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Why is there no MOWOAwards?
As we have MOBO Awards, why not MOWO (Music of White Origin) Awards?
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Give it a few years and the MOBOs will be looked back on in the same embarassing way as 'Mind Your Language', 'Love thy Neighbour' and 'Minipops' are today.
Especially if last night's showing is anything to go by. |
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Originally Posted by Manko
Give it a few years and the MOBOs will be looked back on in the same embarassing way as 'Mind Your Language', 'Love thy Neighbour' and 'Minipops' are today.
Especially if last night's showing is anything to go by. |
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Too hard to pronounce?
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Originally Posted by Super_Steve
As we have MOBO Awards, why not MOWO (Music of White Origin) Awards?
(And yes, I agree that MOBO is a fatuous, and borderline apartheid concept) |
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I hate the MOBOs..... You'd think in this day in age it wouldn't matter where the hell it came from. Same with them freaking BET Awards, what a load of bollocks.
Um.... I'm black by the way *lol* |
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Considering modern rock comes from the Blues and R'n'B and Hip-hop are self-explanatory; What music is of white origin? There's a country music awards, there's a classical music awards.
The MOBOS aren't for black people, it's an alternative to throwing a wild variety of musical genres in an afterthought 'urban' category in many mainstream award shows. The only people that have a problem with it are borderline racists. |
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Originally Posted by spankyplugs
Considering modern rock comes from the Blues and R'n'B and Hip-hop are self-explanatory; What music is of white origin? There's a country music awards, there's a classical music awards.
The MOBOS aren't for black people, it's an alternative to throwing a wild variety of musical genres in an afterthought 'urban' category in many mainstream award shows. Quote:
The only people that have a problem with it are borderline racists.
Don't even try it.
Last edited by Histeria : 21-09-2006 at 15:27. |
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The only people that have a problem with it are borderline racists. |
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Don't even try it.
Ignoring that noted black man Justin Timberlake picked up a MOBO or two. |
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Originally Posted by spankyplugs
If people have a problem with the notion of the awards themselves, it's fine; but the vast majority of issues I've seen with them is based on the impression that black people have somehow got their own exclusive awards, and whitey's missing out.
Ignoring that noted black man Justin Timberlake picked up a MOBO or two. |
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Every single year this topic springs up
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Every single year this topic springs up
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I'm waiting on the first ever UK country music awards...
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Hmmm... I think it was more people pointing out that the concept of MOBOs is moronic. People often use the idea of a hypothetical MOWO, not seriously suggesting it should actually happen (hence my Enya/FC joke earlier), but pointing out that if the latter is unacceptable (and reasonably so) then why isn't the former? Both are equally stupid - and for the most part meaningless - titles, and equally divisive ideas.
If the MOWO idea is hypothetical, I'll concede; but I've seen an awful lot of people who are dead genuine about it, as if there's a racial injustice going on. |
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I'm waiting on the first ever UK country music awards...
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It's not about the race of the artist; it's just about the origin of the music. Anyone can be nominated if their music is "of black origin". Black music contains certain genres which are closely related.
It's more like an "urban" awards, since urban music originates from older styles. We have things such as Kerrang awards for rock; anyone one can be nominated if their music is of rock origin. |
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Gonna agree with spanky here.
The Brit Awards are on the whole, a rock and pop affair and misses out on a whole load of music so you have genre specific awards that covers other ranges of music (Classical Brits, Kerrang, World Music Awards, UK Mix, etc; ). The MOBOs are merely another one. Clearly there is a divide as there isn't any other European let alone a UK-based awards show that showcases 'black music'. The pallette is too thin just to have a Rap Awards or a RnB Awards. The problem with the MOBOs though is that it's purpose is misconstrued with it's attempts to showcase an extremely broad range of 'black music' without properly demonstrating it's purpose. Did I see a fair representation of what was the best in such genres of hip-hop, jazz, rap, RnB and soul? No, and that's the main problem of the MOBOs. Another problem is that the strength of depth in the quality of the nominees is pitiful. Should there be an Urban Music Awards instead? Hmmm...UMA? It's just as catchy an acronym as MOBO is. Last edited by stereoman : 21-09-2006 at 16:09. |
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It's not about the race of the artist; it's just about the origin of the music. Anyone can be nominated if their music is "of black origin". Black music contains certain genres which are closely related.
It's more like an "urban" awards, since urban music originates from older styles. We have things such as Kerrang awards for rock; anyone one can be nominated if their music is of rock origin. Last edited by Histeria : 21-09-2006 at 16:10. |
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Well, of course there is a division in racial lines. Black music developed from black people. White people claimed some of it and turned it into their own "race" of music. I mean, Rock music is heavily white
The title is only misleading to those who choose to believe so. It's like BET in America (Black Entertainment TV) - Why not have a WET. Well, first of all it's a silly name , but mainly because white people are catered for in popular culture enough already.
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It's like BET in America (Black Entertainment TV) - Why not have a WET. Well, first of all it's a silly name
, but mainly because white people are catered for in popular culture enough already.Honestly, I understand what you're saying, but to flag racial division like this is, at least in my opinion, unhelpful. Especially (as you highlighted) batching certain genres together and saying "these are ours". I just think that society, and the youth of today (I'm showing my age there) could do without the imposition of such divisions along racial lines, especially (as is the case with MOBO) when the title is historically misleading. Last edited by Histeria : 21-09-2006 at 16:37. |
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Originally Posted by spankyplugs
The only people that have a problem with it are borderline racists.
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If there was a market for Hispanic entertainment in the UK, then they'd probably be something for the Hispanic population. Perhaps there is a market but no one has cashed in on it yet.
Black music is pretty much the pop music of our generation; white kids love their urban music as much as black people do. Minorities are always catered for, but there has to be a lot of people in this minority (paradox, I know) for someone to splash out and spend money on entertaining them. Look at Sky. There's a lot for Africans and Asians; two cultures which are dominant minorities in the UK. The MOBOs were just created to give praise to a specific type of music; it is purposefully segregating race in music. That's the reason it exists. |
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If there was a market for Hispanic entertainment in the UK, then they'd probably be something for the Hispanic population. Perhaps there is a market but no one has cashed in on it yet.
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, but mainly because white people are catered for in popular culture enough already.