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Threads about Channel 4/Endemol rigging the winner.
RoboScorpion
04-08-2006
There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?



RS
Damon23
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?



RS”

Nikki has a TV programme coming up.........
RoboScorpion
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Damon23:
“Nikki has a TV programme coming up.........”

That just confirms it - they've given her a TV show even though she was voted out half way through. On that basis, it doesn't matter whether you win or not - it's your personality that'll get you the TV job afterwards or not.
Cent
04-08-2006
Dermot was right. Nikki leaving proves that it's not fixed, because they would have done ANYTHING to keep her if they could, but they were stuck.
Damon23
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“That just confirms it - they've given her a TV show even though she was voted out half way through. On that basis, it doesn't matter whether you win or not - it's your personality that'll get you the TV job afterwards or not.”

But having her as 'winner' of Big Brother givs it extra publicity doesn't it? Sounds more glamorous than 'starring Nikki, who came 12th in Big Brother 7'.

As for Nikki's personality, I don't think she has the personality to have a TV career past this programme. Winning BB, no matter how, would give any prospects an extra boost though.
aisleyne2win
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?
RS”

I think ultimately it comes down to them wanting to be in control. They bill it as a reality show with an unknown outcome, but I'm sure the think of it as their show, and they want it to run according to their script. Also, there's nothing that would impress the advertisers more than showing that they can manipulate millions of people into spending money the way they want them to.

And as Damon23 says, they have TV deals with some contestants - or would like to have.
Cos Ti
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“That just confirms it - they've given her a TV show even though she was voted out half way through. On that basis, it doesn't matter whether you win or not - it's your personality that'll get you the TV job afterwards or not.”

What personality does Shamtelle Horseface have?

Can you describe it?
jpt
04-08-2006
The first reason is because they can.

I know a lot of people who work in TV and it seems to get anywhere in that industry you need to be a lot of things not least manipulative. So to manipulate millions of people to do what you want would be the ultimate.

A more realistic answer is that they would like the winner to be someone they aren’t ashamed of. For instance they would prefer Pete to win rather than someone like Grace or Sezer, likewise I think they would prefer Pete over most of the rest in there at the moment because he would be good for future publicity for BB.
asantewah87
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?



RS”

One word ... Money
DarthDork
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?



RS”


People are more likely to vote for someone that they "hate" or "love" than someone that they like or dislike.

It's all for the money.
RoboScorpion
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by asantewah87:
“One word ... Money”

That falls some way short of a convincing explanation...


Originally Posted by Cos Ti:
“What personality does Shamtelle Horseface have?

Can you describe it?”

No, I cant - Nikki and Chantelle are both talentless, self-publicising nobodies, but It wasn't me that offered them the TV work, was it?
Chief Inspector
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by centrino04:
“Dermot was right. Nikki leaving proves that it's not fixed, because they would have done ANYTHING to keep her if they could, but they were stuck.”

Nikki's eviction was intentional, they had the opportunity to do two things in order to avoid it...

1) Do not put all housemates up for eviction. (Unless of course they knew Nikki would be up anyway.)

2) Make it a positive vote. They did this as a one off in order to protect Pete. It would have made much more sense to have done it when all but one housemate faced eviction.
Voice of Reason
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Damon23:
“Nikki has a TV programme coming up.........”

But that's a self defeating argument. Nikki has been evicted and, even if she re-enters the house under the rumoured ex-HM twist, is NOT eligible to win.
Damon23
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Voice of Reason:
“But that's a self defeating argument. Nikki has been evicted and, even if she re-enters the house under the rumoured ex-HM twist, is NOT eligible to win.”

But other rumours say otherwise. We shall see.
Cent
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Chief Inspector:
“Nikki's eviction was intentional, they had the opportunity to do two things in order to avoid it...

1) Do not put all housemates up for eviction. (Unless of course they knew Nikki would be up anyway.)

2) Make it a positive vote. They did this as a one off in order to protect Pete. It would have made much more sense to have done it when all but one housemate faced eviction.”

What if they assumed Nikki would be safe, then got a shock once they started voting? There was no way out of it then.
40-40J's
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by centrino04:
“Dermot was right. Nikki leaving proves that it's not fixed, because they would have done ANYTHING to keep her if they could, but they were stuck.”

So if rumours are true, then BB really would do ANYTHING - they are putting her back in, after the GBP spent money voting her out.
Cos Ti
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“No, I cant - Nikki and Chantelle are both talentless, self-publicising nobodies, but It wasn't me that offered them the TV work, was it?”

I know.

'Twas the dreaded PTB.
Last edited by Cos Ti : 04-08-2006 at 09:38
Cent
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by 40-40J's:
“So if rumours are true, then BB really would do ANYTHING - they are putting her back in, after the GBP spent money voting her out.”

...and they did the same with Jon Tickle.

Big deal.
Voice of Reason
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by Damon23:
“But other rumours say otherwise. We shall see.”

The fact that a housemate that has been evicted by public vote is no longer eligible to win is not something that comes under the "BB can change the rules at any time" getout clause. It's not a BB rule, it's in their contracts. Some of the HMs have discussed it on the live feed.
astradyne
04-08-2006
Well how come Nikki got one then?

Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“ it's your personality that'll get you the TV job afterwards or not.”

RoboScorpion
04-08-2006
Not seeing any genuinely convincing reasons here...

Given that BB is CH4's flagship show, they'd be pretty dumb to p155 the audience off to the point where nobody watches and nobody votes.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds...
bluntbob
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“There are a load of threads spouting opinions on how CH4/Endemol are deliberately portraying certain housemates in only a good way and others in a bad way, and/or bringing in voting "twists" in order to make sure that CH4/Endemol's preferred housemate wins.

Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?



RS”


Who knows really why Endemol tamper with the show. But they do. and for no good reason because what they do show is barely entertainment compared to the stuff they miss out. They slot housemates in character roles and run the show within storylines. The majority of the times the editing make the housemates less interesting than they normally are so it can't be for entertainment.
I suppose this is why people think they are fixing the votes by giving the viewers a false perception of the housemates.
Like I've said they've missed out a lot of really good stuff from housemates just because it didn't fit in with the character roles they've given them!

IMO the natural development of the housemates and the storylines and relationships that have actually evolved in the house have been far more interesting and captivating and provided a much more rounded entertaining experience than anything the editing team have given us.

So the question is why do Endemol give us poor storylines when the housemates have provided better ones? and why do they show good housemates as one dimensional rather than leave them the way they are.

It's not surprising that people saying it's a fix.
Last edited by bluntbob : 04-08-2006 at 10:04
appalachian
04-08-2006
Quote:
“Channel 4/Endemol rigging the winner.”

Daydreams about Grace and Nikki dangling by their ankles from ropes off the tops of sails on a tea clipper.
Wildrover06
04-08-2006
Originally Posted by RoboScorpion:
“Can someone give me a convincing reason why CH4/Endemol would want any particular housemate to win over any of the others...?

I mean what do they stand to gain if Housemate-A wins, rather than Housemate-B?
RS”

These are questions only CH4/Endemol can try to answer!

They are the reasons for all the threads. Posters can only point out what they see is happening, & try to figure out why the hell CH4/Endemol are doing what they're doing, but the powers that be are really the only one's with the answers.

Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between, that CH4/Endemol don't really know what they are doing.....the show hasn't panned out as they imagined it would nomination wise & are just trying to come up with ways to add a bit of intrigue into the show, in order to keep us & the HMs guessing.

Who knows....You decide........
CLL Dodge
04-08-2006
Because they have the power, and power corrupts.

Because the individuals concerned are fans of the show and have their favourites.

Because their corporate mentality is for ratings and profits, so manipulation of the viewers is what they are all about.
Last edited by CLL Dodge : 04-08-2006 at 10:40
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