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Old 10-07-2006, 02:12
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went into a shop the other day, they had a discount display section, with the sign "Half Price (Expired)"

it was all packaged foodstuffs (tins, boxes/bags of crisps & snacks, salt, etc), that were past their sell by date. (I looked at one & it was stamped with an expiry date of June 2005!)

basically they are trying to flog old stock rather than lose money over them going to waste

i always thought that it was illegal to sell foodstuffs that were past their expiry date?
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:15
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It is 100% Illegal
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:15
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I don't think it's illegal if people know it is expired, i.e A sign is in place
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:20
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Originally Posted by ScottishWoody
It is 100% Illegal
I think it is illegal if say's use by, but not best before. Quite often you will find shops of the corner shop status knocking out these goods.
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:22
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Originally Posted by Ovalteenie
went into a shop the other day, they had a discount display section, with the sign "Half Price (Expired)"

it was all packaged foodstuffs (tins, boxes/bags of crisps & snacks, salt, etc), that were past their sell by date. (I looked at one & it was stamped with an expiry date of June 2005!)

basically they are trying to flog old stock rather than lose money over them going to waste

i always thought that it was illegal to sell foodstuffs that were past their expiry date?
I think there is a limit.

For example one shop beside me was selling cat food almost 11months out of date also they were selling Pilchards in cans over 2 years out of date so i confronted them about it asking them to remove them from the shelves but they declined.

So i called the Enviromental standards place whatever its called and they were cautioned for selling things so out of date so i dont think its 100% legal.
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:55
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IIRC it is a 14 day period after the expiry date. That was certainly what we used to work to for selling off ood stock.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:10
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No, It's the shops responsibility after the sell by date, they will be the ones that will be prosecuted or the people you could sue.

I know this because I complained about food that was bad and was deliberately being sold past the sell by date before. It's ok to sell, but if the food is bad or makes anyone ill it's no longer the manufacturers responsibility.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:14
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The thing is, a lot of common items with "Best Before" (not "Use By") dates can be eaten for months after. Take tinned food for example - how can any sort of bacteria get in to spoil it?

Another one is chocolate. In the past couple of weeks, I've eaten a few bars that were best before the end of February and nothing bad has happened or will happen *touches wood*.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:18
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Originally Posted by dundee_mark
The thing is, a lot of common items with "Best Before" (not "Use By") dates can be eaten for months after. Take tinned food for example - how can any sort of bacteria get in to spoil it?

Another one is chocolate. In the past couple of weeks, I've eaten a few bars that were best before the end of February and nothing bad has happened or will happen *touches wood*.
Food can very slowly react with the metal of the can and even rust! but you can usually exceed the use by date by a long time.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:21
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Originally Posted by James Clayton
Food can very slowly react with the metal of the can and even rust! but you can usually exceed the use by date by a long time.
Most (if not all) "tin" cans in this country are now made from aluminum, which doesn't rust.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:28
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Salt still reacts and corrodes aluminium. Most canned food contains salt. I said 'or even rust' as I know some food is still in steel cans.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:48
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Well, supermarkets are legally barred from supplying out-of-date food to homeless people, so I would guess that it is very definately illegal.
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Old 10-07-2006, 03:49
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I think it's the supermarkets own rules, because if they did make anybody ill they are open to legal action and bad publicity.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:28
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Originally Posted by ScottishWoody
It is 100% Illegal
No it isn't.

It is illegal to sell products past a use by date. Products can be sold beyond a best before date as long as it is fit for human consumption - which puts the responsibility on the retailer.
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Old 10-07-2006, 18:15
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My parents have owned/run a shop for 20 years, you cannot sell anything past it's Use By Date, that is Illegal and shopkeepers have been prosecuted for doing this.

Selling goods past there best before date is ok as long as it is non perishable e.g. crisps, biscuits, chocolate, pop etc

There is a very fine line though and in the end it comes down to the retailer to make the decision.


There was a case in my home town of a corner shopkeeper who was prosecuted for selling pre-packaged meats that were 6 months out of date. uuurrrggghh!!!!
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Old 10-07-2006, 18:18
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Tesco often sell expired meat/chilled products, I went to the one in Chadwell Heath a few weeks back and they had sausages and prawns that were 3 days out of date.
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Old 10-07-2006, 18:20
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Originally Posted by Stobart Stopper
Tesco often sell expired meat/chilled products, I went to the one in Chadwell Heath a few weeks back and they had sausages and prawns that were 3 days out of date.
That is very, very Naughty
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Old 10-07-2006, 19:08
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'Use by' date

'Use by' is used on highly perishable foods which, if they are not stored correctly and used by the date indicated, could pose an imminent risk to health.
Examples being Pate, dairy products, fish and poultry.

The term 'use by' is a clear instruction to you the trader, that the food has to be sold by the date given on the label. Even if reduced in price, it must be removed from sale when the 'use by' date has expired.

Remember:
It is illegal for any retailer to sell or have on offer for sale (i.e. still on display) any food after its use by date. The maximum fine per item is 5000.

It is illegal to remove or alter a 'use by' date without express written permission from the person responsible for marking the food.



'Best before' date

'Best before' dates are marked on most other foods together with specific storage instructions to enable the food to retain its original properties.
Examples being: Frozen Foods, Tinned Foods, Bread and Cereals.

As opposed to 'use by' dates, food marked with 'best - before' dates can be sold past its durability indication (NOTE: see Eggs below). This is because such foods would not pose an imminent risk to health. Also, the quality of the food would normally retain a high level for some time after the expiry date.

As such, it is not uncommon to find traders selling food past its 'best - before' date at a reduced price. However, this should be done with care, because if food is sold to the purchaser that is not of the quality demanded, (i.e. a long way past the 'best before' date and has become stale) then the trader could find himself being prosecuted under the Food Safety Act 1990 rather than the Food Labelling Regulations 1996.
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Old 10-07-2006, 19:38
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Originally Posted by Stobart Stopper
Tesco often sell expired meat/chilled products, I went to the one in Chadwell Heath a few weeks back and they had sausages and prawns that were 3 days out of date.
Past which date? Many supermarket chilled products have a display until date which will be based on their own policy of acceptable shelf-lives for customers (like D+3 or D+5). It is entirely up to the retailer's own policy what they do with stock between this date and the use-by date.

If they are selling products past the use by date they are breaking the law and you should contact the local environmental health department at the council.
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Old 10-07-2006, 20:14
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Mmmm.. expired food.
My corner shop always used to sell chocolate bars which were past the best before/expiry for only 5p..

And they were pretty decent bars! ie. Dairy Milk, Cadbury Creme Egg, Rolo's etc.

Never harmed me, nor did they taste any different
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Old 10-07-2006, 22:25
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I eat plenty of food which is past its 'use by date'.. i'm still here (), some of this food has even been meat

As far as I was aware from working in a shop which sold food, if we had out of date stock on the shelves, we could automatically be fined 1000.. not sure how true this is but hey, I didnt care it was free food at the end of every shift for me
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Old 10-07-2006, 22:30
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When I worked at Tesco they used to sell off a lot of expired stuff really cheaply in the staff shop.
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Old 10-07-2006, 22:31
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Originally Posted by Glen
No it isn't.

It is illegal to sell products past a use by date. Products can be sold beyond a best before date as long as it is fit for human consumption - which puts the responsibility on the retailer.
OK but i work in Sainsburys and i know that we are not allowed to sell ANYTHING past its 'Sell By' date!!!

It says 'Sell By ...' for a reason
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Old 10-07-2006, 22:45
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isnt that why the supermarkets sell their about-to-expire sandwiches really cheap in the evenings? because they have to get rid of them?

thats why i tend to do my shopping in the evenings, see if i can pick up some bargain snacks for later

also a friend who used to work for M&S ages ago said that the staff got given any unsold day-of-expiry sandwiches to take home with them
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Old 10-07-2006, 22:47
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Yeah, the local Tesco sells sarnies off for 5p each, I had the large cooked chickens for 40 - 60p, each had fresh joints of pork and lamb for 20p/kg!
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