I've never watched UFC so forgive my possible ignorance.. but it looks to me like Ronda's right foot slipped on the canvas and the actual KO kick occurs as she's getting back up from the slip/loss of balance with her back turned to her opponent. Is that fair game in UFC? I'm guessing it is. But I suppose what I'm saying is it looks like a bit of a cheap shot rather than a well executed KO.

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Dont think Rousey will be wanting a return in a hurry after that beating

Now that's what I call a kick to the head.

*BOOM*

Nighty night, Ronda Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Lol and this fighter said she wants to do boxing. Rousey would get ruined in a boxing ring.

Is is true she has broken her jaw in 3 places?

This can now go one of two ways, this could make her even more determined to get the title back, or she has exposed her weaknesses to the rest of the division for them to take advantage of when she returns.

A very key period in her career I think it is now.

She was totally outclassed in every department. She was pooped after 1 round. I don't think she could even win a re-match.

That has to be one of the worst performances from a champion ever, if you had never seen UFC before you would think Rousey was an amateur.

She was rushing, she didnt change her game plan even after the 4th or 5th time of being hit in the face, she still rushed in, got close, got hit in the face, and did the same for the whole first round. You could see at the end of the first and beginning of the second round, she was exhausted, and the knockout was brutal, its going to be hard to come back from this.

Full credit to Holly Holm, she didnt really have to get out of first gear for that win, waited patiently for Rousey to rush in and put her face on the end of Holms fist.

I still can't believe how bad Rousey was, rushing in with no thinking,, exhausted after a couple of minutes, just poor stuff from a champion. I think the only way she can come back is keep to her judo style and arm bar finishes and submissions, stop thinking you are invincible and can stand up and box because that was a huge lesson in showing that she can't box.

I can't believe how unfit she looked. She didn't take her opponent seriously at all. The celebrity lifestyle obviously more important to her these days. I guess she will pursue an acting career now.

Yep,, i can't believe how bloated she looked, it didnt look like muscle, it looked like puppy fat.

She seems intent on trying to bulk up and become great at the stand up game, that she has completely forgotten what skills made her champion.

As you say, it looks now that she probably wasnt training properly or with a game plan, she just underestimated Holly Holm

Holms height and reach advantage were too much for her. Her footwork was very impressive also. She was even able to power out of Rouseys armbar attempt easily. Can't see her winning a re-match.

Rousey has really bad technique throwing punches.

1. Yes it is fair game.
2.Holmto my memory, only tried one head kick in the entire match.
3. If you notice Holm WAITS until the perfect distance and blam-o.

Holm's entire fight, including the head kick KO was as well executed gameplan you ever will see.As for "cheap" nothing could be further from the fact. It was flush on the chin, as opposed to a less composed fighter might have tried to kick Rousey when she was grounded, or punch her in the back of the head.

There also used to be a time where grappling was "cheap". Or kicking. If an opponent can not defend themselves intelligently, they are going down.

Rousey humiliated herself in there, slipping and falling all over the place. Celebrity lifestyle and believing her own hype catching up with her, trying to stand and trade with a boxer when your head is a punch magnet.

Reminded me of Forest Griffin and Anderson Silva, a very weird fight.

she has - thats what makes all this rubbish talked about her as he pound found best just Laughable
after watching this fight a few more times now she was completely taken apart

as long as the new champ is around Rousey needs to be taking more tv and movie work

There has been some dubious claims on this thread.
1. I don't believe that Rousey's looked any different physically to her previous fights.
2. I think it's a naïve suggestion that Ronda tried to "Stand and trade" with Holm. What you see largely during the fight, is Rousey trying to run 'n' punch into the clinch, and Holm would circle out and punch Ronda as she came in and when she reset. Holm did a sterling job of avoiding the clinch, but even then there was at least two occassions where Ronda managed to get into the clinch. So saying that Rousey lost because she tried to outbox holm, ignores how Holm was able to largely nullify Ronda's Judo, and how well this was done against a top flight judoka.

Rousey doesn't shoot doubles, so if she can't effectively close the distance, she can't take Holm down. Hence why Ronda throws that left hook like she does, in much the same way Fedor would throw his right, so that even if it doesn't KO, it brings them right into the clinch and hopefully a take down.

Yes it was a bad showing, but that's because styles makes fights.

styles do make fights but Rousey would never beat Holm as long as she is around
some one else could beat Holm but it sure wont be Rousey

she is a novice with boxing skills - no balance or experience
and all this baloney about she is burned out with fighting is a joke - just been reading her statistics
in her entire career as a pro she has spent a grand total of 30 minutes in the ring

and as an amateur a grand total of 1 minute 44 seconds

figures which make her the greatest and claims she would knock Floyd Mayweather out in one round are just ludicrous

how on earth she has become the highest paid UFC fighter in history both male and female is beyond me

That's an awfully brave statement given that Holm didn't avoid the clinch entirely in the fight, got clocked, did get thrown and had to be very quick and smart to avoid being armbarred.


I think you might want to rewrite this, because it doesn't really follow your point. i.e. "A novice with boxing skills" - and then you say she's got no boxing skills. Did you mean she's a novice when it comes to boxing? Too true - most MMA fighters are.


Errrrm, it might be baloney that Rousey is "burnt out" but you're certainly not looking at it from the right angle as time in the ring is just one indicator. In just 4 years or so Rousey has had 13 fights. Each fight will require a training camp, which could be anywhere from 6-12 weeks. So lets take an average of 9 weeks of training 3 times a day intensively to improve skills, practice tactics, spar, S&C, all on a restricted diet. During the last week, you also have to dehydrate yourself severely in order to make weight, a practice which as you age gets progressively harder and more unpleasant.

So that works out over the last four years, Ronda has probably spent over 2 1/4 years either fighting, or training to fight. The other 1 3/4 years is either spent promoting Strikeforce/UFC, sponsorship commitments, leading to a small amount of time where Ronda is probably still training 5 days a week, 2 times a day.

Jon Jones by contrast has had 10 fights in a similar timescale. Chris Weidman, 8 fights.
GSP - 8 fights. Which to be frank are heavy schedules in themselves.

And then we've also got to consider what came before. Rousey started Judo which by any definition is a hard sport at 11 years old. Became the youngest olympic judoka at 17, and competing as an international athlete for four years or so. So only another 10 years total, with at least four of those at the highest level of competition.

So to say that Rousey has only spent half an hour fighting, overlooks absolutely everything else which led up to it.


I think the claim was "defeat" rather than knock out. However I'd personally bear in mind that Holm is a bona-fide MMA fighter, and not Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia.


Well I would say that's a probable slightly misrepresentation by various people, but let me explain it to you.

1. UFC is bigger than ever before it would appear so obviously people like Tito, Coutre and co, would not be paid at all well by even today's standards..
2. Ronda Rousey had an devastating MMA record.
3. A good looking, arcticulate finisher has cross market appeal and it shows. Unfortunately whilst Mighty Mouse might be a fantastic fighter - nobody cares about him. Nor Robbie Lawler. Or RDA. Which is why we see GSP in the Winter Soldier, or Rousey in the expendables, but not Jose Aldo.

The UFC somewhat devoid of marketable cross market stars with GSP and BROCK LESNAR no longer in the roost, and they placed their eggs in the Ronda Rousey, Conor McGregor basket, and not Jose Aldo. And that's because they find that they sell PPVs.

If you can't see it fair enough, but to me Rhonda has bulked up considerably over the last year or so, her shoulder and bicep mass has got bigger, she has even written an article at how her body is changing because people have been saying her body is becoming too masculine.

Her walk around weight looks bigger imo, my guess is that its becoming harder for her to cut the weigh whilst adding muscle mass, at the weigh in she looked ripped, but 24 hours later her body imo looked bloated as if she had rehydrated a bit too much and her body had stored water.

I'm thinking that within the next year Dana will add a higher weight division for the women and Rousey will move up in weight.

Now its only my opinion, but to call other peoples opinions that differ to yours "Dubious claims" , is out of order tbh

It's just such a relief that she got beaten. So many fights where she overpowered and arm barred other fighters was making it so tedious. I can't deny her dominance but it was boring to watch.

I still think she is very dangerous but she just looked woefully under prepared and not taking it very seriously. I doubt the UFC are bothered, they'll make more money from her return as the defeated champ rather than the increasingly tedious fights that I hope were struggling to make dollar.

Well all I can say is that there doesn't appear to be that much change between wiegh ins.


Really? Well it's not a slight against anyone, it's just noting that the claims are dubious suspect like the following.

"I think the only way she can come back is keep to her judo style and arm bar finishes and submissions, stop thinking you are invincible and can stand up and box because that was a huge lesson in showing that she can't box."

Which appears to misunderstand things.

1. Rousey wasn't trying to outbox Holm. Every single one of her entries in the Holm fight, as with pretty much every other fight was intended to bring Rousey into the clinch - Punch and Clutch if you will. People who look at that fight and see Rousey trying to intentionally outstrike a striker - should look again and see a grappler unable to close the distance effectively.

2. Ronda should keep to her "judo style" and "arm bar finishes and submissions"... well in addition to #1 - that's exactly what Ronda was trying to do. Ronda has always bull rushed into the clinch. And up until Holm, every single fighter has obliged her. Instead of circling away, they've squared up, thrown their power hands, and then more often than not a couple of seconds, they've been thrown on their back. To quote Jack Slack - Holm used non commital jabs, oblique kicks and lateral movement which Ronda has never faced.

The "Judo Style" in it's current Olympic iteration generally revolves around getting a hold of your opponent, dropping your hips and throwing your opponent. So at the very least Ronda has to get close enough to get the headlock, Wizzer, underhooks etc, before she can even think above throwing. As it stands, there are no leg attacks in modern judo. I don't think I've seen a double or single leg takedown from Ronda and it would surprise me if she had a decent one. So Ronda needs to be hip to hip pretty much before she can throw.

And what did Holm do? jabbed her on entry, circled out, jammed Rousey's hips, grip fought, kept her wieght against the cage and hips low whenever in the clinch

Everyone has bemoaned a lack of a Plan B. It appears that the suggestion that Rousey should "go back to her roots" - which in effect was Plan A in that fight anyway. So I would actually vehemently disagree with the assertions I've constantly seen that Rousey should go back to her Judo strengths because not only does it misrepresent what Ronda actually does, but it misses one of the fundamental reasons why Rousey lost and that is an inability to cut the cage. If Rousey can't learn to cut the cage on her opponents and this will require hooks and roundhouse kicks to punish lateral movement of the opponent, as well as learning the footwork - then any opponent who follows the Holm blueprint will have a good chance of beating Rousey as she will have limited options to initiate the clinch as it stands. We're not talking Gurgel or Maia (in some instances) who despite their grappling credentials, blast it out on the feet, we should be thinking what Longo and Serra turned Chris Wiedman into.

So yes, the claims that Rousey was trying to "Stand and trade" or that effectively she should remain fundamentally one dimensional are dubious - like it or not. It's not a personal slight - but the conclusions are indeed suspect.

You do make some good points, and have good opinions, but i still think she went with the intention of proving herself as a stand up fighter, her training appears to have moved more into striking, commentators have said that she didnt like to be seen as having just one style, and i think her ego has made her try and be something she isnt, plus i think she is surrounded by yes men, Edmond Tarverdyan's advice was embarrassing at the end of round one and one that sounded like he either didnt want to tell her the truth or he was clueless and didnt see what was happening, either way i think she needs to get rid .

Her mother said the same thing before the fight. She was very critical of him.

Well like I said - the only thing different in the Holm fight was Holm form, being disciplined and patient. Commentators can say what they well, Ring can try and sell issues, Dana can promote fights. The fight was all about Ronda's poor and limited entries into the clinch and Holm with Jackson and Winkleman punishing that weakness.

Ronda didn't lose the fight because she was trying to outbox someone, she lost it because she is one dimensional. It's a fantastic one dimension, but it's still only one.


A hundred times yes. Tarverdyan is the luckiest man in the world. Every fighter who had gone to Glendale has regressed under his coaching from! Brown to Ellenburger. So definitely agree that Ronda should go else where.

now that The other vastly over rated fighter Rousey has just been totally trounced very much looking forward to seeing the same happen to Mcgregor

i can see no scenario that Aldo does not win