ok has anyone noticed that the jive isn't down on the list of dances this year or am i just slow no jive which i will miss i like the jive but i suppose it is quite difficult ! so i guess its th jitterbug here we come

oh no! Jive is 1 of the best dances r u sure that they're not dancing it Ooooooooooooooooh Nooooooooooooo!

Im pretty sure they will be doing the jive -in fact, I think week 3 is jive and tango. I know Georgina has made comments about practising the jive so dont worry! Must be a mistake

oh ok thanks

it definately says jitterbug on the strictly website, with no mention of the jive, it has 12 dances there 1 for each week, so maybe they have dropped the jive.

How can they replace jive with jitterbug???? hmmm.... I can understand them adding jitterbug.. but they can't replace one of the standard Latin dances with it

If I read right.. I think Karen is supposed to be choreographing the professional Jive cabaret this week.. so perhaps the website just hasn't listed Jive by mistake.

I think they haven't listed all the dances. They have listed 12, but, for example, one of them is the Mambo. We know that was only a show dance, and presumably the men aren't doing another show Mambo, soI think there must be at least one more that isn't in the list. And I think in the final few weeks the couples have to dance 2 dances.

I'm really disappointed if they have taken the Jive out of the line-up .

I've justed started taking lessons and I'm loving it , and I was looking forward to see how it really should be done.

Jive is definitely still in - it's in the press release as being one of week 3's dances.

I'm absolutely certain that they'd never take out any of the proper Ballroom dances and replace them with other things.

I am looking forward to seeing this tonight!

Does anyone know the difference between the jive jitterbug and lindy hop ?

I love watching the first two performed but dislike the lindy hop but can`t work out why.

I have done Lindy Hop and jitterbug workshops, and I could probably recognise the difference between them, but I'm finding it very hard to explain. There are far more similarities than there are differences.

If I remember right, the Lindy Hop was the earlier dance, and was a black street dance, evolving in Harlem. The jitterbug evolved from that, and became popular with white teenagers and GIs etc, and was therefore cleaned up a bit.

I know that the jitterbug hold is more upright and a bit further apart than the Lindy hold, which is very close, and has more bent knees and a more bent overy posture, needed for the acrobatics which the jitterbug doesn't have as much of.

Edit: I've just double checked, and rhythm is also a key thing - Lindy is danced to a fast 8 beat rhythm, whereas jive and jitterbug is usually on a 6 beat, apparently. Another difference is that the Lindy is usually slotted (straight in and out moves) whereas the jive and the jitterbug are more usually circular (dancers can move out in any direction)

Oh, and the ballroom version of the jive is a very different dance to the authentic original jive - it's all based on the same things, but it's been ballroomed up. One big difference is the wearing of heels in a ballroom jive, and the vital flat shoes in an authentic jive.

It's not just you, Tissy!!

Thanks Elanor for the explanations, making much more sense now

No problem. I'm sure someone with more knowledge can come along and correct me if I'm wrong.

I am so excited about the jitterbug though - I love the jive/swing/lindy/charleston type dances.

Thanks for that Elanor, really informative. I'm so looking forward to the jitterbug, which I presume we'll see tomorrow on the results show

I had a look on Wikipedia and here is the link.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitterbug

I had a look on Wikipedia and here is the link.Jitterbug

That was more or less spot on Elanor - When new student teachers at the school are preparing their theory on the dances I always refer them to this site
http://www.modernjive.com/history/history2.html which gives a rundown on the swing based dances from the lindyhop with some nice pics (think there is one of Ian and Camilla and Vincent and Flavia amongst them)

Thanks

Yay! I'm glad I wasn't talking rubbish. I've only managed to get to a couple of lindy and jitterbug classes (there's nothing fun where I live) so it's good to know I did remember something. Thanks for the link, Bendymixer.

Authentic Jive?

Do you mean Lindy or Jitterbug?

There isn't really an "authentic jive" dance - there's ballroom jive, and modern jive of course, but no "jive" by itself.

Well, I meant the authentic dances that some people think of as jive/rock n roll etc. Not a Jive as such.