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Old 06-11-2016, 18:49
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I enjoyed the Dos Anjos v Ferguson fight , if McGregor wins the title next week , i think a McGregor fight v Tony Ferguson would be interesting to see , similar styles of fighting.

I can't wait for 205 next week, even next weeks prelims could have a night on its own imo.
As impressive as Ferguson has been, I think Khabib gets the first shot at the lightweight title if he wins at 205.
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Old 12-11-2016, 14:55
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I see Rousey was back yesterday for a stare down with Nunes yesterday and is already acting the complete bitch she has always been. Stormed off stage before being interviewed. You would think she might be a little more humble after kicking her ass kicked last time...guess not.

Never ever warmed to her.
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Old 12-11-2016, 22:13
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I see Rousey was back yesterday for a stare down with Nunes yesterday and is already acting the complete bitch she has always been. Stormed off stage before being interviewed. You would think she might be a little more humble after kicking her ass kicked last time...guess not.

Never ever warmed to her.
Pre-planned move IMO. You could see she was smirking as she left the stage.
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Old 12-11-2016, 22:22
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Almost here.

Looking forward to this.
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Old 12-11-2016, 23:07
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I really hope Karolina Kowalkiewicz beats Joanna Jędrzejczyk tonight , i cant see it happening but i really hate that Jędrzejczyk , such a bitch with no class as a person imo,

I'm watching Cage Warriors since when has James Buckley been a fighter

I'm hoping for a classic fight night tonight i can't wait
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Old 12-11-2016, 23:21
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I respect what Conor has done for the UFC and love his fights but I do still think it is a disgrace that they have not made him defend his title for a whole year, despite having 3 fights.

I know it is all down to White wanting Conor to be holding two belts this evening but just makes a mockery of the title though.
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Old 12-11-2016, 23:31
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I respect what Conor has done for the UFC and love his fights but I do still think it is a disgrace that they have not made him defend his title for a whole year, despite having 3 fights.

I know it is all down to White wanting Conor to be holding two belts this evening but just makes a mockery of the title though.
Ive lost a lot of respect for the UFC hierarchy over the last 5 years tbh, some of the decisions they have made regarding fighters has been a joke imo

I love everything about Conor , but i think they have put all their eggs in one basket with him , i think if there was an equal organisation with the same sort of money the UFC give then i think a lot of fighters would have jumped ship, you can really tell these days its only about the money , that days of 10/15 years ago where every main event was done for the love of MMA has gone , i still get a buzz off a few fights , tonight is one of the biggest cards in ages , but with some of the other main events it feels like if Conor Or Rousey is not involved the UFC can't be arsed .
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Old 12-11-2016, 23:35
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This Scouse lad on Cage Warriors has got a very good ground game , but i'm surprised he kept his belt tbh , he seemed to be out on his feet a few times during that

He is spewing up blood now in the cage
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Old 13-11-2016, 00:07
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Ive lost a lot of respect for the UFC hierarchy over the last 5 years tbh, some of the decisions they have made regarding fighters has been a joke imo

I love everything about Conor , but i think they have put all their eggs in one basket with him , i think if there was an equal organisation with the same sort of money the UFC give then i think a lot of fighters would have jumped ship, you can really tell these days its only about the money , that days of 10/15 years ago where every main event was done for the love of MMA has gone , i still get a buzz off a few fights , tonight is one of the biggest cards in ages , but with some of the other main events it feels like if Conor Or Rousey is not involved the UFC can't be arsed .
Agree with all of that mate. Look back at the CM Punk fight, a guy with zero fight experience, yet gets a place on the main PPV card.

The money thing is another element that I am not a fan of at all. Take away say 3/4 top names like your Conor/Rousey/Lesnar the rest get paid next to nothing. Even less now Reebok sponsor everything. Again back to Punk, with his contract, ppv buys, he took home close to $1 million. He earnt more than Travis Browne and Werdum combined that night.

You are also right when you say UFC are relying heavily on Conor. He is box office and I love him, he is great for the sport but as we have seen with Conor and with Rousey, they are not unbeatable.

As for tonight it should be a great card and I can't see past Conor.
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Old 13-11-2016, 01:34
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For all the hype of the main event, I am actually quite looking forward to the Tate v Pennington fight, that should e I think a very interesting one.

Anyone doing, or trying to go the full hog?

I see the post fight coverage doesn't finish until half eight in the morning!

That is going take some stamina there!
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Old 13-11-2016, 02:22
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I will probably watch the Prelims and have to watch the main card tomorrow.

Wow,, on the ground Khabib went through Johnson like a hot knife through butter

If Conor does win tonight then this guy will be a huge test
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Old 13-11-2016, 02:23
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As impressive as Ferguson has been, I think Khabib gets the first shot at the lightweight title if he wins at 205.
I think you could be right , he looked excellent tonight
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Old 13-11-2016, 12:38
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That was phenomenal by Conor , Alvarez is a solid champion with so much experience , but he looked a novice , after the first time he went down he looked clueless as to what to do , Conor's punch power and the way he throws his punches reminds me of Prince Naz , its that kind of punch power that allows him to behave the way he does.

Gutted Joanna beat Karolina, i just can't stand anything about Joanna tbh

Ive got a soft spot for Tate so i'm sad she is retiring , but i think its a good decision , it looks like her nose can't stand up to any punch these days , it immediately becomes red and an irritant to her.

I was impressed by Thompson's resilience in the 4th , but the whole fight didnt get me excited tbh, and messing up the scoring or the announcement of the scoring at the end was pathetic imo.

I wish the UFC would put as much effort into hyping up fights that Conor isnt in, that they do with the ones he is in.
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Old 13-11-2016, 12:58
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That was phenomenal by Conor , Alvarez is a solid champion with so much experience , but he looked a novice , after the first time he went down he looked clueless as to what to do , Conor's punch power and the way he throws his punches reminds me of Prince Naz , its that kind of punch power that allows him to behave the way he does.

Gutted Joanna beat Karolina, i just can't stand anything about Joanna tbh

Ive got a soft spot for Tate so i'm sad she is retiring , but i think its a good decision , it looks like her nose can't stand up to any punch these days , it immediately becomes red and an irritant to her.

I was impressed by Thompson's resilience in the 4th , but the whole fight didnt get me excited tbh, and messing up the scoring or the announcement of the scoring at the end was pathetic imo.

I wish the UFC would put as much effort into hyping up fights that Conor isnt in, that they do with the ones he is in.
Conor is on another level isn't he, he made Alvarez look so poor! Where does Conor go from here though? Well surely he has to defend his belt as he has not bothered to in a year, or maybe give it up and defend his new belt? Who knows what the hell he does.

The whole scoring announcement of the Thompson fight was indeed embarrassing and add to that the fact they did not have two belts ready for Conor for when he won, was just beyond pathetic. Here is a guy who could make UFC history and yet they did not think to have two belts ready?

Also how annoying is Bisping? God I hate that guy. Romero will destroy Bisping and I for one can't wait to see that. Romero was shouting up to Bisping saying he likes him ect ect yet Bisping as per usual with all his class gives him the finger.
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Old 13-11-2016, 13:17
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Conor is on another level isn't he, he made Alvarez look so poor! Where does Conor go from here though? Well surely he has to defend his belt as he has not bothered to in a year, or maybe give it up and defend his new belt? Who knows what the hell he does.

The whole scoring announcement of the Thompson fight was indeed embarrassing and add to that the fact they did not have two belts ready for Conor for when he won, was just beyond pathetic. Here is a guy who could make UFC history and yet they did not think to have two belts ready?

Also how annoying is Bisping? God I hate that guy. Romero will destroy Bisping and I for one can't wait to see that. Romero was shouting up to Bisping saying he likes him ect ect yet Bisping as per usual with all his class gives him the finger.
Yeah , as much as i'm happy to have a British Champion in the UFC , i really wish it wasnt Bisping , another fighter who likes to run his mouth, but takes himself to serious with it, so just looks a complete knob with no class doing it.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:00
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Christ just looked at the UFC 206 card...think I will give it a miss!
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:20
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Christ just looked at the UFC 206 card...think I will give it a miss!
I think it's fairly solid actually, especially now that Pettis vs Holloway and Cowboy vs Brown have been added.

I'd rather have that then 206 any day.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:54
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Is it too early to call Woodley vs Thompson FOTY?
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Old 14-11-2016, 00:51
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Is it too early to call Woodley vs Thompson FOTY?
Too early?? It is November, there isn't much time left for other fights!

A special event for Connor, although now it does pose a huge problem for those who make the decisions in the UFC, as I can't see Connor willingly giving up either belt, so something might have to be sorted out there.

What about a three weight Champion?! Nah, I think this is about as many belts as he can get, unless someone like Mighty Mouse fancies facing him!

The mix up over the scoring was very poor indeed, plus what really got on my nerves was Buffer taking forever to announce the fighters and about ten adverts, just cut the waffle and get on with the fights.

It is sad to see Tate retire, but she didn't really have a path to the top, plus it must have been a tad bit humiliating getting beat by someone who was one of her students so to speak, on TUF a few years ago.

Also how did Wonderboy survive that onslaught and guillotine attempt?! Credit to him, he did very well, and comes out with huge credit from that fight.

I look forward to seeing just who Joanna fights next, as she definitely showed some vulnerability in this fight, not quite the all conquering champion as she has been in her previous fights.

Overall a good main card I thought.
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Old 15-11-2016, 02:07
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Conor is on another level isn't he, he made Alvarez look so poor! Where does Conor go from here though? Well surely he has to defend his belt as he has not bothered to in a year, or maybe give it up and defend his new belt? Who knows what the hell he does.

The whole scoring announcement of the Thompson fight was indeed embarrassing and add to that the fact they did not have two belts ready for Conor for when he won, was just beyond pathetic. Here is a guy who could make UFC history and yet they did not think to have two belts ready?

Also how annoying is Bisping? God I hate that guy. Romero will destroy Bisping and I for one can't wait to see that. Romero was shouting up to Bisping saying he likes him ect ect yet Bisping as per usual with all his class gives him the finger.
Diaz made Conor look very average and Alvarez simply melted. I have to laugh at saying Bisping is annoying yet you love a petulant, spoilt, arrogant child who is benefitting from so much favouritism it is sickening.

And supporting Romero, the cheating stool sitting, water spilling guy over a Brit?
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Old 15-11-2016, 09:48
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Diaz made Conor look very average and Alvarez simply melted. I have to laugh at saying Bisping is annoying yet you love a petulant, spoilt, arrogant child who is benefitting from so much favouritism it is sickening.

And supporting Romero, the cheating stool sitting, water spilling guy over a Brit?
Very average? In the rematch Conor looked far from very average and did really well I think and other UFC fighters thought the same. Seems to me you hate Conor from your comments so your hardly going to praise him for doing something that has not been done before.

Yes Conor is very cocky ect but he is 100 times more likeable than Bisping. I live in Manchester and out of the 20 or so people I know who follow the UFC around here, all hate him.

Big difference between Conor and Bisping in terms of how they act. One is very marketable and could sell out arenas, make millions of $ in PPV events and gain worldwide media attention even outside the UFC bubble. While the other, people just see him and go "he is a dick"
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Old 15-11-2016, 12:37
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One year one from THAT Ronda Rousey fight, here is an article I published looking at the past 12 months in the career of Holly Holm, and how the shining moment of her career ended up being a burden she has been unable to shake off:

https://thenorthernnoise.wordpress.c...of-holly-holm/

Bare in mind this article is aimed as much at casuals as it is at hardcore MMA fans, and that I don't have an editor to trim my work down.
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Old 15-11-2016, 18:57
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Very average? In the rematch Conor looked far from very average and did really well I think and other UFC fighters thought the same. Seems to me you hate Conor from your comments so your hardly going to praise him for doing something that has not been done before.

Yes Conor is very cocky ect but he is 100 times more likeable than Bisping. I live in Manchester and out of the 20 or so people I know who follow the UFC around here, all hate him.

Big difference between Conor and Bisping in terms of how they act. One is very marketable and could sell out arenas, make millions of $ in PPV events and gain worldwide media attention even outside the UFC bubble. While the other, people just see him and go "he is a dick"
He didn't show the phenomenal talent that many seem to be accrediting him with when he beat Diaz in the second fight on points. It could have gone either way and once again we saw Conor's half closed eyes and shuffling stance when his cardio was spent.

Unfortunately Diaz couldn't (or wasn't meant to) push it over the line to finish Conor off. However, the rewriting of history that is going on is plain silly. He doesn't hold belts at two weights at the same time because he's so amazingly talented, it's because Dana is so far up his behind he's letting Conor do exactly what he wants. This was his third fight at different weights since taking the Featherweight crown in 2015. If there was ever a case of changing the goalposts to create the historic event that the UFC wanted, it's this.

In 23 years the UFC never wanted this situation to arise because they could see that just like boxing it would stagnate a division and that's exactly what it is doing.

Many fighters are cheesed off at the blatant favouritism being shown to certain fighters. I mean when there are title fights on a card they are ALWAYS ordered by weight but seemingly not on the occasions with Conor.

I admit that Conor has good skills in a limited range of MMA disciplines but in other areas, he doesn't. But he's the most capable of getting inside other fighters heads and making them not fight their game. This is from a mixture of his misplaced bravado and Dana's golden child favouritism.

Do you really not tire of someone endlessly telling you that they are running the game, that they control the UFC? It's getting like Rossi in MotoGP where they lift someone so high that they can do no wrong and if you speak out about them, you are dismissed as a hater.
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Old 18-11-2016, 19:13
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Really hope Khabib gets the LW title shot next, would be a travesty if he quit the UFC, obviously Ferguson Vs McGregor would be a great fight but I really want Khabib to get his chance and also settle the question once and for all who the real LW champ is..
Also Conors next fight needs to be the defense of one of his belts, I for one dont want to see him at FW ever again, so let it be Khabib. ya dig?
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Old 22-11-2016, 19:28
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He didn't show the phenomenal talent that many seem to be accrediting him with when he beat Diaz in the second fight on points. It could have gone either way and once again we saw Conor's half closed eyes and shuffling stance when his cardio was spent.

Unfortunately Diaz couldn't (or wasn't meant to) push it over the line to finish Conor off. However, the rewriting of history that is going on is plain silly. He doesn't hold belts at two weights at the same time because he's so amazingly talented, it's because Dana is so far up his behind he's letting Conor do exactly what he wants. This was his third fight at different weights since taking the Featherweight crown in 2015. If there was ever a case of changing the goalposts to create the historic event that the UFC wanted, it's this.

In 23 years the UFC never wanted this situation to arise because they could see that just like boxing it would stagnate a division and that's exactly what it is doing.

Many fighters are cheesed off at the blatant favouritism being shown to certain fighters. I mean when there are title fights on a card they are ALWAYS ordered by weight but seemingly not on the occasions with Conor.

I admit that Conor has good skills in a limited range of MMA disciplines but in other areas, he doesn't. But he's the most capable of getting inside other fighters heads and making them not fight their game. This is from a mixture of his misplaced bravado and Dana's golden child favouritism.

Do you really not tire of someone endlessly telling you that they are running the game, that they control the UFC? It's getting like Rossi in MotoGP where they lift someone so high that they can do no wrong and if you speak out about them, you are dismissed as a hater.
I think this is a good post and I mostly agree with this. However, it has to be acknowledged, especially with Rousey out of the picture until the Nunes fight, that Conner is the big box-office draw ATM and there is a large helping of rough charm with his antics, compared to a complete blockhead like Bisping for example. But at least both can fight, take the risks all fighters do and add value to the sport. It's the preening, fake-alpha, arrogance of Dana Shite I can't stand - you'd think he'd won 100 fights in the octagon the way he acts - like he's the Elvis of the UFC - when in fact he'd be nowhere if his business partners hadn't put up the money to buy it. Add to that his tendency to start unecessary, immature feuds all over the place and that even his own mother doesn't like him and you have a thouroughly dislikeable individual. God, I wish Ortiz had kept his promise to fight him......
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