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Old 13-10-2006, 21:26
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Is there anyone in this series who could challenge the likes of kelly clarkson and carrie underwood?
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Old 13-10-2006, 21:30
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Wheelchair girl...lol.
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Old 13-10-2006, 21:32
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Originally Posted by SteveOwen
Wheelchair girl...lol.
she is called kerry not wheelchair girl that is as bad as being racist.
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Old 13-10-2006, 21:35
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Originally Posted by SteveOwen
Wheelchair girl...lol.
Do you find that funny? Some people seriously disgust me! Yes she may not be the most talented singer but she has a name and referring to her as 'wheelchair girl' and thinking it's funny is seriously sad!

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Old 13-10-2006, 21:36
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Oh and btw, I think Leona could challenge them, not too sure about the others.
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Old 13-10-2006, 21:42
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Its all about what happens after the show, american idol winners always make better albums and thats why they do so well.


Although Kelly clarkson became as sucesful as she has thanks to totally taking control of her sound and not letting herself be pushed into doing material that she didnt want to, i think leona probobly has the best chance of doing what she has.
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Old 13-10-2006, 21:43
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Of all the people we have seen on Xfactor/Pop Idol then Leona would be the only one who would give them any competition.
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:06
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Leona is overrated. Every time we have seen her perform (her first audition, all through bootcamp etc) Simon has said after that she was off the melody. She's good, but I think she's someone who just likes to do the high notes all of the time. Her final performance for Simon at bootcamp was awful, in my opinion. She sung Mariah Carrey's 'Without You', and she sung it so low at the start that I was actually cringing when watching. I think Nikita is much, much better.
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:25
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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy
Leona is overrated. Every time we have seen her perform (her first audition, all through bootcamp etc) Simon has said after that she was off the melody. She's good, but I think she's someone who just likes to do the high notes all of the time. Her final performance for Simon at bootcamp was awful, in my opinion. She sung Mariah Carrey's 'Without You', and she sung it so low at the start that I was actually cringing when watching. I think Nikita is much, much better.


I dont really think we can really compare them as there voices are very different and there both good in different ways, but the only time both girls have been asked to sing the same song it was very obvious who was the best.


'without you' is a ridiculasly hard song to sing, it starts off so low those notes are pretty much out of every singers range
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:26
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Originally Posted by GREATGUY
I dont really think we can really compare them as there voices are very different and there both good in different ways, but the only time both girls have been asked to sing the same song it was very obvious who was the best.


'without you' is a ridiculasly hard song to sing, it starts off so low those notes are pretty much out of every singers range
When were they both asked to sing the same song?
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:37
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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy
When were they both asked to sing the same song?
Hero by Mariah Carey in the bootcamp stages.

Even Simon commented on how much stronger Leona was.
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:38
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They both sang 'hero' at bootcamp before getting into the top 8.

Im trying to find it on youtube to show you what i mean, but my computer is running really slow
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Old 13-10-2006, 22:42
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Why compare? America is a large Country with a vast amount of talent in different ways and forms. We know our lot in this Country and I think they're as good as they can be, with room for improve over the next coming months.
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Old 13-10-2006, 23:08
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Here is the video http://youtube.com/watch?v=CA-KBW9aGzU I like them both but I think Leona is way better vocally.
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Old 14-10-2006, 00:20
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Am I the only person that can't stand Kelly Clarkson?

I'd buy a Will Young single over hers any day....and I'm not a fan of his either.
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Old 14-10-2006, 00:51
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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy
She sung Mariah Carrey's 'Without You'
To be pedantic, it is actually Harry Nilson that song without you first not Mariah Carey.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:02
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No way. Atleast with AI people stood out..

Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Hicks and Carrie Underwood are amazing compared to the rubbish we have on The X Factor!

I give this XF winner also a year before they fade away...Steve Brookstein...Shayne Ward.....
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:24
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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy
Leona is overrated. Every time we have seen her perform (her first audition, all through bootcamp etc) Simon has said after that she was off the melody. She's good, but I think she's someone who just likes to do the high notes all of the time. Her final performance for Simon at bootcamp was awful, in my opinion. She sung Mariah Carrey's 'Without You', and she sung it so low at the start that I was actually cringing when watching. I think Nikita is much, much better.
I agree. Leona is all vocal gymnastics without the 'feeling'. Can't stand Mariah copy cats.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:28
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I think some of the AI winners have been dire. The one thing about them is that the American public will support them no matter what they produce. People are 100 times more obsessed with the show over there than we are here with the X-Factor. The show`s audience displays tremendous loyalty to the winners - and even sometimes the runners up.

It would have to be a truly exceptional singer who could gain lasting success on our X-Factor. The type of singer who could succeed without appearing on it. The audience loyalty isn`t there beyond the first single and album IMHO.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:31
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Kurt Nilsen (and I say this every year) was still, IMO, the best of the Idols (that I've heard). Two albums later and waiting for the third.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:32
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Originally Posted by kyri
I give this XF winner also a year before they fade away...Steve Brookstein...Shayne Ward.....
Not a big fan of Shayne but hasn't his album got #1 in Europe and Asia? If so i think he's doing rather well.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:34
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Originally Posted by ZipGypsy
Kurt Nilsen (and I say this every year) was still, IMO, the best of the Idols (that I've heard). Two albums later and waiting for the third.

That brings back memories of the truly Gawd awful World Idol.
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Old 14-10-2006, 10:46
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Originally Posted by geraniums
That brings back memories of the truly Gawd awful World Idol.
Yes, but without it...I'd never have found Kurt.
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Old 14-10-2006, 11:56
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Originally Posted by kyri
No way. Atleast with AI people stood out..

Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Hicks and Carrie Underwood are amazing compared to the rubbish we have on The X Factor!

I give this XF winner also a year before they fade away...Steve Brookstein...Shayne Ward.....
i have to say i don't like any of those american artists - and i'm horrified if you're telling me that that Taylor Hicks won! didn't like carrie at all, not saying she souldn't sing just that i really don't like that style/voice type; Hicks looked like a joke to me, embarrassing, and Clarkson - well, she's making money but she doesn't move me at all - not one jot. i DO think Will Young (and yes, not x-factor i do know but this country's talent nonetheless) knocks the socks off al of them; brookstein - i liked him loads but maybe it's something to do with his attitude in the business that's meant he doesn't do as well as he would with the backing the others received. don't know what he did to upset Mrs O but she has influence in the industry and maybe got a lot of doors closed to him. who knows? not me. As for Shayne, i think his potential's been entirely wastd with teh rubbish his producers or manager or whoever has forced him to release. he needs modern, edgy, grittier material to bring out the best in his voice - NOT the dollops of over-sweet, lardy, yuk dismal rubbish he has been given. they're killing him off when he could be so good!
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Old 14-10-2006, 14:36
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Am I the only person that can't stand Kelly Clarkson?

I'd buy a Will Young single over hers any day....and I'm not a fan of his either.
Plenty of people don't like Kelly Clarkson, as with anyone else, but sales of her last album have made her a world star, something Will and certainly no one else on reality tv here has managed.
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