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Hopefully there will be a Cliff Richard night
Imagine the old classics they could sing ..
Living Doll Please Don't Tease I Love You A Girl Like You The Young Ones Bachelor Boy Summer Holiday Congratulations Devil Woman We Don't Talk Anymore Mistletoe & Wine And even The Millennium Prayer. |
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Imagine the old classics they could sing ..
Living Doll Please Don't Tease I Love You A Girl Like You The Young Ones Bachelor Boy Summer Holiday Congratulations Devil Woman We Don't Talk Anymore Mistletoe & Wine And even The Millennium Prayer. |
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For Cliffs sake,how could you forget WIRED FOR SOUND???
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For Cliffs sake,how could you forget WIRED FOR SOUND???
my first thought too ...."I like tall speakers, I like small speakers"
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why do these contestants have to sing such dated material though? since these guys are aiming to break the POP charts (pop being CURRENT popular music), why aren't they giving them far more modern songs? maybe the show'd attract a better, more innovative type of contestant and more viewers who'll go out and purchase their final releases.
let's be honest, how many 14-20 year-old pop-music purchasers are interested in Cliff, Rod Stewart, even the likes of Lionel RIchie? for them, OLD stuff means things like Pink Floyd, OMD, Slade for heaven's sake! lol. maybe Rod kinda scrapes in there, but Cliff? do me a favour and yeah, i KNOW it's not just that demographic that watches the show - of course not! but why waste all the newer greats that have and are influencing current pop trends for the sake of dragging on these same old almost mummified artistes of not just 1 by-gone era, but several?
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Originally Posted by Binyamin
Imagine the old classics they could sing ..
Living Doll Please Don't Tease I Love You A Girl Like You The Young Ones Bachelor Boy Summer Holiday Congratulations Devil Woman We Don't Talk Anymore Mistletoe & Wine And even The Millennium Prayer. |
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why do these contestants have to sing such dated material though? since these guys are aiming to break the POP charts (pop being CURRENT popular music), why aren't they giving them far more modern songs? maybe the show'd attract a better, more innovative type of contestant and more viewers who'll go out and purchase their final releases.
let's be honest, how many 14-20 year-old pop-music purchasers are interested in Cliff, Rod Stewart, even the likes of Lionel RIchie? for them, OLD stuff means things like Pink Floyd, OMD, Slade for heaven's sake! lol. maybe Rod kinda scrapes in there, but Cliff? do me a favour and yeah, i KNOW it's not just that demographic that watches the show - of course not! but why waste all the newer greats that have and are influencing current pop trends for the sake of dragging on these same old almost mummified artistes of not just 1 by-gone era, but several?Everything is geared up to getting the viewers (possible voters) to tune in, they do not give a flying fig who votes every week come what may, they are also after the casual viewers that tune in to hear music from their favourite genre too. Its also quite nice to hear some different music other than the white trash Christina A and ghetto ho R&B stuff thats rammed down our throats at every turn
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Everything is geared up to getting the viewers (possible voters) to tune in, they do not give a flying fig who votes every week come what may, they are also after the casual viewers that tune in to hear music from their favourite genre too.
Its also quite nice to hear some different music other than the white trash Christina A and ghetto ho R&B stuff thats rammed down our throats at every turn ![]() there has to be people watching the show who find Radiohead fantastic, remember Depeche Mode, love Cold PLay, relish the Killers, Kaiser Chief and more... seems to be the format using such very very old material (even though there may be some fond memories of it and it has a deserved place in the history of pop culture) is a bit like if i tuned in to a show as a teenager to hear young kids in the late sixties singing something more akin to The Black and White Minstrel Show! as for Christina Aguilera - she's a far better role model vocally than flamin' Mariah Carey who bores the pants off me :sleep: what about hearing some of these kids tackle something by The Black-Eyed Peas? or Gwen Stephanie? the reason, imo, that Shayne did so well the other year was because he LOOKED and SOUNDED far more modern than most the other acts. he was, without too much stretch of the imagination, current. just like Ashley, just like Anthony and the others of Eton Rd, and like the two black brothers who got the boot before the live finals. |
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but it's all so OLD!
there has to be people watching the show who find Radiohead fantastic, remember Depeche Mode, love Cold PLay, relish the Killers, Kaiser Chief and more... seems to be the format using such very very old material (even though there may be some fond memories of it and it has a deserved place in the history of pop culture) is a bit like if i tuned in to a show as a teenager to hear young kids in the late sixties singing something more akin to The Black and White Minstrel Show! as for Christina Aguilera - she's a far better role model vocally than flamin' Mariah Carey who bores the pants off me :sleep: what about hearing some of these kids tackle something by The Black-Eyed Peas? or Gwen Stephanie? the reason, imo, that Shayne did so well the other year was because he LOOKED and SOUNDED far more modern than most the other acts. he was, without too much stretch of the imagination, current. just like Ashley, just like Anthony and the others of Eton Rd, and like the two black brothers who got the boot before the live finals. I wouldnt worry, another Shayne will more likely be born by the predominant vote, no matter what genre thay sing. |
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Originally Posted by solaris1
why do these contestants have to sing such dated material though? since these guys are aiming to break the POP charts (pop being CURRENT popular music), why aren't they giving them far more modern songs? maybe the show'd attract a better, more innovative type of contestant and more viewers who'll go out and purchase their final releases.
let's be honest, how many 14-20 year-old pop-music purchasers are interested in Cliff, Rod Stewart, even the likes of Lionel RIchie? for them, OLD stuff means things like Pink Floyd, OMD, Slade for heaven's sake! lol. maybe Rod kinda scrapes in there, but Cliff? do me a favour and yeah, i KNOW it's not just that demographic that watches the show - of course not! but why waste all the newer greats that have and are influencing current pop trends for the sake of dragging on these same old almost mummified artistes of not just 1 by-gone era, but several?Simon's always complaining to Louis that he gets the young ones singing old songs, but next weeks theme is Rod Stewarts American songbook where the average age of the song is 60 years old!! Maybe they don't have to pay royalties on songs that have been in circulation for 30 years |
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Completely agree with Solaris1's comments. I turned off after Ray because I could not bear to sit through the ancient relics that were being sung.
The studio part is the worst part of X Factor for me because the songs are so boring, I wish they'd change the forumla. I could imgaine Leona singing Beyonce but that'll never happen. There's so much great new music around at the moment, but X Factor is stuck in a time warp, they seem intent on making young people sing songs that are at least twice their age. |
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I agree, I couldn't stand Cliff the first time round, he was always considered pretty naff by anyone who actually liked music.
Simon's always complaining to Louis that he gets the young ones singing old songs, but next weeks theme is Rod Stewarts American songbook where the average age of the song is 60 years old!! Maybe they don't have to pay royalties on songs that have been in circulation for 30 years He did this on American Idol and I remember thinking at the time that Rod was a damp squib with nothing more innovative to give. The Classic American Songbook FFS! When the Rolling Stones issue something like "Stones sing Gershwin" then I`ll know it`s time they quit rock `n roll. |
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He did this on American Idol and I remember thinking at the time that Rod was a damp squib with nothing more innovative to give. The Classic American Songbook FFS!
When the Rolling Stones issue something like "Stones sing Gershwin" then I`ll know it`s time they quit rock `n roll. Exactly! I hate it when people like Robbie Williams do 'swing'.....It's not like they're improving on the originals and it just sounds wrong. At least the Stones still do their own stuff and write new music.I dread to think what theme they'll do the following week - probably Bee Geees hits or something equally undoable. |
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But, not everyone watching the show is under 25, while it MAY have been originally aimed at the youth vote, the show has evolved into a bigger beast and crosses more age boundaries.
I wouldnt worry, another Shayne will more likely be born by the predominant vote, no matter what genre thay sing. oh i realise that the age group varies wildly - but it's a shame the age of the songs they're having to perform doesn't! and i'm 47, and listen to Radiohead, ColdPlay, and most the music out today... just because you're over 25 doesn't mean you have to get stuck back in the eighties or even earlier with your musical tastes, surely? i agree with the poster who mention royalies... i rather think that might have a whole damned lot to do with it all
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X-Factor is a television programme produced by ITV.
It is shown on a Saturday night - early evening. The programme is aimed at the majority of viewers who watch that time slot. Or the viewers they wish to entice to that time slot. Please don't fall for the frequently misquoted rumour that this is in any way a talent show!!!!!! It is a money spinning production from ITV, pure and simple!!!! They aim for the highest audience possible, and persuade advertisers to pay ridiculous prices for this prime time slot. The music sung by the participants is designed to attract the biggest percentage of the available viewing audience for that time slot. An added extra is the revenues from phone voting. The Great British Public are easily persuaded to part with their money. A useful bi-product of this production is an arena tour for some of the acts who reach the final stages. Another money spinning venture. And finally, there may be a short lived music career for one or more of the finalists. Yet another money spinning venture which produces money for ITV and Simon Cowell. BUT X-FACTOR IS NOT A TALENT SHOW!!!!!! Last edited by Arnostae's Mum : 16-10-2006 at 17:29. |
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X-Factor is a television programme produced by ITV.
It is shown on a Saturday night - early evening. The programme is aimed at the majority of viewers who watch that time slot. Or the viewers they wish to entice to that time slot. Please don't fall for the frequently misquoted rumour that this is in any way a talent show!!!!!! It is a money spinning production from ITV, pure and simple!!!! They aim for the highest audience possible, and persuade advertisers to pay ridiculous prices for this prime time slot. The music sung by the participants is designed to attract the biggest percentage of the available viewing audience for that time slot. An added extra is the revenues from phone voting. The Great British Public are easily persuaded to part with their money. A useful bi-product of this production is an arena tour for some of the acts who reach the final stages. Another money spinning venture. And finally, there may be a short lived music career for one or more of the finalists. Yet another money spinning venture which produces money for ITV and Simon Cowell. BUT X-FACTOR IS NOT A TALENT SHOW!!!!!!
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Completely agree with Solaris1's comments. I turned off after Ray because I could not bear to sit through the ancient relics that were being sung.
The studio part is the worst part of X Factor for me because the songs are so boring, I wish they'd change the forumla. I could imgaine Leona singing Beyonce but that'll never happen. There's so much great new music around at the moment, but X Factor is stuck in a time warp, they seem intent on making young people sing songs that are at least twice their age. |
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no!!! cliff richard is atrocious! i am far happier watching him judge cakes on ant & dec.
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why do these contestants have to sing such dated material though? since these guys are aiming to break the POP charts (pop being CURRENT popular music), why aren't they giving them far more modern songs? maybe the show'd attract a better, more innovative type of contestant and more viewers who'll go out and purchase their final releases.
let's be honest, how many 14-20 year-old pop-music purchasers are interested in Cliff, Rod Stewart, even the likes of Lionel RIchie? for them, OLD stuff means things like Pink Floyd, OMD, Slade for heaven's sake! lol. maybe Rod kinda scrapes in there, but Cliff? do me a favour and yeah, i KNOW it's not just that demographic that watches the show - of course not! but why waste all the newer greats that have and are influencing current pop trends for the sake of dragging on these same old almost mummified artistes of not just 1 by-gone era, but several? |
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They are quite simply trying to get the more middle to old aged age group interested, so it broadens their viewing figures further. It's following in the exact same over commercialised footstep tradition of American Idol :yawn: I just pray to god we don't end up with an act as boring, talentless and average as Taylor Hick’s, winning it.
Taylor Hicks do me a favour once the rocker guy with the shaved head and gorgeous eyes went out i gave up watching... and Kerry Underwood? sure she can sing but it's like TIME WARP back to the sticks
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Wish there had been a theme night for the first series.
I think we'd have seen somebody else winning. One trick ponies would have been exposed
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i think they need to re-evaluate just what most 30-60 year olds are listening to nowadays - they're proper out of touch, unless it's just London i'm dealing with here? nah, can't be, i have friends across the Isles and most the parents are listening to a lot of what the kids are too.
Taylor Hicks do me a favour once the rocker guy with the shaved head and gorgeous eyes went out i gave up watching... and Kerry Underwood? sure she can sing but it's like TIME WARP back to the sticksAgreed (especially about the shaved headed guy) Kelly Clarkson's the only one to have come out of it with a career in pop. And as I remember it, she seems like a totally different singer than she did on the show. |
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I do think that they ought to bring in some more modern music, album sales reached record levels only two years ago, and remain high. Millions listen to Chris Moyles every morning playing modern music, even Terry Wogan plays some (not so much hip hop though!!).
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Agreed (especially about the shaved headed guy) Kelly Clarkson's the only one to have come out of it with a career in pop. And as I remember it, she seems like a totally different singer than she did on the show.
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The thing is, there are few modern songs that could be sung on the show. They just don't make that many great songs anymore
. I suppose Ben could maybe get away with singing James Blunt, but thats it.
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and yeah, i KNOW it's not just that demographic that watches the show - of course not! but why waste all the newer greats that have and are influencing current pop trends for the sake of dragging on these same old almost mummified artistes of not just 1 by-gone era, but several?
once the rocker guy with the shaved head and gorgeous eyes went out i gave up watching... and Kerry Underwood? sure she can sing but it's like TIME WARP back to the sticks