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Oasis - Stop The Clocks
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performingmonk
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by WatfordKev:
“I have read they are re-recording 'Acquiesce'. When Noel was on Russell Brand 's show on radio6 last week he said they (Oasis) were 'more or less forced' (I think that's a direct quote) into doing a greatest hits. I thought they were meant to have a bit of attitude about them?”

What it is, Sony are releasing it and there's nothing Noel or anyone could do. The band could have had no involvement at all if they'd wanted, but obviously they decided to do as they chose the tracklist and are re-recording Acquiesce. This was always going to happen because their contract with Sony is over (and they won't re-sign with them because Noel is pissed off with them).

A similar thing will happen with Radiohead if they don't re-sign with EMI. EMI will put out a 'best of' and Radiohead won't be able to stop it.
living proof
18-09-2006
Little by little is a glaring omission.
BeatleGod
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by performingmonk:
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A similar thing will happen with Radiohead if they don't re-sign with EMI. EMI will put out a 'best of' and Radiohead won't be able to stop it.”

Surely EMI aren't that stupid......not saying that Radiohead are rubbish, on the contrary, they are amongst the very best, but a "greatest hits" collection is so wrong for a band that is so dedicated in making each album an experience.

Would be a disaster if they started mixing together "Pablo Honey" with "Kid A" tracks....its just wrong. Thom Yorke would be turning in his grave if he were dead.
Tiffani
18-09-2006
They could have done a new live cd of all their greatest hits instead.
coxy0211
18-09-2006
I don't think the record company would have accepted that. Live CDs do not usually sell anywhere near as many copies as Best of CDs - especially in the run up to Christmas.
WatfordKev
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by BeatleGod:
“...I got bored of Oasis when i discovered real bands.”

Such as who? (Genuinely interested)
Tiffani
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by coxy0211:
“I don't think the record company would have accepted that. Live CDs do not usually sell anywhere near as many copies as Best of CDs - especially in the run up to Christmas.”

Double disc cd, one disc greatest hits, other live cd or live concert dvd.
Not2Good
18-09-2006
Great! Another collection of overplayed/outdated oasis songs....

Sorry but this is just another oasis cash in...shame because 10 years ago, they'd never have pulled a stunt like this..
aaronon
18-09-2006
oh my god...not2good get your facts right before bothering to type.

Sony's contract finished...Oasis didn't want to resign...Sony forced a greatest hits with or without Oasis' imput...so Oasis get invovled.
Not2Good
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by ntl:rocks:
“oh my god...not2good get your facts right before bothering to type.

Sony's contract finished...Oasis didn't want to resign...Sony forced a greatest hits with or without Oasis' imput...so Oasis get invovled.”

And what all the promotional work oasis are doing selling their album to the kids etc is going without pay ??

Like i said...another oasis cash in..

Everyone has already heard these tracks a million times already...
BeatleGod
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by WatfordKev:
“Such as who? (Genuinely interested)”

Basically Oasis' influences and from the 60s/70s etc, like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, the Who, Cream, Velvet Underground, Hendrix Experience, Doors, Stones....to "newer" stuff like REM and Radiohead.

The Beatles did the Red and the Blue album which were two double sets packed with quality.....Oasis struggle to do a "best of" compilation on one disc.......and that was 7 years worth of recording Vs 12 years of Oasis'.....
Have A Nice Day
18-09-2006
You know I always wondered why Oasis didn't release "Little James" as a single....excellant song. They ought to have put the Chemical Brothers ft. Noel Gallegher song on there too- "Setting Sun", ohwell perhaps thats for "The Essential Collection" 2CD album one day.
Have A Nice Day
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by Not2Good:
“And what all the promotional work oasis are doing selling their album to the kids etc is going without pay ??

Like i said...another oasis cash in..

Everyone has already heard these tracks a million times already...”

Greatest Hits and "Best of"..collections are released all the time so whats so different about Oasis cashing in aswell? (Eventhough yes they said they would never do it, but so what).
Arcas
18-09-2006
Originally Posted by Bextor:
“...Oasis...If you could choose the 18 songs on their greatest hits album what would they be?”

18 tracks by Blur I suppose.
MiH
18-09-2006
As an Oasis fan I have to say this - this is by far the most pathetic excuse for a 'greatest hits' I've ever seen. It's just wrong on every level. performingmonk was absolutely spot on in his assessment of what should and shouldn't have been included, why couldn't he do the track listing instead?!

Dire.
performingmonk
18-09-2006
I wish I WAS doing the tracklist! They should have picked 5 or 6 definite tracks that were never going to be left off e.g. Don't Look Back In Anger, Wonderwall, Live Forever, Some Might Say, re-recorded Acquiesce, Rock n Roll Star. Then they should have asked the fans to choose what they saw as they're favourite 12 Oasis tunes (apart from those), then that should have been the album. Taking everything into consideration, this is what I would have liked -

1. Rock n Roll Star
2. Some Might Say
3. Don't Look Back In Anger
4. Lyla
5. Acquiesce
6. Stand By Me
7. Supersonic
8. Wonderwall
9. Stop Crying Your Heart Out
10. Roll With It
11. Go Let It Out
12. Slide Away
13. The Importance Of Being A Right Bastard
14. The Hindu Times
15. Live Forever
16. Gas Panic (live)
17. Whatever
18 Champagne Supernova

That's better than the official list. Fact. Sure, it may not be perfect, and obviously people have their own favourite songs, but it's still better than Noel's selection. There's too many Noel-sung numbers on the official list. There's no need for his three acoustic b-sides AT ALL.
aaronon
19-09-2006
this is not Oasis' actual Best Of C.D. At the end of the band, they will release one that includes all the songs we know and love.

Part of me actually thinks, the track listing intentionally missed out certain tracks so that when the time is nearer they will release a Best Of, that they actually put alot of effort into.
Not2Good
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by BeatleGod:
“Basically Oasis' influences and from the 60s/70s etc, like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, the Who, Cream, Velvet Underground, Hendrix Experience, Doors, Stones....to "newer" stuff like REM and Radiohead.

The Beatles did the Red and the Blue album which were two double sets packed with quality.....Oasis struggle to do a "best of" compilation on one disc.......and that was 7 years worth of recording Vs 12 years of Oasis'.....”

Every band has its influences...

See the thing that has been oasis biggest downfall has been the beatles comparisons, not helped by noel and liam comparing them to them themselves. I will never take away the fact from oasis that "Definetly Maybe" and "Whats The Story Morning Glory" were fantastic records in their time...But it annoys me that oasis since then have released i think 4 bad albums and a bunch of greatest hits/b-sides records for us all to remember the good old days...

How about actually making a record ?? Oasis have been lazy the past 5-7 years, and milking the sucess and fame that came with the band.... See thats the HUGE difference between the beatles and oasis, the beatles actually bothered to do the thing they did best, even after they got hugely rich, and that was make good records. Oasis are too busy swanning about arguing, declaring their ever fading "greatest rock and roll band ever" title, to ever become anywhere near as good a band as the beatles.
Last edited by Not2Good : 19-09-2006 at 01:10
BeatleGod
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by Have A Nice Day:
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They ought to have put the Chemical Brothers ft. Noel Gallegher song on there too- "Setting Sun", ohwell perhaps thats for "The Essential Collection" 2CD album one day.”

Setting Sun was a poor rip off, of "Tomorrow Never Knows" by the Beatles.
BeatleGod
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by Not2Good:
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How about actually making a record ?? Oasis have been lazy the past 5-7 years, and milking the sucess and fame that came with the band.... See thats the HUGE difference between the beatles and oasis, the beatles actually bothered to do the thing they did best, even after they got hugely rich, and that was make good records. Oasis are too busy swanning about arguing, declaring their ever fading "greatest rock and roll band ever" title, to ever become anywhere near as good a band as the beatles.”

Yea. The Beatles improved and evolved with every record. They released far more material than Oasis, and in a far shorter space of time, and ultimately far superior material. You get no variety with Oasis, where as the Beatles invented variety.
Have A Nice Day
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by BeatleGod:
“Setting Sun was a poor rip off, of "Tomorrow Never Knows" by the Beatles.”

Lol okay, but but we all know how heavily influence Oasis are by the Beatles.
coxy0211
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by Not2Good:
“Great! Another collection of overplayed/outdated oasis songs....

Sorry but this is just another oasis cash in...shame because 10 years ago, they'd never have pulled a stunt like this..”

What do you mean another collection?

Oasis haven't released a best of collection before. And of course they wouldn't have "pulled this stunt" 10 years ago - they only had 2 albums out 10 years ago, hardly enough for a best of!
Not2Good
19-09-2006
Originally Posted by coxy0211:
“What do you mean another collection?

Oasis haven't released a best of collection before. And of course they wouldn't have "pulled this stunt" 10 years ago - they only had 2 albums out 10 years ago, hardly enough for a best of!”

Well i reckon 'the masterplan' is a good example of oasis cashing in on OLD songs... And not forgetting their awful live LP, 'familiar to millions'...more OLD song cashing in...the weird thing is the fans go and buy them, even though they have the box set of singles with all the b-sides, which was also yet another cash in...

I think you know what i mean by 'another collection' now... Not saying they have released a greatest hits LP before, i know they haven't...and what i meant by pull this stunt is, the awful idea of getting themselves involved in a blatant cash in, they wouldn't have done that 10 years ago, it was all about making good music, the gallaghers don't want the album released YET instead of taking some sort of stand against it by not promoting it, they have, and are inevitably cashing in...

Oasis isn't a band anymore, its a business...What kind of band keeps themselves out of the studio all the time anyway ?? Bet your looking forward to 2009 or whenever it is oasis decide they need to make some more money, and release yet another bad record.

Oh and when 'familiar to millions' was released, noel was asked why they were releasing a live album, the answer, "we have just been hit with a large tax bill, so we need to sell some records".....ahh now thats what music is all about eh ?
Last edited by Not2Good : 19-09-2006 at 20:02
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