I agree with the whole 'it shouldn't be all lovely and fluffy' sentiment entirely. I don't however think there's any need for the absolute hate or vitrol that a small minority of people seem to think is appropriate. All it does is cause unnecessary arguments. You can dislike someone without tossing insults, the same way you can like someone without going all gooey.

It's not dictating how people post, just asking them to be considerate. Heated discussions are all well and good but sometimes what people write makes it seem as if they are just trying to be controversial and/or cause problems on purpose. Some seem to get unjustly annoyed when some likes a dancer/contestant they hate and vice versa. What's the point? We're all intelligent human beings right? I'm sure everyone on here can come up with a reasoned arguement for their dislikes which is far better than the blind hate.

No one should be getting annoyed at anyone for disliking someone but I can understand why they'd get annoyed when things turn stupidly nasty.

I agree. Discussion and exchange of views are really the life blood of a forum and for me, honestly, if I just wanted the pro-views with non of the cons then a fan site would be the place to be.

Sometimes, seeing someone elses point of view can alter your own, and sometimes it is just better to agree to differ on a subject and leave it at that.
For me, no amount of perssuasion by even his most dedicated fan would make me change my opinon of say, Brendon - but I appreciate that people do like him and conversely I'm not going to change their opinion either - and indeed, why should I.

I agree that we need to have people with different views or else their would be no point...

But I disagree with some of the things that happened last series and then after that series where people became personal with their messages...

OK you will get people that will come over VERY protective of their favourite dancers and Celebs but sometimes you have to leave it before it becomes a total bitch fight, its ok to have opinons on other dancers and celebs but its WRONG to start a arguement and end it by hurting another forumite...

Lots of people have become worried about posting and have stopped because of people flaming them instead of just the person they are supporting, I think you need to read whats been put into a thread and think about what your gonna write before you write it, if its a thread filled with really big Brendan fans don't post anything in there that will offend *Cough* Micra, Kitten and me yesterday *Cough*....

Remember we're here to talk about SCD not to fight each other to the point that someone either gets banned or else doesn't post anymore...

I think it's a shame that good open debate ends up in personal comments and arguments - the knack it to respect a persons view whether one agrees with it or not it is possible to support your favourite without running down the others. I just dont look into those threads supporting a particular celeb or dancer even if I like that person they always seem to be the ones where the arguments are.

I tend to keep to more neutral threads I like to discuss the show and all the dancers and celebs and not just one of them
Last edited by bendymixer : 12-10-2006 at 11:46

All Tasi Said Originally Was Let's Have No Hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She (and I Know Her Posts Well) Would Never Dictate What People Put, She Just Suggested That They Don't Get Personal With Each Other. One Reply On Here In Particular, Which Vilified Tasi Only Served To Show Up The Poster To Be Immature, Illeducated And Dragged Rather Than Brought Up.

Reading Some Of The Replies Indicates Tasi Had A Point.

There is one point where I will dictate what people write and it's this:

Please, please, please do not start every word with a capital letter. There's no need for, it is quite frankly incorrect and it makes whatever you write disjointed to read and is very distracting.

IGNORE IT FLECKERL. JUST CARRY ON AS NORMAL. SOMEONE IN YOUR PROFESSION DOESN’T NEED ME TO EXPLAIN P.Ping TO THEM DO THEY?

AS SOON AS THE SHOW IS OVER THIS FORUM WILL GET BACK TO NORMAL NEVER FEAR. UNTIL THEN, I’VE SENT YOU A PM, HAVE A LOOK AT IT, IT WAS SENT TO ME THIS MORNING, IT LOOKS A NICE FORUM AND I’VE SIGNED UP.

WRITNG IN THESE CAPS. IS BLINKING TIRING!

I’M OFF TO THE BADGER GROUP NOW SO WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU TOMORROW.

Claire2281 surely it is more important what people type and not if they post with each word as a capital? Except for text speak surely it is not important?

I have seen some very well written, well punctuated posts on here that have been totally insulting and personal - THAT's what should be picked up on.

Fleckerl have a look at that pm of Tasi's !!!!

It's just common courtesy to write correctly and surely not too much to ask for? Starting every word with a capital letter is nonsensical and makes what someone has written hard to read as our brains are trained to see capitals at the start of sentences.

A polite request to write with correct syntax so that posts are easier to read should not be something that's a problem. It's not me trying to be mean or nasty, just asking someone nicely to make their posts easier to read.
Last edited by claire2281 : 13-10-2006 at 07:59

I did and I have Bendymixer! Thanks a lot. I had no idea so many of us had defected.
It is like a breath of fresh air there. So novel to have an adult erudite discussion where one’s views may, on occasion, be contentious, but nevertheless are accepted as ones right to hold. Wonderful to belong to a group of adult people, with a grasp of the language who can discuss and disagree without getting personal.
For 30 years I’ve worked, in the main, with vulnerable people who sometimes come over as pompous because they are inarticulate. One has to make allowances.
I’ll be back when the forum returns to normal.

Am I the only one who looks at this hoping a smug star makes a complete pratt of themselves?

Having said that, I think this years ladies are going to be difficult to seperate

This was posted BEFORE SCD started this year, and a lot of good it did!

I do recall predicting that it would happen. Sad but true. Unfortunately, it's human nature and humans have a very nasty streak in them.

(I'm sorry if that offends anyone. It was not my intention. I may be feeling a little raw this morning after glancing at yet another newspaper story - even though I tried to turn the page over quickly - about the truly horrific things people do to animals. I really do hate the human race today - again).

Whilst not at that level on here, it has been getting nasty - and unfortunately nothing is going to prevent it. It's why I spend a lot of my time in the fun thread on this particular forum.

I'm glad this thread has been brought back, cos as has been said the idea before was laudable and wholly in keeping with the ideas of SCD, BUT, and we should have seen it coming just from what has happened in previous years.

Many can claim, this year alone, the judges are biased, the beeb are desperate to keep Emma, the GBP are a bunch of muppets and couldn't spot a good ballroom routine if it smacked them with a frying pan, Brendan is either pushing the boundaries, is passionate about ballroom dancing, breaks the rules or is a complete prat, Tess's dresses are awful. Jan took it too seriously and, if the gutter press is to be believed (yeah right) her husband should be up for assault, Arlene is embarrassing herself (again), Craig tries to be cruel and Bruno needs to cut down on the caffeine.

<Deep Breath> Georgina couldn't dance, her partner got close to abusive, Spoony was robbed, the music is c**p, some still think Bruce is too old (fools the lot of them), Ian Waite got a lousy celeb and even Len has blotted his copy book for being fair. The marks are wildly varied and often bare no relation to the comments, and then Mark and Karen got their wires crossed.

IS IT ANY WONDER the forum is not a nice fluffy, pink place? (well it is still pink).

With all that going on it shows how dedicated we are that we still watch, heck I'd rather war broke out on here and we kept watching SCD than we got so frustrated and it meant the end of the show.

It was a nice idea, but maybe we were all being a little too optimistic in hopeing to keep things overly civilised, and way a bit of a rant keeps the blood pumping and helps you stay young.
Last edited by Hamlet77 : 08-11-2006 at 09:25

I can only lay claim to joining in with this particular opinion (emboldened - the one about the music) (although I have to say - I loathe the material out of which Tess's dresses are being made this year. It does absolutely nothing for her!). As someone who used to design clothes (only in an amateur fashion although I was offered a job at a fashion house!) I could do better with my eyes closed ... )

Cally's mum,
completely off the subject of SCD here, but if this web site interests you please sign. It probably won't make any difference but one thing is sure, we certainly won't make a difference by doing nothing! http://www.animalsmatter.org
Rita

Thanks, rita1

Personally I think the it's fine for the discussion threads to get heated - after all people are bound to become quite passionate when defending their point of view. As long as the replies don't become personal attacks on a particular poster I can't see anything wrong with a good debate!
I do think it's a bit unfair to come into a fan tread to slag off that particular celeb or dancer though. Surely the sole intention then is to upset or annoy people? It's easy enough to avoid the threads which, for whatever reason, you don't like.

I don't think of myself as a particularly disagreeable person (though I could be deluded), but to be honest, I don't have much to add to a thread unless my point of view differs in some way from what has gone on before. Occasionally I'll add a quick line supporting someone's point, but on the whole isn't debate and differences of opinion (politely expressed, of course!) what it's all about? Personally I have no time for the really cosy areas where people fantasise about being Anton du Bec's jock strap. Although I'm delighted that these people are able to find one another and share their thoughts, I really don't wish to join in!

[quote= Personally I have no time for the really cosy areas where people fantasise about being Anton du Bec's jock strap. Although I'm delighted that these people are able to find one another and share their thoughts, I really don't wish to join in! [/QUOTE]

Anton's jock strap! Now there's an image. Swampster, you are a star!

What a good post, Hamlet.

Not sure if you're an Anton fan or not, but if you are, I hope you have fun with it!
Last edited by The Swampster : 08-11-2006 at 10:40

I think it works both ways, sweetie, that's why it is such a gem.

Personally, I am now searching for a hypnotist (or possibly an exorcist?) to relieve me of the image!

I don't mind the "I hate so-and-so" posts. They're just personal opinions and have no influence. Best just to ignore them. What I don't like is the name-dropping and rumours - the "I know someone who knows so and so and apparently he/she is really not a nice person", when talking about celebrities or professionals. This is hearsay. It may be true, it may be fabrication, but it DOES influence the way you think about someone. Even if you try not to let it, you always have a question mark in your mind about that person from then on. These are the posts that I find damaging.
Last edited by rita1 : 08-11-2006 at 11:03

[quote=The Swampster]Iwhere people fantasise about being Anton du Bec's jock strap. [quote]

///// SHUDDER!!///// and to think I read this so close to lunch.....