ok, very early speculation, but I thought I'd share it with you all

ok, the 12th episode is called The TimeWar. in the daily mail today it said the Doctor will become a Dad, so this probably means we'll meet his family.ok, so putting all this together with the face of boes secret that is more than likely to be "you are not alone" i've come up with this conclusion...

the face of boe's secret is "You are not alone" meaning that a time lords still alive. Then in the time war the 10th doctor gets dragged into the time war again somehow and has to save himself or something Then at the end it turns out his that son/daughter/granddaughter ect. actually manages to survive, but the doc didnt know that before.

and more than likely this is because the doctor only has a few regenerations left, they need to continue the shoe show how, thus bringing in another timelord/lady i.e susan, his grandaughter. which could possibly be played by Billie Piper, since she wanted to be a female doctor if she ever came back

We know Jack returns.

And there'll be some TimeLord related stuff.

If the Black Dalek hasn't appeared yet he'll probably do so here, probably with some mates in tow.

Ah, But I've just realised would that not create a paradox?

where does it say that the doctor is to be a dad. Do you have a link? I don't wear slippers so I don't read the mail.

Yeah Jack returns in the series finale

Here is what the Article says:

Everyone knows that Time Lords only have 13 lives and then die, since there are only 2 regenerations left, the BBC need a plan to carry the show on. So the only way to stop Dr Who from being killed is by bringing on a successor. Last year it was hinted that the Doctor had a child following a doomed love affair with someone from a forgotten planet. Now Russell will unveil his bombshell that he really is a Dad in next years finale. Its a stroke of genius

Wow? They got all that from the 'I was a father once' line?

And doesn't 'once' imply that he no longer is...

Well all the timelords are dead, so maybe he no longer considers himself a father.

Or maybe his son/daughter betrayed him, and the Doctor no longer considers them their son/daughter.

His Grandaughter is still alive. so he was a Dad once, he still is a grandfather though.

and like i said, perhaps he doesnt know his daughter is alive

Ah, but was it ever actually said she was his genetic grandaughter? Many in fandom say she was adopted...

Ah, never thought of that well I assume she is, since shes a timelord too according to another forum

ooh, the sun says that the doctor has a son not a daughter.

all complete speculation, and im annoyed they have started leaking s3 finale info already! GRRRRRRRR

lol all we know is that ep12 is called the timewar and that jack is in

God, im sure this business of 'The Doctor Jr.' must be wrong and I pray it is. Any idiot can think of a reason to pass the Time Lord life limit. In the five Doctors the Time Lords offered the Master a new set of 13, therefore it is not biological and for some reason the it is a rule imposed. So what, end of the 13th Doctor last episode, gives this new son who we havent seen before the TARDIS key and he dies then somehow Doctor Who continues without the Doctor? A stroke of Genius, eh?

Concerning Susan, I have never had any doubt that she is the Doctors biological granddaughter. Yes, this violates the 'asexual Doctor' rule, which I support, but we must assume that the Timelords reproduce (sexually or by giant looms of goo, Lungbarrow I think). I think its entirely plausible that some young Time Girl fell for a younger Bill Hartnell. Surely some people must have been attracted to him?

No, it's pure speculation.

i know thats what i said on another forum, why can't the doctor get a new set of regenerations like the master.
and if for instance, susan took over from the Doctor, what will the Show be called?

ETA ~ why're they introducing someone now, he still has regenerations!
Last edited by EmmaLemma : 10-08-2006 at 12:25

In various books and comics, sort of. The canon is disputed, but in the later series of the "old" Who which were cancelled half way through the revelation (and a plot that was later explored in various spin off media), it was going to be shown that Susan was the granddaughter of a being on Gallifrey called "The Other", and that she was the last natural born child on the planet, that was now sterile. The Other killed himself by diving in to the genetic looms that were then used to grow new Gallifreyans, and the suggestion was to be that the Doctor was essentially his "reincarnation" through genetic chance or whatever. The Doctor and Susan recognised their bond (suggesting the Doctor had at least some of The Other's memories) and set out travelling, thus explaining how the Doctor could have a granddaughter without necessarily ever having had a proper "child" as such. I'd though the reference to the Doctor being a father was a reference to that, and nothing more, though it's certainly possible RTD wants to make more of it.

It is established that Gallifreyans are sterile though. I suppose you could always get round that with some alien dohickey like DNA transplantation though, rather than procreation in the old fashioned sense.

Phazer

But The Doctor has a son. according to OTHER sources

I wonder which incarnation of the Doctor was the father? I wonder if the Sun assumes it to be from the tenth. It may be most likely it was from the fourth Doctor? Linking this, how old is his son? Im hoping a couple of centuries and not some kind of Timelord Teen.

yeah lol, i have no idea how old his son is, but Susan his "Grandaughter" Traveled with the first doctor, I think it was the 1st doctor, correct me if I'm wrong

One way for the Doctor to regenerate past Doctor 13 could be: The Time Lords have a certain organ in thier body that controls regeneration but degrades every time they regenerate, after regeneration 12 it no longer works, however the Time Lords could repair this organ if they wanted (this is what they offered The Master).

During the Time War every Time Lord (including the Doctor) died. Then the Doctor and a few other Time Lords were rebuilt by Nanogenes- the first Time Lord to be rebuilt was on his original life when he died and his regeneration organ was intact. The Nanogenes, using this Time Lord as a blue print, then repaired every Time Lord's regeneration organ as it was when they were on thier original life because this is what they thought of as normal (As in Empty Child/ The Doctor Dances). But the Doctor dosn't know that he was rebuilt.

Can anyone think of a clue that the FOB could give the Doctor about the Nanogenes?

FOB? Meaning..?

Face of Boe?

ahh yeah, i feel quite stupid now lol