Hi Guys 'n' Gals

Trying out a GX-210 (temporarily "rented" from Argos ) but just encountered a problem.

I'm trying to archive the Science Department's video collection onto DVD ready for September. I've had several problems with my Panasonic DMR-ES10 in producing discs that any DVD player can read and am thus trying out the SONY.

Anyway . . .

I've just transferred 6 x 20 min videos to the Sony. The last recording took the time to 2hrs (i.e a full disc). The Sony then "lost" this final recording completely

Pressing the "Title List" button, it showed only 5 titles recorded and a blank space where the final recording should have been.

I then decided to finalize the disc - so that at least I'd got 1hr 40 min of video archived.

After apparently "successfully" finalizing the disc however the Sony then reported that there was over 2hrs of recording space on the disc

After ejecting the disc and putting it back in, the Sony then took ages to "Load" finally reporting that the disc was "unreadable" (or some such message).

I put this "finalized" disc into the Panny and it happily reads and plays the disc. WTF is going on?

Anyone else had this "problem" with a fully recorded disc on the GX-210?

Zaph

PS As an aside, I'm not convinced that any manufacturer has got DVD recording fully sussed - unless you know different that is
Last edited by Zaphod_B : 30-07-2006 at 20:30

welcome to the cr@p world of digital recording. DON'T get me started!

Oh boy, you can say that again!!!

Why, oh why, is the DVD-recording situation so confusing and so riddled with incompatabilities?

I've had 2x Panasonic DMR-ES10's for over a year now and find that as long as I record and play back using a Panny, everything is peachy. Try and play a finalized disc on another manufacturer's machine, like my Sony DVP-NS700 or my laptop DVD drive and no joy! Doesn't matter which ES10 I use - same result (which makes me think it is the way the Panny records the data). Put the DVD into my desktop DVD drive, no problem!

Like you said, "Grrrrr!"

I just wanted to know if others had experienced the full disc becoming "unreadable" in the Sony GX-210?

Anyway,
Oh go on, I love a good rant!

Z
Last edited by Zaphod_B : 03-08-2006 at 16:19

On the whole compatibility thing, I've only used my Panny DMRES20D for archiving bits and pieces from my PVR, but the finalised discs (+R) work just fine in my Toshiba player, and a Sony DVD/VHS combi I've tried so far. The only problem I've had is getting one to play in my parent's Proline DVD recorder. I can't help thinking that since the only player to have a problem is a distinctly cheap low-quality one, it's probably more an incompatiblity on the part of the player rather any fault in the Panny.

Yes, however . . .
In the family we have 2x Panasonic DMR-ES10's, 2x Panasonic DVD S27's and 2x Sony DVP-NS700's. It doesn't seem to matter which player/recorder combination I choose - the result is the same. Any Panny will play Panny-recorded -R disks (either finalized or not) but the Sony's won't. I've tried 4 different types of DVD-R disc (unbranded white label x4, Philips x8, Sony x8 and Tesco x8) and it hasn't made the slightest difference. If I copy the -R discs on my desktop pc using either DVD X-Copy or DVD Shrink to produce a Region 0 DVD-R, the Sony will happily play them (so its not that the Sony won't play -R disks).

I'm really ****ed off about the whole DVD recording thing. They aren't reliable (several failed recordings - see original post this thread) and lots of incompatabilities between manufacturers (not to mention a host of different formats!!).

What I'm really puzzled about is that we spend a load of time discussing it on forums like this and not complaining to the manufacturers about sub-standard products. E.g. don't record a full 2hrs on a 2hr (=SP) disk as the recoding will fail and you won't be able to view/use the recording. WHAT??

Why are we accepting this cr*p from the manufacturers? Anyone with me? [/end rant]

Zaph

I can only speak from experience of my own Panny, which is generally good - I have since found another machine that won't play it's disks, but again its another cheap DVD recorder (in this case a Bush) probably of similar derivation to the Proline, so I'm increasingly convinced it's some failing on the part of certain players rather than the recorder.

The 2hr fault on the Sony does sound completely unnacceptable to me, and grounds for taking the machine back... it's certainly not an issue on the Panasonic, on which I've happilly filled all the disks. I had heard that the 210 wasn't a "true" Sony but a badged model, and I guess it shows here.

I've never had such a problem on my GX210, prehaps the disks your using are dodgy? The only time mine refuses to record is on any of the Discovery owned channels which broadcast a copy protection flag now.