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Lisa is DEAF!
Nickr10113
20-06-2006
Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!
MegaMoo
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!”

Happy now you've got that off your chest?
Touching Cloth
20-06-2006
I'll dig your garden?
uncle monty
20-06-2006
Seriously, I think you may have a point. I've been wondering if she can't hear properly, because she does seem to screw up her face and say "Youwha?" quite a lot, and sometimes people say things to her and she doesn't answer until they've said it again, or answers with something that doesn't make sense.
jpt
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!”

I doudt very much that she is deaf as she can hear but she could well be hard of hearing as I am. But that is not why she acts like she does.
Nickr10113
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by jpt:
“I doudt very much that she is deaf as she can hear but she could well be hard of hearing as I am. But that is not why she acts like she does.”

Fair point but she seems to be in denial about being hard of hearing.
McV
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!”

She's not deaf, but hard of hearing. It does explain why she can be a bit paranoid sometimes, that she can't hear some things so she allows her imagination to run wild.

And of course that's why she is so loud.
jpt
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Fair point but she seems to be in denial about being hard of hearing.”

A lot of people are in denial about hearing loss especially the young.

I read some time ago on the RNID site that it is the greatest untreated ailment/disability around today. There is still a stigma attached to it as it is seen as something that happens as you get older and frailer.
hitchins
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!”

That's deafist!!!!!
McV
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by jpt:
“A lot of people are in denial about hearing loss especially the young.

I read some time ago on the RNID site that it is the greatest untreated ailment/disability around today. There is still a stigma attached to it as it is seen as something that happens as you get older and frailer.”

I don't agree. It's older people who tend to be in denial. Young people who lose their hearing (mostly due to personal stereos, music concerts, etc.) tend not to realise that they are going deaf. They think deafness means total deafness when in reality there is a wide range of deafness.

EDITED: I'd also like to point out that total deafness is pretty much a rarity, even for people who were born deaf.
jpt
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by mcvillain:
“She's not deaf, but hard of hearing. It does explain why she can be a bit paranoid sometimes, that she can't hear some things so she allows her imagination to run wild.

And of course that's why she is so loud.”

Exactlly, especially if she has a paranoid character trait anyway, she hears bits of a convo and adds the rest in herself.
Nickr10113
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by jpt:
“A lot of people are in denial about hearing loss especially the young.

I read some time ago on the RNID site that it is the greatest untreated ailment/disability around today. There is still a stigma attached to it as it is seen as something that happens as you get older and frailer.”

Thats interesting. There could actually be a whole load of people who might vote for her.

Seriously though the programme could even do her a favour by teaching her to get a, I said, to get, to get a hearing aid, thats right, Hearing aid!
McV
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by jpt:
“Exactlly, especially if she has a paranoid character trait anyway, she hears bits of a convo and adds the rest in herself.”

I agree. Ooh, is this the beginning of a lovefest? I so need one!
quizbuff2000
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Thats why she SHOUTS! Thats why she is always in peoples FACES. She cant keep up that s why shes so AGGRESSIVE! It doesnt excuse her ****ing language! Or stupidity!”

DO WHAT???
jpt
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by mcvillain:
“I agree. Ooh, is this the beginning of a lovefest? I so need one! ”





An extract from one ladys story found here http://www.rnid.org.uk/information_r...hael_tighe.htm

Depending on the extent of and the timing of a hearing loss, combined with how socially active a person is, the loss of your hearing will severely test your psychological well-being. It is a major crisis - you do not overcome it or recover quickly.

My problem came about very slowly when I was young. I did not know I had a problem. I had no reason to believe it was abnormal not to hear words in songs or people whispering - surely everybody mishears. I just got on with playing games and sports.

But I could not ignore the situation forever. Gradually I accepted it was not normal to mix up sounds, to be confused, to be slow to cop on. I kept this knowledge to myself, pretended to hear, laughed and smiled. Looking back, I cannot understand how I was so calm and accepting. I was young and simply got on with things. I was only mildly deaf and had no real day to day problems.

By my mid-teens I was having lots of problems with spoken languages in school. I had trouble at the family table, it was hard to keep up with conversations when drinking with friends, I kept saying "Wha". I ignored the situation, I watched a lot of TV. I was in denial. My family were even more so. When I did eventually say something to my doctor he ignored me. I was alone. It was three years after first speaking to my doctor before he arranged a hearing test. (They were different times.)

At some stage you have to acknowledge the problem, to share the burden, admit you can't cope and look for help. This is easier for some than others.

Confidence can be shattered and needs to be built up.
LittleTinker
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by Nickr10113:
“Fair point but she seems to be in denial about being hard of hearing.”


Shes not in denial. She said she was hard of hearing on her video on launch night.
Nickr10113
20-06-2006
So well done again to the programme makers - why not put in someone with an underdiagnosed condition with resulting paranoid tendencies to disgrace herself and make herself unemployable after numerous psychological tests that could have avoided it and actually just told her to go out and buy a hearing aid...
Nickr10113
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by LittleTinker:
“Shes not in denial. She said she was hard of hearing on her video on launch night.”

Would you say being 'in denial' might includes doing nothing about it at all...?
jpt
20-06-2006
Originally Posted by LittleTinker:
“Shes not in denial. She said she was hard of hearing on her video on launch night.”

Thank you I missed that bit.

At least she admits it which is the first step she now needs to get her hearing tested, if she hasn't already, and then be issued with some of those *^&%$}* hearing aids. They are wonders of modern technology which make life a lot easier but they are uncomftable and not as good as the manafacturers say they are.
bobbly1
20-06-2006
She also said to Suzie when she came in something along the lines of "You'll have to excuse me if I ignore you sometimes, I'ts not cos I'm being rude, but I can't hear well"
fi~
20-06-2006
if shes deaf then she should get a hearing aid
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