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X Box 360 Live
bennat
08-08-2006
Hello, advice please.

I went out and bought myself an X-Box 360 today!

Does anyone know if I am able to use X-box live with the HC broadband connection. If so can anyone help with how it would actually work.

I am assuming as the connection is via a LAN with HC then the x-box would plug straight into the phone line???

Any advice and thoughs appreciated...
aprec
08-08-2006
You can but it was not straightforward for me. Xbox should be connected up to your PC not the phone line. You may well have to change some of your settings on your PC. I found great assistance on the XBOX forum.

Sorry i cant remember what those settings changes were!

It was a frustrating case of trial and error until i got a connection
Last edited by aprec : 08-08-2006 at 15:28
DrinkingBuddy
08-08-2006
Buy a router, plug the HC broadband connection as the feed into the router and the 360 as one of the connections. There is no need to connect to a PC at all.
bennat
08-08-2006
Originally Posted by DrinkingBuddy:
“Buy a router, plug the HC broadband connection as the feed into the router and the 360 as one of the connections. There is no need to connect to a PC at all.”

What Router do you reccomend? How much am I looking at shelling out?
RyanL
08-08-2006
You can also just plug the xbox into the homechoice stb instead of your pc,or plug it in the other socket on the back of the stb and it should work but you will only be able to go online with one device at a time,did this for a while myself but eventually picked up a cheap netgear router.
bennat
08-08-2006
Originally Posted by RyanL:
“You can also just plug the xbox into the homechoice stb instead of your pc,or plug it in the other socket on the back of the stb and it should work but you will only be able to go online with one device at a time,did this for a while myself but eventually picked up a cheap netgear router.”


Now that sounds like a much much better idea!

Cheers for that!
DrinkingBuddy
08-08-2006
Originally Posted by bennat:
“What Router do you reccomend? How much am I looking at shelling out?”

In my experience routers are now stack 'em high, sell 'em low products, so I'd expect to pick one up for no more than about £40 these days (have a look here ); however, I would warn that being so cheap routers don't tend to have a long life span.

I currently have a Buffalo router, it's lasted a couple of years so far although occasionally needs restarting. Used to have a Linksys router which is by far the easiest make I have ever had in terms of setup and configuration, but it did seem to break about half an hour after the warrenty expired
BBRealist
08-08-2006
I'm also using a Buffalo, which seems fairly good. Better than the Linksys I used previously.

Occasionally it needs restarting however I previously restarted it at the same time as the Homechoice box. Hasn't needed restarting for a few weeks though which is promising.
beckenham8
08-08-2006
Hi,
Yeah I think the router option is the best one. I found some issues when trying to play a few of the games online and had to set the xbox ip address up on the router as a DMZ. Basically it conects the xbox striaght to the internet. Not sur e f this is ideal but it did work!
TheNinjaPirate
09-08-2006
I don't really see how adding a router should help, to be honest. If you stick the Xbox in the DMZ of the router then the router becomes transparent in effect, so you might as well have it connected straight to the HC box.

I was under the impression that the HC box just relays the IP address from HC, in other words there is no router or NAT function?
BBRealist
09-08-2006
Originally Posted by TheNinjaPirate:
“I don't really see how adding a router should help, to be honest. If you stick the Xbox in the DMZ of the router then the router becomes transparent in effect, so you might as well have it connected straight to the HC box.

I was under the impression that the HC box just relays the IP address from HC, in other words there is no router or NAT function?”

The HC box is a modem so no IP functions at all.

Yeah that's right, DMZ means that all packets that come in that aren't destined for another machine are forwarded to whatever is in the DMZ.

The router keeps track of the requests that are made from it, stateful NAT and all that, when a packet comes in unsolicited without a stored connection state it gets shoved to whatever is in the DMZ.

It's useful from the point of view that it might let a machine that needs to accept incoming connections work but it does cause potential issues with the non-DMZ machines.

So long as the non-DMZ machines have no requirement to accept incoming connections or you're a dab hand with port forwarding and the router lets you configure it you're fine.
Last edited by BBRealist : 09-08-2006 at 13:37
JonathanS
21-08-2006
You don't have to buy a router, you can just use the pc. What I did was this - I used the ethernet/usb adaptor that homechoice gave me when I joined up, so I could have both the xbox and the homechoice box connected to the pc (one in the normal network port, one using the adaptor via usb). Then you set up 'connection sharing', which was a fairly simple procedure (in windows xp anyway) between the two. You may lose a bit of performance this way, but saves the expense of a router and allows you to have both pc and xbox online at the same time.

Jonathan
beckenham8
22-08-2006
Hi,
Though you can connect up the computer and the xbox in this way certain features of the xbox e.g. playing some of the xbox games online require certain ports to be opened up. If you were to do this then potentially your opening up your PC at the same time. Again I'm not sure if this is a problem but thought I'd mention it.
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