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homechoice in computer active
johnnyrocker
25-07-2006
gets good boy bad boy publicity, under an article regarding 'limit household gadgets' regarding always on power draining devices there is a nice picture of an hc box and remote, indicating it to be one of the culprits, further on in the magazine on page 56 there is an article on video on demand etc with a picture of the same 'villan' stb and it goes on to explain the differences between suppliers but chose to use telewest menu for description, also moots a point re a sky takeover of homechoice.
Peter We
30-07-2006
Got a web Link ?
marcouk76
30-07-2006
Originally Posted by johnnyrocker:
“gets good boy bad boy publicity, under an article regarding 'limit household gadgets' regarding always on power draining devices there is a nice picture of an hc box and remote, indicating it to be one of the culprits, further on in the magazine on page 56 there is an article on video on demand etc with a picture of the same 'villan' stb and it goes on to explain the differences between suppliers but chose to use telewest menu for description, also moots a point re a sky takeover of homechoice.”

What? as in it uses up lots of electricity??? Is that why my electricity bill has gone so high lately?!??!??!?
johnnyrocker
30-07-2006
sorry no web link it is in the magazine dated august 2006
DrinkingBuddy
31-07-2006
Originally Posted by marcouk76:
“What? as in it uses up lots of electricity??? Is that why my electricity bill has gone so high lately?!??!??!? ”

I think you'll find your bill has gone up because the Electricty (and Gas) companies are thieving gits. Everyone's bill has gone up considerably this year.
Peter We
31-07-2006
I plugged in a power meter. The STB uses 8w while on standby/adsl use. 9w when you watch TV.
nobbynolan
17-08-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“I plugged in a power meter. The STB uses 8w while on standby/adsl use. 9w when you watch TV.”

over how long a period? A second/minute/hour.
Peter We
17-08-2006
8 watts is its consumption per second, by definition.

Over 24hours thats 0.72 KWHr
johnnyrocker
17-08-2006
sounds like might be spensive?
M_at
18-08-2006
1KWHr = 1 unit.

1 Units is 7 - 10p

£30 ish a year.
TheNinjaPirate
18-08-2006
IIRC that would require about 1 tree to be planted to offset the emissions it makes. It does seem to get unnecessarily hot when in standby to be honest. What is it up to?
Peter We
18-08-2006
Obviously pretty much the same as when its not in standby.

I'm measuring my Router (Linksys wrt54G). Thats using 7w. My shuttle PC uses 4W when its switched off as well.
Heck, I think a timer to switch it off at night would be an idea.
TheNinjaPirate
18-08-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“My shuttle PC uses 4W when its switched off as well.”

Blimey!

Wheres that going then???
Peter We
18-08-2006
Don't know, but the USB keeps going so the PSU must be on. Power on Lan I suppose.
KarlJ
19-08-2006
Quote:
“8 watts is its consumption per second, by definition.

Over 24hours thats 0.72 KWHr”

wha? watts are not measured in seconds at all, a watt has nothing at all to do with a second. A watt is a measurment of power and time does not come into it. KWHr however is a way of describing how many Kilowatts Per Hour.

For example if you left a 1KW heating element on an electric fire switched on for 1 hour it would use 1KWHr

At 8W a product uses 0.192 KWHr's per day. At 10p per KWHr that equates to under 2p per day. It is £7 a year.
sjb92
19-08-2006
Originally Posted by KarlJ:
“wha? watts are not measured in seconds at all, a watt has nothing at all to do with a second. A watt is a measurment of power and time does not come into it.”

One watt is one joule (the SI unit of energy) per second.

But it is fairly meaningless without knowing the kWh, as that's what we're billed in.
Last edited by sjb92 : 19-08-2006 at 22:20
TheNinjaPirate
20-08-2006
Originally Posted by Peter We:
“Don't know, but the USB keeps going so the PSU must be on. Power on Lan I suppose.”

Hadn't considered the power implications of Wake-On-LAN. How many people actually use the function and how many PC's are equipped with it? Can you disable the WOL function?
troublegum
20-08-2006
Originally Posted by TheNinjaPirate:
“Hadn't considered the power implications of Wake-On-LAN. How many people actually use the function and how many PC's are equipped with it? Can you disable the WOL function?”

most PCs that have the LAN port built into the motherboard should be capable of it.. which is the majority of modern PCs.

Both my desktop machines have it and I use it occasionally and it is quite handy... like when I am on my laptop in the livingroom and I need to access a file on one of the desktops. Rather than going upstairs to switch it on I just use Wake-on-Lan. It's just lazyness I suppose.

It can be disabled in the BIOS although it is usually called something like "Allow PCI power on"
M_at
21-08-2006
The reason the modern PC consumes electricity while off is not just WOL but the ATX power system.

The motherboard now controls the power - to request a power up from the PSU it needs a trickle of electricity. You PSU is not 100% efficient so will use some of the electricity in providing this trickle.

If you want a computer that really powers off - buy one with an isolating switch on the rear - power off as normal then flick this switch.
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