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tvholic
24-08-2006
Living proof, that old is always the best! If CRT and LCD were to have a fight in the boxing ring, CRT would only need to punch the the flat ba**"rd once in it's poxy fake screen stomach and instead of blood, all of it's INKY FAKE colours would run everywhere leaving CRT the ultimate champion!!!
late8
24-08-2006
True, but CRT is a heavy weight , and LCD is a feather weight.. the two would never be allowed into the ring.
mjt03
25-08-2006
but LCD is much saving energy as i own Philips 32" LCD -- still great for near 1 year & no problems at all - it much bright and very clear picture -- 32" LCD weight is 18.4Kg that not heavy as it much lighter...
partridge
25-08-2006
tvholic. You need help.

Why do you have such a problem with people liking something that you don't? Bit full of yourself perhaps? Think you know better? Egomaniac? Superiority complex? No one else will listen?

How about getting a life instead of posting trash here?

Aha, just checked your profile. You're a 20 year old student, so you know nothing. You don't have an LCD because you can't afford one, so like a sad little boy you come here to belittle those that have something that you don't.

Go away and learn stuff, that's what you're supposed to be doing isn't it? Learn about free choice, that would be a good start.
Last edited by partridge : 25-08-2006 at 08:39
A-Friend
25-08-2006
Thank you partridge, that has really made me chuckle!!!
gomezz
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by partridge:
“Why do you have such a problem with people liking something that you don't? Bit full of yourself perhaps? Think you know better? Egomaniac? Superiority complex? No one else will listen?”

I think you need to have been following the other thread dissing LCD to fully appreciate the context which gave rise to the post-modernist irony in this thread.

Do you want any salt and vinegar to go with that chip on your shoulder?
partridge
25-08-2006
um, actually if YOU check that other topic, you'll see I've been there already... ok?

salt & vinegar? nah, pass it to the student, he's a bit hard up I hear.
gomezz
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by partridge:
“um, actually if YOU check that other topic, you'll see I've been there already... ok?”

Fair enough. A SOH failure then?
tvholic
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by partridge:
“tvholic. You need help.

Why do you have such a problem with people liking something that you don't? Bit full of yourself perhaps? Think you know better? Egomaniac? Superiority complex? No one else will listen?

How about getting a life instead of posting trash here?

Aha, just checked your profile. You're a 20 year old student, so you know nothing. You don't have an LCD because you can't afford one, so like a sad little boy you come here to belittle those that have something that you don't.

Go away and learn stuff, that's what you're supposed to be doing isn't it? Learn about free choice, that would be a good start.”

u stupid ass, just cause u can't see the difference that's clear to people even with the worse eyesight!

for the record, i'm 19 years old and i do have a Samsung LE26R73BD, i'm just a bit let down that the pic is rubbish and how people are conned into buying LCD's at like 2 grand for some of them, when the picture on them is much more false, blotchy, blurry that on a CTR, plus they can only cope 100% on still scenery, and that's what the professionals who know what they're talking about have said and that's all of them, every single god dam LCD out there, even yours, if you've got 1. like i say, get up close to it and you will see STRAIGHT AWAY
Last edited by tvholic : 25-08-2006 at 13:23
Dan27
25-08-2006
So did you actually SEE the TV in action when you bought it? or has your eyesight suddenly improved ever since you forked out?
tvholic
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by DanVitale:
“So did you actually SEE the TV in action when you bought it? or has your eyesight suddenly improved ever since you forked out?”

I saw it in action and asked, "Is this how the picture is going to look when I take it home?" They said, "No, all the TV's in here are connect to just the 1 ariel" It looked a very nice TV and so I bought it, took it home and noticed immediately all the above faults when watching it resonably close, not too close with my head on the screen, but on close scrutiny I saw them. A week or so later, my uncle came down to see it, he said, " the picture is terrible! You paid £800 quid for that, not worth it" That day, went into Comet, told them the situation, they reccomended a better Scart Lead. Soon as I got paid, I thought I'd ask Curry's on their opinion (I bought it from Comet) just so I don't waste my money on buying something that won't make a difference. They siad, "It's got nothing to do with getting a better lead, people go for stylish space saving TV's, where does it say anywhere in here the picture is gonna be good? Couldn't believe what he was saying. Cycling happened to be on the TV at the time, he said, "I watch cycling and this is what I have to put up with as well, it's a shame but that's what you get with LCD's" Asking him, "So have we gone back in time then, surely technology should be improving?" " he actually agreed and said, "Yes mate"
late8
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by tvholic:
“u stupid ass, just cause u can't see the difference that's clear to people even with the worse eyesight!

for the record, i'm 19 years old and i do have a Samsung LE26R73BD, i'm just a bit let down that the pic is rubbish and how people are conned into buying LCD's when the picture on them is much more false, blotchy, blurry that on a CTR, plus they can only cope 100% on still scenery, and that's all of them, every single god dam LCD out there, even yours, if you've got 1. like i say, get up close to it and you will see STRAIGHT AWAY”


I agree with you to a small extent, but you don't have to force your ideas like that on other people. I'm happy with my LCD- not 100% but it will do as a stop gap before better tech and the advanced in High Definition progress further and become mature.
My Samsung does exactly the same, however i'm discussing it like an adult over in AV Forums and on hear incase i have a duff set...its true that R7 does blur on horizontal movement some people don't see it and some do- and if incorrectly set up the pic can be quite bad- but how can you tarnish all LCD screens with the same brush? - i have seen some expensive Philips and Toshiba screens that look awesome.
There are people on both sides of this argument who need to chill out- its only a panel of plastic glass and wires- LCD's no matter what people say still have the problems- but so do CRT's Palsmas DLP's etc etc.. if you are happy with the pic then fine.
Its a lot more complex than saying "all LCD's are crap"
tvholic
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by late8:
“I agree with you to a small extent, but you don't have to force your ideas like that on other people. I'm happy with my LCD- not 100% but it will do as a stop gap before better tech and the advanced in High Definition progress further and become mature.
My Samsung does exactly the same, however i'm discussing it like an adult over in AV Forums and on hear incase i have a duff set...its true that R7 does blur on horizontal movement some people don't see it and some do- and if incorrectly set up the pic can be quite bad- but how can you tarnish all LCD screens with the same brush? - i have seen some expensive Philips and Toshiba screens that look awesome.
There are people on both sides of this argument who need to chill out- its only a panel of plastic glass and wires- LCD's no matter what people say still have the problems- but so do CRT's Palsmas DLP's etc etc.. if you are happy with the pic then fine.
Its a lot more complex than saying "all LCD's are crap"”

They look awsome because in store, they sometimes use HD pics on them with not much movement in them. I asked the Curry's man about this, he said, "Yes, notice how all the HD demos in here are of slow moving things" By the way, I don't hate my TV, I'm getting used to it now I know it happens with all LCD screens and I suppose from a distance it can look good. He admitted this and all the things of my above post after he told us a load of bull about how it is a problem with Sky, you need to ring them and what av u!
Last edited by tvholic : 25-08-2006 at 13:45
Dan27
25-08-2006
So youre saying you saw your TV in a store with other tvs running HD demos running off just one aeriel?
Basil Faulty
25-08-2006
I am not a student, and I can afford plasma/lcd/whatever, and I prefer CRT too.

That's just one of those things I guess.
stud u like
25-08-2006
I prefer my LCD to my CRT. LCD is brighter,lighter and has the better picture.
late8
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by stud u like:
“I prefer my LCD to my CRT. LCD is brighter,lighter and has the better picture.”

in daylight conditions that comment wins hands down, but at night is a totally different story- dark blue comes to mind!
stud u like
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by late8:
“in daylight conditions that comment wins hands down, but at night is a totally different story- dark blue comes to mind! ”

Not on my set. Or I would have sent it back by now.
Orbitalzone
25-08-2006
I think much of the problem is that buying or asking for advice from Currys, Comet or other box shifting sheds sell what their managers tell them to sell and not what is right for the customer.... someone that sells fridges, hotplates ,PC packages as well as top end TV/Video really can't specialise in any one of those....also you can't just assume that because something is new is better.....

didn't I say all this in the other post lol


Last edited by Orbitalzone : 25-08-2006 at 19:42
call100
25-08-2006
Originally Posted by tvholic:
“They look awsome because in store, they sometimes use HD pics on them with not much movement in them. I asked the Curry's man about this, he said, "Yes, notice how all the HD demos in here are of slow moving things" By the way, I don't hate my TV, I'm getting used to it now I know it happens with all LCD screens and I suppose from a distance it can look good. He admitted this and all the things of my above post after he told us a load of bull about how it is a problem with Sky, you need to ring them and what av u!”

Thats really great, You are getting your advice from a Currys/Comet man...That says it all.....
tvholic a bit like alcoholic...doesn't really know whats what...
Duncan J
25-08-2006
Well LCD shows up artefacts more, it also takes a LOT of adjusting to get right, but am overall happy with the picture, including blacks.

One thing i notice when I see a large CRT is the great amount of flicker that I didn't really notice before I went to LCD. As another poster said a while ago it is particularly noticeable if you look just above or to the side of the screen. Probably not good for the eyes I wouldn't think. And HD on my Bravia S Series, well there's no comparison with CRT!
late8
26-08-2006
Originally Posted by stud u like:
“Not on my set. Or I would have sent it back by now.”

Your seriously saying that in a dark room your LCD is completely black like a CRT when its switched on ????
Yikes have you time traveled 10 years into the future?
mongosito
26-08-2006
Originally Posted by call100:
“Thats really great, You are getting your advice from a Currys/Comet man...That says it all.....
tvholic a bit like alcoholic...doesn't really know whats what...
”

The above is the same bull being used by LCD supporters on every thread.
They know the pix are crap,we know the pix are crap,the salespeople know the pix are crap,but while mugs shell out for sexy cabinets that look better off than on,they'll keep selling them.
Unfortunately,with HD broadcasting already here and the majority of the public not caring less about quality or even recognising it,LCD/plasma sets ARE the way forward.
I'm in the market for a new set within a year and I will buy an LCD/plasma,but I'm hoping that HD broadcasting and HDDVD players are more readily available than they are now.
LCD dos look awesome if you are 20 feet away,up close its dross.
The usual get out clause is that its not setup properly and of course Curry's/Comet etc don't come out well in that deaprtment.
However,as I posted on another thread,I've seen sets in Sevenoaks Sound and Visions,Richer Sounds and even the high end retailers in Central London and not one has had me gasping at any improvement with DVD or Sky.
As Jarrak(a pro LCD poster) points out on another thread,SD pictures will not look very good on LCD,especially pix from Sky with its low bitrate mess ,and DVD is the best that SD will give you,yet even upscaled the difference is not worth the expense.
I'd love to have a nice thin screen on the wall,but until HD is available or I can adjust my viewing to 20 feet,I'll stick with CRT and its incredible bulk
Praxidike
26-08-2006
Originally Posted by partridge:
“tvholic. You need help.

Why do you have such a problem with people liking something that you don't? Bit full of yourself perhaps? Think you know better? Egomaniac? Superiority complex? No one else will listen?

How about getting a life instead of posting trash here?

Aha, just checked your profile. You're a 20 year old student, so you know nothing. You don't have an LCD because you can't afford one, so like a sad little boy you come here to belittle those that have something that you don't.

Go away and learn stuff, that's what you're supposed to be doing isn't it? Learn about free choice, that would be a good start.”

Oi! I'm a 20 year old student!!!

Although if tvholic knows nothing because he prefers CRT, I must know everything because I know LCD is miles better.
Kojack
27-08-2006
Originally Posted by Praxidike:
“Oi! I'm a 20 year old student!!!

Although if tvholic knows nothing because he prefers CRT, I must know everything because I know LCD is miles better. ”

Lol m8

Some people aren't happy with there purchase so then all of that techology is obviously faulty.

Each to there own, a lot of people are happy with there LCD's so who are we to tell them its rubbish when it suits there purpose & needs.

Some people research before they buy, others go in head first & later ask WHY?
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