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#2676 |
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Really impressive win for Eddie Alvarez last night against Dos Anjos. Hit him with some huge shots.
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Got to admit I felt UFC 200 was a bit of a damp squid overall, some good bits here and there but not one of the better PPVs in its history.
Good to see Brock win, albeit via a pretty poor fight which I was expecting as both fighters were trying to either keep it standing or take it to the floor which lead to a very cagey fight. Shame about Tate losing after waiting so long in winning the belt last time out but she took a good beating. Nunes looked very good but it seems none of the women want to hold on to the belt. Cain Velasquez put himself back in the frame for a title shot for me, he looked very good but to be honest it was not hard to stand out last night. What did everyone else think of UFC 200? I would score it a 6/10 |
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#2678 |
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UFC 200 was poor imo, it just felt flat , there didnt seem to be any excitement in the crowd , i don't understand how you can put a card together for a huge event and it all falls flat because one fighter can't stop cheating. Surely for this event the card should have been stacked with title fights, so if one fight doesnt happen you still have a top class line up, Brock Lesner coming back is not a co main event imo.
Kelvin Gastelum vs Johny Hendricks was the best fight of the night imo and that was in the prelims , Valasquez looked good and deserves another title shot. Lesner looked scared to death of Hunts punches, at one stage he was dropped to a knee with just a jab, i think if Hunt would have started swinging he might have got a knockout. Aldo looked decent but i was disappointed with Edgar , i had him slight favourite tbh Gutted for Tate, i was so pleased she won the title, but she got well beaten last night. if we are going to it out of ten, i give it a 4/10 |
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#2679 |
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UFC 200 showed me that someone better needs to be Light Heavyweight champion, Cormier is such a boring fighter, I wouldn't mind him so much if he actually tried the stand up game, but all he does is wrestle to the ground, it's horrible. The same with Lesnar, except he looks beastly enough to have some power in his fists where he could do good stand up.
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#2680 |
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Well here's my own two cents on the card for anyone who cares:
Based on the star power and hype surrounding the card I have to admit I found the show somewhat underwhelming, but there was about the show which I did like and don't consider it to be the bust that a lot of people online have done. The prelims in particular were very good and I share the sentiment about the Hendicks fight being match of the night. I think one of the biggest flaws with the show as a viewer stemmed in my opinion from the match order. Having a five round Aldo fight second slowed the whole show down in my opinion, personally I would have had it as the Co-Main with Lesnar vs Hunt leading, although with the reported financial demands of Brock I understand why Dana didn't go with this. It was good to see Cain back to his best, but it's fairly safe to say Travis was not the strongest threat possible. Once again I see him as evidence of Edmond's ability to completely ruin potentially strong fighters with his methods, Ronda's success has been in spite of him rather then because of him. I've never been a big Aldo fan by any means, but I have to say I was very impressed with him during the Edgar fight. He was very shaky to start off with due to what happened with Conor, but his confidence grew throughout and by the end the win was commanding. I am disappointed though since I feel Edgar vs McGregor would have been a more entertaining fight. I had expected some sort of sympathy towards Cormier after what happened with Jones, but that was completely eliminated the moment he got that first takedown. Honestly that fight STUNK, 15 minutes of lying on the ground and with Cormier making no attempt to inject some energy into the fight. Considering I was one of many who thought Anderson was going to be fed to the wolves I think him going the distance was one of the best moments of the night, and his humility and willing to take such a short notice fight just confirms why so many consider him the greatest. Brock vs Mark underwhelmed slightly, but only in that people expected it to be a first round stoppage. The actual fight itself was exactly what I expected it to be, a straight up boxer vs wrestler battle where they who drew first blood would come out on top, and that's how it turned out. It still amazes me how fast Brock is for a heavyweight, and whilst I can't see him challenging for a title because of the WWE contract I don't think this is his last UFC fight. I personally wouldn't have put Tate vs Nunes as the main event at the start of the show, but in retrospect it worked out well, after three decisions the show needed a talking point and it got one. I knew going into the fight that Amanda's best chance of winning was to take Miesha out in the first round, but I never at any point expected her to be just as commanding as what she was. I know a lot of people like to criticise Ronda's performance against Holly in 193, but honestly I think Miesha's was even worse; she had zero significant strikes, got dominated on the ground and standing up and for someone who prides themselves on their resilience seemed to give up the moment Nunes rocked her the first time. As for Amanda's first challenge it's all going to depend on when and if Ronda comes back. If Ronda is back for MSG then Dana makes that the main event no question. If it's later then that then I can see either Holly or Pena at 203 depending on if Holly beats Shevchenko. On the whole I would say a 6 out of 10, better then 197 but a long way behind 199. |
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#2681 |
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I feel bad for the booing of Cormier. Silva is a slippery candidate but I bet there was some kind of 'don't bust up Silva' agreement and you can still get some if the purse.
When the audience want to boo someone maybe they can blame Jones for denying them the fight they wanted. Maybe they could turn up to the next press conference and boo Jones for being a selfish, cheating, drug taking disgrace to the sport rather than always ragging on Cormier. Overall it was a poor card. UFC didn't spend any money promoting it like they did with UFC 100, no docs on the last 100 UFC's. Just a rag tag bunch at a brand new stadium. |
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As BT Sport's current TV deal with UFC expires in a little over 2 weeks, there has been speculation all over the place as to which channel would be a suitable uk broadcast partner for the promotion. As I post this, I hear that an announcement is "Due Soon" according to some sites.
Any thoughts folks? |
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#2683 |
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As BT Sport's current TV deal with UFC expires in a little over 2 weeks, there has been speculation all over the place as to which channel would be a suitable uk broadcast partner for the promotion. As I post this, I hear that an announcement is "Due Soon" according to some sites.
Any thoughts folks? The fact they're talking about doing Bisping v Hendo in Manchester suggests Sky, as presumably they'd want that to be a ppv here, but most of the chatter recently has hinted at staying on BT. In short, no one knows.
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As BT Sport's current TV deal with UFC expires in a little over 2 weeks, there has been speculation all over the place as to which channel would be a suitable uk broadcast partner for the promotion. As I post this, I hear that an announcement is "Due Soon" according to some sites.
Any thoughts folks? The bad news would be the discussions that if Sky get it that the main numbered shows (210, 211, 212 etc etc) would be on PPV. Sky would also want more European events from the company too. We'll see what happens I guess, the above discussions have happened though. |
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#2685 |
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I doubt you could put all the numbered shows on ppv, the biggest ones maybe, but is anyone really going to pay £20 to watch the likes of 201: Lawler vs Woodley at 3-6am?
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#2686 |
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I doubt you could put all the numbered shows on ppv, the biggest ones maybe, but is anyone really going to pay £20 to watch the likes of 201: Lawler vs Woodley at 3-6am?
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#2687 |
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Oh dear, brock lesnar has been flagged up by the usada about a possible drug test failure taken before ufc 200. Bet Dana will be happy about that!
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Just sums up UFC 200 to be honest. It was a big mess and this just adds to it. Also seems White knew Lesnar had failed a test before the fight but allowed it to go ahead as he had already suspended Jones from the main event.
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#2689 |
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Shame Silva is so lazy, he really hurt Cormier with that kick, if he had put a bit more effort into punching he might of won that, shame it wasn't a five rounder.
Paul 'Semtex' Daley is on live this weekend on 5, 10pm Bellator Fight Night. Nice surprise. |
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I doubt you could put all the numbered shows on ppv, the biggest ones maybe, but is anyone really going to pay £20 to watch the likes of 201: Lawler vs Woodley at 3-6am?
The only UFC events sky would think about going PPV with is the European ones. Selling PPV's for events starting at 3am is tough and they will fail miserably. Even the European ones are a risk. Your suddenly asking fans to pay for events that they have been watching on BT sport for a few years. Tough sell and I think the fans would say no. Thinking about it I don't think sky would go down the PPV route. |
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#2691 |
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I doubt you could put all the numbered shows on ppv, the biggest ones maybe, but is anyone really going to pay £20 to watch the likes of 201: Lawler vs Woodley at 3-6am?
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Then you add in WWE and some boxing PPV's through the year and it's way too much. Consumers won't pay for all these events.
The only UFC events sky would think about going PPV with is the European ones. Selling PPV's for events starting at 3am is tough and they will fail miserably. Even the European ones are a risk. Your suddenly asking fans to pay for events that they have been watching on BT sport for a few years. Tough sell and I think the fans would say no. Thinking about it I don't think sky would go down the PPV route. |
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I watched Bellator last night , i would be interested in seeing Michael Page in the UFC , i'm not sure of the standard of Bellator so i would like to see if he can get away with his style of fighting in the UFC.
He looked good in his fight last night, a great kick to the body and finished it with a knee to the head. |
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I watched Bellator last night , i would be interested in seeing Michael Page in the UFC , i'm not sure of the standard of Bellator so i would like to see if he can get away with his style of fighting in the UFC.
He looked good in his fight last night, a great kick to the body and finished it with a knee to the head. |
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#2694 |
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A knee to the head that fractured his opponents skull! Really nasty injury, the front part of his head is a bit caved in!
![]() ![]() ,bloody hell, that is a scary injury, i don't think ive seen one that bad to the head
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#2695 |
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Bisping has said he will be fighting Dan Henderson in October in Manchester but it'll still be a 3-6am UK time show. Better get some coffee for going to that.
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BT Sport fights off Sky to retain UFC rights in UK and Ireland
http://www.sportcal.com/Media/News/Detail/105235 |
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BT Sport fights off Sky to retain UFC rights in UK and Ireland
http://www.sportcal.com/Media/News/Detail/105235 Phew ! i'm happy with BT showing the fights tbh although it looks like Sky Sports News won't be mentioning the UFC again out of spite |
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#2698 |
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Wrestling Observer says WME-IMG are borrowing $1.8 billion from various banks to pay for UFC, and that UFC needs to make $88 million profit a year just to pay the interest on the debt from this point on.
I guess they'll be hoping no more of their main eventers fail tests! |
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Wrestling Observer says WME-IMG are borrowing $1.8 billion from various banks to pay for UFC, and that UFC needs to make $88 million profit a year just to pay the interest on the debt from this point on.
I guess they'll be hoping no more of their main eventers fail tests! Quote:
Lack of details on that link.No mention of duration of the deal for starters. |
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They need to do something as its quite clear MMA has a drug problem.
Lack of details on that link. No mention of duration of the deal for starters. |
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