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Old 06-07-2006, 11:18
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Hey,
Ive been a rock lover since i was born and as we crossfaded into 98 and 2002, rap dominated earth, then 2003, slowly into 2005 it died, now there are wannabes, and now RNB rules earth, but all we need now is a band that has attitude, style and catchy tunes all on just one album, if we get that, then rock will slowly be reviving,

what do you think should happen for rock to come back to number 1???
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:20
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Do you have some definition of rock that doesn't include any of the currently massive rock bands? Foo Fighters just played their biggest ever gig in Hyde Park - don't they count?
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Inkblot
Do you have some definition of rock that doesn't include any of the currently massive rock bands? Foo Fighters just played their biggest ever gig in Hyde Park - don't they count?

by revival i mean them coming number one in charts and beating the llikes of rihanna etc
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Guns2006
and now RNB rules earth,
But not RNB as we know it. At least they could have though of something original to call the genre and leave us true R&B fans alone
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:35
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Originally Posted by Inkblot
Do you have some definition of rock that doesn't include any of the currently massive rock bands? Foo Fighters just played their biggest ever gig in Hyde Park - don't they count?
so what?
remember times in 1990, when guns n roses and nirvana ruled earth, press were all over them etc
we need that bacK!
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:37
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Originally Posted by Guns2006
by revival i mean them coming number one in charts and beating the llikes of rihanna etc
But 85,000 people paying £35 to see them live* is pretty impressive. They don't need a number one to be popular, do they?

* and that was just one of the UK gigs - they've sold out quite a few in the past year.
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Old 06-07-2006, 11:44
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Originally Posted by Inkblot
But 85,000 people paying £35 to see them live* is pretty impressive. They don't need a number one to be popular, do they?

* and that was just one of the UK gigs - they've sold out quite a few in the past year.

good point, but guns n roses have had a sold out tour, download festival was sold out but there is something missing, we need a band that can stomp all over the other genres.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:47
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HipHop and RnB dominate the singles chart and radio but rock and indie dominate the album charts and live events.

The rock scene is actually quite healthy with a steady flow of indie bands coming and going, thing is there is actually a big increase in "easy listening" music like Keane, Nora Jones, Dido and Embrace - they are the big money earners now.
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Old 06-07-2006, 12:51
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I sort of agree.... think there needs to be a genre revival, as grunge was to the early 90's.

imho
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Old 06-07-2006, 13:13
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Surely the charts are irrelevant nowadays! If rock bands can sell out their concerts and there are loads of dedicated fans, that would be enough.
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Old 06-07-2006, 14:26
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Originally Posted by Guns2006
so what?
remember times in 1990, when guns n roses and nirvana ruled earth, press were all over them etc
we need that bacK!
Guns n Roses, Metallica & Nirvana did all rule the early 1990's but even in those days they weren't getting number ones in the UK singles chart.

I think the singles chart has no meaning these days, i'm much more interested in how an Album does & how many people go to see a gig. I think those are true indicators of a bands success in 2006.
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Old 06-07-2006, 16:58
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Originally Posted by madpixie2
Guns n Roses, Metallica & Nirvana did all rule the early 1990's but even in those days they weren't getting number ones in the UK singles chart.

I think the singles chart has no meaning these days, i'm much more interested in how an Album does & how many people go to see a gig. I think those are true indicators of a bands success in 2006.
I agree, singles chart is just a measure of pop music marketing, nothing to do with music. Concerts are the only way to measure an artists popularity...
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Old 06-07-2006, 23:06
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For some of us, rock never went away!!

Rock has many, many different faces. Foo Fighters have had a mention here, but how about Muse, U2 or Radiohead?

Rock/punk hybrids have been doing great business with bands like Green Day, we've had Rock/rap with the likes of Limp Bizkit, rock/reggae with Skindred, rock/r'n'b with Christina Aguilera, rock/pop with Busted and McFly...........
Indie rock has been a huge thing for the past couple of years with the dozens of 'The' bands like The Kaiser Chiefs, Arctic Monkeys and those without a 'The' like Franz Ferdinand and Kasabian.

Admittedly, most of them sit firmly on the 'rock lite' side of the fence. But if you're talking about the real heavy stuff formerly produced by bands like say, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Motorhead et al - that's never been mainstream and is never likely to top the charts.

Serious rock buyers tend not to run out on a Monday morning to buy a single by the latest teeny idol in order to impress their mates!!
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Old 06-07-2006, 23:12
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will britpop ever come back????????

god i hope so
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Old 06-07-2006, 23:36
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Revive from what? As far as i'm concerened Rock has been the most dominant music genre of the last 20 years.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:01
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Yep. Its just that the charts mean nothing anymore. Theres no revival needed to be honest. The best music these days comes from proper bands who write and play their own songs and have the balls to play them live in front of 80,000 fans.

The likes of Motorhead can still provide a better live experience than most of the newer pop acts today. Go figure.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:22
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Since about 2001 there seems to have been a revival of the mid to late 80s bands that I used to go see when I was at school. In the past four years I've seen Whitesnake three times, Iron Maiden twice, Y&T twice, Motorhead and Girlschool, Judas Priest and Scorpions, Deep Purple, Gary Moore, Dio, Saxon, and George Thorogood. I've got tickets for Maiden in December, Y&T in October, and (maybe) Whitesnake again next month. And The Darkness, who don't really count because they weren't around in the eighties. But I don't think I'd seen any of the others throughout the whole of the nineties, a whole decade of non-rock, that's returned with a vengeance.

No, they're not going to seriously dent the pop charts, but then did they ever? The odd Bon Jovi song might have got near the top, Maiden got to number one with their worst single ever in the early nineties, The Darkness got to number two with their Christmas single three or four years ago. There was a time during 1986-87 when Whitesnake released Here I Go Again and Is This Love, Def Leppard released Pour Some Sugar On Me, Kiss released Crazy Crazy Nights, Bon Jovi released You Give Love A Bad Name and Living On A Prayer, Europe released The Final Countdown, and even artists like Alice Cooper, Motley Crue and Poison were selling massive numbers of singles, and they all got in the top ten. But you really need to look back to the early seventies for a time when real rock music regularly topped the charts, songs like All Right Now, Paranoid, Black Night, Don't Fear The Reaper, Born To Be Wild, all the stuff that now appears on the annual compilation "Now That's What I Call Rock" album.
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Old 07-07-2006, 11:25
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Lostprophets new album went straight in at number 1.
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Old 07-07-2006, 16:19
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To be honest, I think that in a lot of rock bands' opinions they couldn't care less if they scored a number one, some just do it for the sheer love of it, I read somewhere that Slash is so devoted to his music that when he was with GN'R he was seriously ill in hospital but checked himself out to do a concert. I'm sure I got that bit right. I hope I did!

In short I think that Rock doesn't need reviving, as long as our favourite musicians are making their fans happy I don't think they really care if they get to the number 1 spot.

For example, VR sold out all of their gigs I believe and have done really well with their record sales but did not have a number 1, certainly not here, but I will continue to buy their albums and go to their concerts in support of them, the problem is that nowadays in my honest opinion, true rock just doesn't get to number one, this isn't a comparison really but do we think that if now a band as great as pink floyd released a single, that it would get to number one? I don't, because most of the people buying singles are kids or people who don't really like true rock music, so instead r'n'b etc top the charts...

I am not against any other genre of music at all, but it seems that many great rock bands are getting overlooked.

I have noticed that you will even see Eminem played a lot on a certain rock channel but hardly any VR etc, maybe they will play November Rain or Sweet Child O'Mine by GN'R, but that's a rarity.

I know it's pretty long winded but it is quite close to my heart really, but i think that if rock was played more, well if certain rock bands had more airplay then this question would never really need to be asked!
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Old 07-07-2006, 18:11
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Actually I think Rock is easily the biggest genre at the moment, and at its healthiest peak since the early 90s. Dance has been and gone, RnB has faded a lot since 2001, Rock is the biggest genre at the moment, Kaisers, Kooks, U2, Phonics, Zutons etc. these are the biggest acts in the country at the moment.

So I don't see your point, sorry.
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Old 07-07-2006, 20:18
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sad to say this but selling out shows doesnt mean as much now, what with seemingly every man and his dog buying extra tickets to flog on for potential profit on ebay for any large show.
Rock has never gone away, its more how its viewed by the record companies and the media, and at the moment the record companies arent interested in signing bands doing anything different so the chances of another band doing a Nirvana are pretty small, in the meantime we're lumbered with the likes of Lost Prophets who,imo arent particularly good,just been well promoted and were lucky to get a deal with Q Prime (same managers as Metallica) to boost their career in the USA.
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Old 07-07-2006, 21:04
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ok maybe selling out shows dont mean so much but as long as it keeps my fav bands going i'm cool with that!
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