Thank goodness it wasn't just me and Mr AK that thought that, I thought Claire looked extremely clumsey throughout, and the lifts just looked wrong, and throw in for the sake of it, not graceful at all

Maybe you are right - I wouldn't know and assumed the four judges know what they are talking about. However, it could be that in week 2 and with a slightly older contestant it could take longer to perfect moves. In any case, theirs was, for me, the most exciting and passionate dance of the evening and the one I enjoyed the most. Perhaps the judges were looking at the complete picture and how the essence of the dance was captured. I'm sure theirs is the performance that sticks most in people's minds and would still do so even without the lifts.

[quote=Doghouse Riley]Mica was bound to go out.

Far too over-weight, don't buy the "six month old baby" excuse. She was that big in "The Sound of Musicals" a year ago. Maybe a lot more than "One Temptation" too many in her fridge?


What are you the fat police? It's perfectly possible to still carry baby weight after 4 months.
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Does anyone else think Emma froze at the end of her quickstep and thats why it seemed a bit odd at the end? Cant See Darren choreographing that bit in.
Loved them -9 was maybe a bit over the top but thats Bruno for you. Def the best qs of the night -fabulous routine by Darren.

She went into the backward bend much too harshly -not sure how claire is going to cope with a dance where she doesnt ham it up and act sexy. Do like this couple -just didint rate the 'smouldering'performance (dont shout at me, everyone! )

[quote=BilliY]
True, but if you're gonna do a bit of ballroom dancing in a competition on TV, it doesn't help if the perception of you by the viewing public who are judging the performances, is somewhat like this.

http://www.alexander-gallery.co.uk/a...0Bar%20Sur.jpg

My favourite of the night was Emma and Darren although I also thought she had ballsed up the ending and Darren had hastily whispered to her to wiggle her shoulders to try and salvage it as it didn't seem to go with the rest of the dance for me. The rest of it though had me smiling all the way through.

I didn't like Claire and Brendan's rumba AT ALL, with or without the lifts. I thought brendan looked like he was dragging her but as Claire is confident it wasn't compared to Fiona.

I actually liked Georgina's rumba. Fair enough, her hips were poor and there wasn't a huge amount of steps but when the camera panned in to her face, she was actually acting the dance and she had some lovely lines.

I didn't like the boys group dance at all and I know Erin is a ballroom dancer but I always think her latin is embarrassing for a professional.

I enjoyed the professional jive and although I read Karen choreographed it, it was strikingly similar to one used in Dancing with the Stars.

I'm looking forward to next week when all of the couples dance.

I notice Doghouse did not answer my question as to whether he/she dances or knows anything about technique, which speaks volumes. emmas footwork was excellent as was her stance, hold and overall technique. They were outstanding (I believe the definition of outstanding is "better than the rest"). Whether you like her or not, and obviously not everyone on this thread are her supporters, if you dance you cannot fail to spot that. Most people on this thread have agreed that she was good, whether they like her or not.

Where my loyalties lie is irrelevant. It does not stop me spotting a good, mediocre or poor performance if that is what it is, and if Emmas performance had been poor I would have said so. I judge ballroom and latin competitions, and I am used to having to remain neutral and constructive about a performance, whatever I think of the personalities. However, I would not resort to personal abuse under any circumstances, either of the celebrities or professional dancers. It is unfortunate that on every thread someone has to resort to this level. Perhaps they are unable to express themselves in any constructive or positive way without doing so, which spoils it for everyone else, which is very unfortunate. Can you not be more constructive in the points you try to make??

Can't you not worry about other contributors' points of view and ignore them if they don't suit yours?

watched it again today!! and think emma and darren were quiet poor and lousia was a lot better!!

judges got loads wrong last night!!

claire and brendan allthough the illegal lifts! they took too many marks off its supposed to be one for each lift!

and the person who made the comment about mica paris weight! better run for cover!! totally out of line! and i aint gonna dignify it with a retort back as id get booted for posting it!!

There was never a rule that said one mark was to be taken off for a lift. I think they deserved more taken off as just one wouldn't have been bad enough to discourage him from doing it again, which was important as it is very unfair to use them in the routine.

Don't think you really have a point of view Doghouse. You haven't said who you like, who you support, whether you dance or anything constructive at all. Think we should all ignore your infantile posts, until you learn not to be offensive! (could be a long wait I fear!)

Give me a break!

I've posted my opinion and I don't need you teach me anything.

I certainly wouldn't criticise someone for having a different opinion from mine.
It doesn't mean to say either of us are right, regardless of all your protestations.

As long as I'm not being offensive to you or any other contributor, my criticisms of people on TV are none of your business.
I certainly wouldn't accuse you of being "infantile," regardless of what I actually think.

You've failed to observe the first "rule" of message boards.

[quote=Doghouse Riley]

Not everyone who watches SCD is that superficial, I found Claire far more awkward in her movement than Mica who accentuates her curves well

[quote=BilliY]
I quite like Mica Paris as a singer. Give her the right song and she's fine.

As I've said before I suspect she's no different in height or weight than she was a year ago in "The Sound of Musicals."

I make no apologies for saying that in the dress last night she reminded me of a character in a Beryl Cook painting.
So why was someone of her height and weight selected for this competition, given the endless number of fading
celebrities and presenters who'd be more than willing?

You can never accuse the BBC of being daft and those appearing willl be as randomly selected as were "The Village People."

Mica Paris is employed by the BBC in a number of roles particularly in her "What Not to Wear" programme, (Yeah! I won't say she should have followed her own advice).

I'd suggest that some "suit" at the BBC decided on her inclusion ,as it would help increase her profile and wouldn't do her programme's ratings any harm either.

That was my immediate thought when I heard the music that it was aiming for the DWTS routine.(I assume it's the Rebel Yell one you're talking about)
IMO it didn't at all capture the whole young and rebellious feeling that DWTS did absolutely perfectly.


Yes, you put into words what I was thinking about the dance. I think the overdone passion and messy and needless lifts were thrown in to detract from and otherwise average perfomance.
I think her weaknesses will become more apparent as the weeks go by, unless Brendan again tries to be controversial

[quote=Doghouse Riley]
Why was someone of Tarbys age & weight selected, why was someone with ears as big as Matt Dawson selected, why was someone as tall as peter schmeichel selected, why was someone as old as Claire King selected?

Perhaps there should be some sort of ruling, only celebrities between the ages of 17 & 30 weighing between 7 & 9 stone should be allowed on TV. How distressing for a TV audience to see people that don't fit into that catergory on TV.

Its not superstars, it's a celebrity dance programme for goodness sake.

I think you'll find that the majority of people on the show are there to raise their profile, not just Mica.

[quote=BilliY]
Dunno!
I give up, Why?


Why not suggest it?


Never said it wasn't, did I?





Err.. I did mention .. "the endless number of fading
celebrities and presenters who'd be more than willing."
You can draw your own conclusions why certain other people were selected, I'm not particularly bothered.



But why is it necessary to quote extreme examples to try to get a point across?
Do you think I'm impressed?

I've not commented on anyone other than the selection of
Mica Paris, in that particular post

I've only suggested why I think she was there, as someone "had a go at me" because I thought she was not a good choice and I predicted last week she'd be the first female to go out, based on her appearance and performance in rehearsals shown on SCD T2. Others who bothered to vote, obviously agree.

You can draw your own conclusions why certain other people were selected, I'm not particularly bothered.

The BBC has always selected a "mixed bag." That's why I used the "Village People" analogy.

I'm alway amused by people who "rush to the defence" of people on TV, do you think they really care?

On the subject of Jimmy Tarbuck, I'd be surprised if he returns, it's a strenuous enough activity for even reasonably fit and healthy contestants.

[quote=Doghouse Riley]
I'm always amused by people that portray themselves as being mean when they are probably not just to try & antagonise people.

Perhaps it's the rise of the Simon Cowell type celeb.

I'm not rushing to the defence of a TV person, I'm defending civilised behaviour - criticising peoples weight is lame & in this case not really relevant.
No i'm not overweight myself before you suggest it.

But in this context it was a reasonable criticism, in my opinion. Did you see her in that bright blue outfit?
As I said before she looked like a "Beryl Cook character."

I jokingly criticised Gloria Honeyford last year, for wearing something that "resembled her diningroom curtains."
But at least she'd recognised that "big women" don't look right in skimpy outfits.

As for making personal remarks about posters, I don't.

I leave that to others, some of whom can't post an unsollicited response to a general observation, without getting "personal."

Larger ladies rarely do anything for me, but I don't understand the fuss about Mica's appearance/outfit/whatever... she's gone anyway...

Watching the repeat atm... I wish they would leave the Rumba until later in the competition when the better dancers can make something decent out of it (assuming that the poorer dancers get voted off of course!); watching people who are still trying to master the basics AND act (even if they are actors) make a complete hash of it is painful.