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Who do you want to win? *spoilers*
Starlet
09-09-2006
I am going to request a poll...

Which of the final two would you rather see win? Mike or Erika?
browncube
09-09-2006
Mike - going on game play, plus I cant stand Erika (this season or season 4)
Georgecarol
09-09-2006
I can't stand either of them, but at least Mike has played the game.
Mr Blonde
09-09-2006
I want Mike Boogie to win as he is the surviving member of Chill Town...also it would be kind of poignant if this turns out to be the last Big Brother i.e...Boogie is the first ever head of household and also the last ever head of household..unfortunately I think Erika will win easily...here's how the voting will go: -

Will: Boogie
Janelle: Erika
Chicken George: Erika
Danielle: Erika
James: Erika
Howie: Erika
Marcelles: Erika

Erika wins 6-1
Jamie181
09-09-2006
Erika. She's the nicer person and she hasn't played a bad game.
Emerican Idol
10-09-2006
I'd vote Mike because Erika totally dogged Danielle. If it was me I'd be pissed.
Coolies
10-09-2006
Mike because as many people have said he has played the better game I really don't care though the best 2 players finished in 3rd and 4th IMO.
jonnythemoose
10-09-2006
ERIKA. if there's a god, it shall be
Jasontops
10-09-2006
Difficult decision.

I hate Boogie, but alas he did play the better game, So Boogie gets my vote The lesser of two idoits
Starlet
10-09-2006
See I did agree with that until about a week ago, Mike played the better game and even though he's a tool he should win...BUT his treatment of Erika over the last few days has over stepped a line for me...he's been sleeping in her bed, doing sexual things with her etc...knowing that she thinks it's for real, all just to manipulate her...that's not ok in my opinion, plus his reaction to Will being evicted ("this is our game, those bitches aren't going to take it over" calling Erika a worthless ugly whore and crying like a baby because he's never been without Will in the house before waa waaa waaaa) just made me despise him!

I don't care if he was the better player, he already won a car, a plasma TV, a holiday to....somewhere nice etc and that's already far more reward than such a terrible human being deserves!
bbaddict!!!
10-09-2006
Erika has done nothing this season apart from persuading Janelle to evict Will. I have been a big fan of Chilltown as they have played the game since day one and have been entertaining to watch.
Heres how I think the voting might go...

Marcellas - Erika
I think this is pretty much a certainty as he hates Chilltown as it was them who were responsible for his eviction.

Howie - Erika
Do I need to explain?

James - Mike
This is one of the votes that could go either way but he may vote Mike as he was the better player.

Danielle - Mike
She was annoyed with Erika for evicting her and said she would vote for the better player when she left.

George - Mike
Erika did a lot of bad things such as getting rid of him in competitions so George may want revenge.

Will - Mike
This ones a no brainer

Janelle - Mike
Will will try and make sure he manipulates her vote and she may want to vote for the better player.

So I predict Mike to win 5 - 2
jonnythemoose
10-09-2006
i really don't know which way it's going to fall...i really hope erika wins, but i can see danielle/james/george/janelle voting either way
Jasontops
10-09-2006
Originally Posted by Starlet:
“See I did agree with that until about a week ago, Mike played the better game and even though he's a tool he should win...BUT his treatment of Erika over the last few days has over stepped a line for me...he's been sleeping in her bed, doing sexual things with her etc...knowing that she thinks it's for real, all just to manipulate her...that's not ok in my opinion, plus his reaction to Will being evicted ("this is our game, those bitches aren't going to take it over" calling Erika a worthless ugly whore and crying like a baby because he's never been without Will in the house before waa waaa waaaa) just made me despise him!

I don't care if he was the better player, he already won a car, a plasma TV, a holiday to....somewhere nice etc and that's already far more reward than such a terrible human being deserves!”

but thats the whole point, Big Brother is a game.
Georgecarol
10-09-2006
I agree with Starlet to some degree. Yes it's a game, but Boogie introduced viciousness that should not have been in the game, was totally uneccessary, and downright insulting. He totally lied to Janelle during her eviction when he said he would never say a bad word against her. Here's a couple of examples right here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MaRafLYNXpI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=y2t6AQcbzgg

Ok, it's a game and everyone lies and cheats and backstabs, but when it involves the game not when it's personal, and not when you're pissed off because another player is better than you, or messed up your plans by winning veto.

And let's not forget his urinating in her face comment, the man is just nasty and yes, he played a good game, but on the other hand I just begrudge the money going to such an as****e
Last edited by Georgecarol : 10-09-2006 at 23:45
Jamie181
11-09-2006
I nearly always want the best player to win, even when they've played a dirty game - like Alison, Will, and Danielle did in their seasons.

But Boogie just offends me. He's not even the kind of character that you 'love to hate' - he's just annoying. I would hate for him to win. Also, I don't think his game has been all that brilliant anyway. Where would he be without Will? Not even part of the line-up, that's where.

I haven't even bothered to download the past couple of episodes - that's how annoyed I am at him and Erika making it to the final over Janelle and Will.
Starlet
11-09-2006
Exactly...I know how different reality TV is in America, I have watched enough BBUSA and Survivor to know that it's ok for the 'bad guys' to win, it isn't a popularity contest like it is over here etc...I am fine with that, but Boogie over stepped a line for me, it's one thing to lie, cheat and scheme...it's another to use someone sexually, having them believe it's for real all the while calling them a 'worthless whore' etc behind their back.

There has to be that line somewhere, surely?
Jasontops
11-09-2006
Originally Posted by jamie181:
“I nearly always want the best player to win, even when they've played a dirty game - like Alison, Will, and Danielle did in their seasons.

But Boogie just offends me. He's not even the kind of character that you 'love to hate' - he's just annoying. I would hate for him to win. Also, I don't think his game has been all that brilliant anyway. Where would he be without Will? Not even part of the line-up, that's where.

I haven't even bothered to download the past couple of episodes - that's how annoyed I am at him and Erika making it to the final over Janelle and Will. ”

Yeah...I agree but what did Erika do to give her the title of "All Star Big Brother winner"? like Janelle said all Erika did was throw competitions and kiss butt.
Spoiler

Also during the speeches made to the Jury, Erika took credit for evicting Will, Danielle and Janelle from the house.. No Erika you had no part in Janelle or Will eviction from the house...

Last edited by Jasontops : 11-09-2006 at 08:11
Jasontops
11-09-2006
Originally Posted by Starlet:
“Exactly...I know how different reality TV is in America, I have watched enough BBUSA and Survivor to know that it's ok for the 'bad guys' to win, it isn't a popularity contest like it is over here etc...I am fine with that, but Boogie over stepped a line for me, it's one thing to lie, cheat and scheme...it's another to use someone sexually, having them believe it's for real all the while calling them a 'worthless whore' etc behind their back.

There has to be that line somewhere, surely?”

Yeah but I am sure Erika said she was playing him I dont remember Mike calling her 'worthless whore' but remember its a TV show things can be edited to make it look worse or better.

Also, I am sure in BB4, Erika said alot worse to a fellow houseguest...

I am not defending Boogie at all, I hate him, but he played the better game....Erika did nothing, well at least Boogie did something
Last edited by Jasontops : 11-09-2006 at 08:25
Starlet
11-09-2006
I am pretty sure Erika wasn't playing him, the fact that even after finding out she had been hardcore played she was saying 'I hate myself for still finding him attractive, I want to hate him' - and yeah, when Will was evicted Boogie in the diary room was saying 'She's had her ugly long face on all day, in a way I am glad she turned on me because now I can stop using her, she's served her purpose, I no longer own her and that's all the ho was good for'.

As for Boogie playing a better game, perhaps he did...but Erika was in the house in the first place because either America wanted her in or the producers did...the ONLY reason Boogie is even there is because Will wouldn't go in without him!
Mr Blonde
11-09-2006
Starlet...you need to remember that Boogie made those comments moments after his best friend was backdoored from the house and was backstabbed by a person he thought he could trust...I have watched a lot of Boogie and he is genuinely a nice guy...in the heat of the moment a person can say anything...
Jasontops
11-09-2006
Originally Posted by Starlet:
“I am pretty sure Erika wasn't playing him, the fact that even after finding out she had been hardcore played she was saying 'I hate myself for still finding him attractive, I want to hate him' - and yeah, when Will was evicted Boogie in the diary room was saying 'She's had her ugly long face on all day, in a way I am glad she turned on me because now I can stop using her, she's served her purpose, I no longer own her and that's all the ho was good for'.

As for Boogie playing a better game, perhaps he did...but Erika was in the house in the first place because either America wanted her in or the producers did...the ONLY reason Boogie is even there is because Will wouldn't go in without him!”

Yeah but he still got into the house via the producers...its about how you play the game, not how you got into the game.....
jonnythemoose
11-09-2006
Originally Posted by Jasontops:
“Yeah...I agree but what did Erika do to give her the title of "All Star Big Brother winner"? like Janelle said all Erika did was throw competitions and kiss butt.
Spoiler

Also during the speeches made to the Jury, Erika took credit for evicting Will, Danielle and Janelle from the house.. No Erika you had no part in Janelle or Will eviction from the house...
”

uhhh, Erika was 100% the reason Will got evicted...Janelle just took credit because she did the actual deed!
Jasontops
11-09-2006
Originally Posted by jonnythemoose:
“uhhh, Erika was 100% the reason Will got evicted...Janelle just took credit because she did the actual deed! ”

How did you come to that conclusion?
jonnythemoose
12-09-2006
because Erika spent the whole evening working Janelle...she was the one that persuaded Janelle to evict Will. Had Erika not intervened, her backside would have been booted out onto the tarmac outside
Starlet
12-09-2006
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde:
“Starlet...you need to remember that Boogie made those comments moments after his best friend was backdoored from the house and was backstabbed by a person he thought he could trust...I have watched a lot of Boogie and he is genuinely a nice guy...in the heat of the moment a person can say anything...”


But that's another reason it made him look bad in my eyes, ChillTown backdoored and backstabbed pretty much everyone whos on the Jury, when Howie reacted badly when he was evicted Boogie was calling him all the names under the sun and he constantly has digs at him (and Danielle) because they took the game personally....makes him a huge hypocrite on top of all the other reasons I don't like him!

And yeah, Will's evicton was Erika's work, at first I thought that Janelle and Erika really had worked out Chilltown and it was a mutural joint effort...but as soon as Janelle lost the second part of the HOH challenge she was back all over him, working him to make sure he took her to final 2 etc, now I realise she played and manipulated Janelle into it.
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