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nikki 4th FAV. to WIN
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The Prince
04-08-2006
Nikkis going to win! Go Nikki!
Pirouette
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by The Prince:
“Nikkis going to win! Go Nikki!”

yes, Go Nikki! Go and present your little E4 series and then go from our screens to make way for your career as tabloid staple and opening of an envelope ceremony fodder
burrogrande
04-08-2006
So...is this an inspired `twist` to help build to the frenzy of the final week, or the last tired thrashings of a dying programme format?

Either way, I get the impression that many fans of the show feel that Endemol are showing a lack of respect for the (not inconsiderable) amount of cash that has been spent on securing evictions by the show`s faithful viewers.

If the public can no longer trust Endemol, will they continue to spend their money in such large quantities?

This latest twist could haunt Endemol if it serves to alienate many of those who otherwise would have continued to pay to vote.
d'@ve
04-08-2006
The people who are betting on Nikki to win are fools.

Her odds at Betfair are all over the place - nobody has a clue, a few people are guessing, that's all.
Last edited by d'@ve : 04-08-2006 at 03:35
mitacond
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by The Prince:
“Nikkis going to win! Go Nikki!”


If an hm has been evicted they cannot win.
Last time a hm went back it was the same. Don't get your hopes up |Niki fans.
Dub.
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by burrogrande:
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This latest twist could haunt Endemol if it serves to alienate many of those who otherwise would have continued to pay to vote.”

True,i've spent a fortune getting certain HMs out.

If any of them were to return i would be livid and never vote again.
Veri
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by redwolfie:
“Well she's not 4th anymore. She's 50/1. You could get 'any other' for 42/1.
So at the moment there is more chance of me winning than Nikki!”

No ....

Those are the odds for any other.

The chances of you in particular winning are far less.
Pirouette
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Veri:
“No ....

Those are the odds for any other.

The chances of you in particular winning are far less.”

*cancels plans to stake house on redwolfie winning*
mitacond
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by bigbrother2006:
“she is forth fav to win omg

from betfair”

She can't win she has already been evicted. She will just come in to m ake up the numbers.
Alrightmate
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by bigbrother2006:
“big brother can change the rules when ever they want. Thats the most important rule.”

I can't believe that it's got the point where people have actually somehow managed to confuse fictional BB rules with actual real laws.

BB aren't the government. BB rules are fictional...they're not real laws.

If BB have to abide by rules that govern everybody else, then they can't just make up their own rules that BB itself has conjured up.

There's fictional BB rules for a TV show...and then there's real laws set up by a governing body that concerns all TV shows and that they have to abide by if public money is concerned.

Even if there is a legal loophole, I'd imagine that they still have to abide by some ethical rules.
Last edited by Alrightmate : 04-08-2006 at 04:29
Agamemnon
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Farcical. If this is true, then Big Brother will have lost its entire point.”

It won't. The point of Big brother is to put a few people in a house and watch how they interact, and take a lot of money from those of us who know what we want.

What most of us want is Nikki back in the house, and I'd vote for her to win as well.
Agamemnon
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I can't believe that it's got the point where people have actually somehow managed to confuse fictional BB rules with actual real laws.

BB aren't the government. BB rules are fictional...they're not real laws.

If BB have to abide by rules that govern everybody else, then they can't just make up their own rules that BB itself has conjured up.

There's fictional BB rules for a TV show...and then there's real rules set up by a governing body that concerns all TV shows and that they have to abide by if public money is concerned.”

Nah. If they ask us to vote to send people back in, and we do, then they're fine.
Alrightmate
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Dub.:
“True,i've spent a fortune getting certain HMs out.

If any of them were to return i would be livid and never vote again. ”

This is the crux of the matter.
When a housemate is voted out of the game, it is like a mutual understanding between the voter and BB that the person they voted for is not eligible to win anymore if they are evicted.

If BB go and intristically break this agreement then I can see big trouble for them.

Mind you, knowing Endemol, if they are legally okay to do this I can imagine some small print of microscopic size hidden away on their website somewhere.

Of course if the returning HM isn't eligible to win, then they can go ahead and return them if they so wish.
Alrightmate
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Agamemnon:
“Nah. If they ask us to vote to send people back in, and we do, then they're fine.”

I'm talking the difference between real laws, and BB rules, concerning the eligibility of the returning housemate to win, not about voting them back in the house to just make up the numbers.
Last edited by Alrightmate : 04-08-2006 at 04:43
Angel Gabriel
04-08-2006
Quote:
“When a housemate is voted out of the game, it is like a mutual understanding between the voter and BB that the person they voted for is not eligible to win anymore if they are evicted.”

Riiight.

BB has the right to change rules at any time.

In the USBB, Amy and Kaysar went back into the house and were both eligible to win. Kinga was also eligible to win after being evicted.

It's your own damn fault if you're stupid enough to waste money voting for this show.
Agamemnon
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I'm talking the difference between real laws, and BB rules, concerning the eligibility of the returning housemate to win, not about voting them back in the house to just make up the numbers.”

You voted to evict Nikki... She went... And now they're giving us a chance to vote her back in... And we will.

Some people voted to evict Bonnie... She went... And now they're giving us a chance to vote her back in... And we won't.

If that person is eligible to win, well, tough shit to those who voted someone out. You did so knowing full well they can do whatever they want later on. And if you're main point was to save another housemate, such as Aisleyne, you got what you wanted anyway.

And now we Nikki fans might just get what we want
Last edited by Agamemnon : 04-08-2006 at 05:31
Voice of Reason
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Angel Gabriel:
“Riiight.

BB has the right to change rules at any time.

In the USBB, Amy and Kaysar went back into the house and were both eligible to win. Kinga was also eligible to win after being evicted.

It's your own damn fault if you're stupid enough to waste money voting for this show.”

BB can change their rules, but they cannot change a signed and legally binding contract. Their contracts state that once they are either evicted by a public vote or leave voluntarily then they are no longer eligible to win (has been discussed by several HMs who actually bothered to read their contracts first).

So, the only evictee from this year that would be eligible to win under that clause would be Jonathan, and last year Kinga. However, there is also a time limit before the end where HMs can be added and be eligible to win (also discussed by some of the HMs) which I think Aisleyne said was 3 or 4 weeks this year (2 in previous years).

USBB is a different program altogether, and the public do not vote for HMs to be evicted, their fellow HMs do.
Last edited by Voice of Reason : 04-08-2006 at 07:11
OlgaChristie
04-08-2006
Check out the story on the News page..........any returning housemate will NOT be eligible to win the prize money
BELSA
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by asantewah87:
“Change the rules not play with my money ”

reckon they've been playing with our money for a long time now, maybe this was planned all along , get them evicted only to put them back in again
Alrightmate
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by OlgaChristie:
“Check out the story on the News page..........any returning housemate will NOT be eligible to win the prize money”

Where?

The DS BB news page?

I can't find anything.
Have you got a link to the page?
Voice of Reason
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Where?

The DS BB news page?

I can't find anything.
Have you got a link to the page?”

I think it's this one.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds10358.html
hanney
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Dub.:
“True,i've spent a fortune getting certain HMs out.

If any of them were to return i would be livid and never vote again. ”

I wonder what you call a fortune? a couple of phone calls? You only have yourself to blame, if you knew it was going to hurt your purse then you should have voted only once. Anyway look on the bright side Niki is going back in and since that is gonna piss you off and stop you voting, at least you won't spend any more money. She wont be eligible to win but at least she will be back in. Great!
hanney
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Agamemnon:
“You voted to evict Nikki... She went... And now they're giving us a chance to vote her back in... And we will.

Some people voted to evict Bonnie... She went... And now they're giving us a chance to vote her back in... And we won't.

If that person is eligible to win, well, tough shit to those who voted someone out. You did so knowing full well they can do whatever they want later on. And if you're main point was to save another housemate, such as Aisleyne, you got what you wanted anyway.

And now we Nikki fans might just get what we want ”

You are right on the mark. The return of Niki is better than anything BB has ever done. Now the game restarts and even though she cant win the money at least she will be back in.
Eleven11
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Kyomii:
“Well it is no wonder the voting is down this year - what is the point of paying money to vote a HM out when BB put them right back in? Totally unfair.

Endemol will not be getting another penny off me - and I know others who feel the same. Viewing figures will drop even more.”


If there is another BB next year I have a feeling that they will have a problem with voting.

Who, in their right mind, would vote to get someone out knowing there was a chance they would be eligible to come back in and win the prize money?
alexandree
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by hanney:
“You are right on the mark. The return of Niki is better than anything BB has ever done. Now the game restarts and even though she cant win the money at least she will be back in.”

If she cant win then what is the point of putting her back in?
I suppose hardened Nikki fans want her back so that they can watch her go completely of her head, we have never seen on live tv someone having a nervous breakdown yet. She was touching insanity when she was VOTED out if they put her back in she will flip, when she came out the 1st time she should have been sent straight to the lunatic asylum, The girl needs help, not putting back into an enviroment that could send her over the edge.
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