Shane Carwin is injured and his fight with Roy Nelson at UFC 125 is off.
Are there any UFC fans on DS?
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“If Carwin can't knock out Lesnar, how could Fedor? In terms of punching power, Carwin has far more and he couldn't finish.”
“If Carwin can't knock out Lesnar, how could Fedor? In terms of punching power, Carwin has far more and he couldn't finish.”
Well I would argue Carwin did finish and the ref should of stopped the fight. Fedor would ko brock. He would get him on his ass with has hands and then ground and pound.
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“A slight error? It was a fundamental error -- something you wouldn't expect from a rookie.”
“A slight error? It was a fundamental error -- something you wouldn't expect from a rookie.”
No it was fedor getting too carried away when he had werdum in trouble. He thought the fight was as good as won and got sloppy. Again I point out this was something unusual as u never have seen Fedor make such an error. These things can happen in fights. If it happens again u could argue the point but for now it's seen as a error in judgement from fedor which can be easily corrected.
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“Secondly, look at the Rogers fight. Brett Rogers is nothing special and yet he managed to take Fedor down. If Rogers can, Lesnar can.”
“Secondly, look at the Rogers fight. Brett Rogers is nothing special and yet he managed to take Fedor down. If Rogers can, Lesnar can.”
But thats not the problem for Lesnar. Fedor has been taken down by others as well but his more than good enough on his back to deal with being taken down and finding his way back to his feet. I dont believe Lesnar could take Fedor down and keep him down. Lesnar wouldnt be able to avoid standing up and in those moments he would get found out as his standup is very very weak.
Carwin landed a ton of punches to the arm and Brock's gigantic biceps covered his face. The fight was justifiably continued.
Cain opened up a huge cut on Brock and he wasn't defending himself. Stoppage justified.
Cain opened up a huge cut on Brock and he wasn't defending himself. Stoppage justified.
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“Well I would argue Carwin did finish and the ref should of stopped the fight. Fedor would ko brock. He would get him on his ass with has hands and then ground and pound.
No it was fedor getting too carried away when he had werdum in trouble. He thought the fight was as good as won and got sloppy. Again I point out this was something unusual as u never have seen Fedor make such an error. These things can happen in fights. If it happens again u could argue the point but for now it's seen as a error in judgement from fedor which can be easily corrected.
But thats not the problem for Lesnar. Fedor has been taken down by others as well but his more than good enough on his back to deal with being taken down and finding his way back to his feet. I dont believe Lesnar could take Fedor down and keep him down. Lesnar wouldnt be able to avoid standing up and in those moments he would get found out as his standup is very very weak.”
“Well I would argue Carwin did finish and the ref should of stopped the fight. Fedor would ko brock. He would get him on his ass with has hands and then ground and pound.
No it was fedor getting too carried away when he had werdum in trouble. He thought the fight was as good as won and got sloppy. Again I point out this was something unusual as u never have seen Fedor make such an error. These things can happen in fights. If it happens again u could argue the point but for now it's seen as a error in judgement from fedor which can be easily corrected.
But thats not the problem for Lesnar. Fedor has been taken down by others as well but his more than good enough on his back to deal with being taken down and finding his way back to his feet. I dont believe Lesnar could take Fedor down and keep him down. Lesnar wouldnt be able to avoid standing up and in those moments he would get found out as his standup is very very weak.”
The Carwin/Lesnar fight should never of been stopped. Most of Carwin's shots were missing or doing minimal damage. And Lesnar survived and came back super strong in the second round, which proved the fight should never of been stopped. Fantastic refereeing really, because some may have stopped it and that'd be the wrong call.
As for Fedor, while overrated if you ask me, him going against Lesnar would be awesome IMO. No clue if we'll ever actually get to see it due to the horrendous agents and people working around Fedor, but let's also remember that Fedor has a hell of a lot of experiance compared to Lesnar. People seem to forget how few fights Lesnar has had and how few years he's been in MMA. He's done amazingly well for the short time he's been around. If the two locked up, it could go either way really. Lesnar certainly wouldn't find it easy to submit Fedor, but Lesnar could get him down and his GnP is lethal. At the same time, Fedor has great submissions and class stand up. It'd be a tough one to call and Fedor would go in favorite due to experiance really.
Regarding the Carwin injury, gutted to be honest. Apparently Cro Cop may be stepping in or even Nog. This COULD possibly set up Carwin/Lesnar II as well.
Originally Posted by JMTD:
“The Carwin/Lesnar fight should never of been stopped. Most of Carwin's shots were missing or doing minimal damage. And Lesnar survived and came back super strong in the second round, which proved the fight should never of been stopped. Fantastic refereeing really, because some may have stopped it and that'd be the wrong call.
As for Fedor, while overrated if you ask me, him going against Lesnar would be awesome IMO. No clue if we'll ever actually get to see it due to the horrendous agents and people working around Fedor, but let's also remember that Fedor has a hell of a lot of experiance compared to Lesnar. People seem to forget how few fights Lesnar has had and how few years he's been in MMA. He's done amazingly well for the short time he's been around. If the two locked up, it could go either way really. Lesnar certainly wouldn't find it easy to submit Fedor, but Lesnar could get him down and his GnP is lethal. At the same time, Fedor has great submissions and class stand up. It'd be a tough one to call and Fedor would go in favorite due to experiance really.
Regarding the Carwin injury, gutted to be honest. Apparently Cro Cop may be stepping in or even Nog. This COULD possibly set up Carwin/Lesnar II as well.”
“The Carwin/Lesnar fight should never of been stopped. Most of Carwin's shots were missing or doing minimal damage. And Lesnar survived and came back super strong in the second round, which proved the fight should never of been stopped. Fantastic refereeing really, because some may have stopped it and that'd be the wrong call.
As for Fedor, while overrated if you ask me, him going against Lesnar would be awesome IMO. No clue if we'll ever actually get to see it due to the horrendous agents and people working around Fedor, but let's also remember that Fedor has a hell of a lot of experiance compared to Lesnar. People seem to forget how few fights Lesnar has had and how few years he's been in MMA. He's done amazingly well for the short time he's been around. If the two locked up, it could go either way really. Lesnar certainly wouldn't find it easy to submit Fedor, but Lesnar could get him down and his GnP is lethal. At the same time, Fedor has great submissions and class stand up. It'd be a tough one to call and Fedor would go in favorite due to experiance really.
Regarding the Carwin injury, gutted to be honest. Apparently Cro Cop may be stepping in or even Nog. This COULD possibly set up Carwin/Lesnar II as well.”
Lesnar vs Fedor isnt a close fight at all.
Lesnar is nowhere near the level of fedor. Anyone who thinks he is has probably only seen Fedor fight twice in strikeforce. Seriously go back and watch his matches in Pride and then tell me that it will be a close fight.
Fedor would beat him very easily. Brock Lesnar does not know how to duck and roll with punches, Fedor would pick him off easily! Damn, I would also fancy Josh Barnett to beat Lesnar with little difficulty also.
Lesnar's offence and defence is average/poor.
Also the people around Fedor are the people he actually wants around him. You do know that Fedor owns a share in M-1 Global right? It was Fedor who was unhappy with UFC's offer and not his agents.
Originally Posted by kobashi100:
“Lesnar vs Fedor isnt a close fight at all.
Lesnar is nowhere near the level of fedor. Anyone who thinks he is has probably only seen Fedor fight twice in strikeforce. Seriously go back and watch his matches in Pride and then tell me that it will be a close fight.
Fedor would beat him very easily. Brock Lesnar does not know how to duck and roll with punches, Fedor would pick him off easily! Damn, I would also fancy Josh Barnett to beat Lesnar with little difficulty also.
Lesnar's offence and defence is average/poor.
Also the people around Fedor are the people he actually wants around him. You do know that Fedor owns a share in M-1 Global right? It was Fedor who was unhappy with UFC's offer and not his agents.”
“Lesnar vs Fedor isnt a close fight at all.
Lesnar is nowhere near the level of fedor. Anyone who thinks he is has probably only seen Fedor fight twice in strikeforce. Seriously go back and watch his matches in Pride and then tell me that it will be a close fight.
Fedor would beat him very easily. Brock Lesnar does not know how to duck and roll with punches, Fedor would pick him off easily! Damn, I would also fancy Josh Barnett to beat Lesnar with little difficulty also.
Lesnar's offence and defence is average/poor.
Also the people around Fedor are the people he actually wants around him. You do know that Fedor owns a share in M-1 Global right? It was Fedor who was unhappy with UFC's offer and not his agents.”
There's been many reports regarding his awful agents though and it's been widely talked about that they're the reason he isn't in the UFC.
I do believe it'd be a close fight. Some people forget this is MMA and ANYTHING is possible. Lesnar lacks experiance as I said and Fedor would of course be the favorite, no way I can deny that. But Lesnar is a massive force right now and you could say he's still just learning. Fedor is clearly not at his peak anymore. I haven't just seen his Strikeforce fights BTW, I've seen him way before that. I know he's one of the top HVW's of all time, honestly not even disputing that, but this would be very different. Lesnar wouldn't be silly enough to stand and box him either, we see that against Cain. Lesnar needs to work on his stand up, no doubt. I'm just saying that Lesnar could without a doubt take Fedor down and cause him problems.
Werdum isn't even close to being a top heavyweight, yet he beat Fedor, whether people want to call it a mistake or what. People said that fight wouldn't be close and Fedor would steam roll him, very wrong. I believe Lesnar would stand a great chance and counting him out would be a little far fetched.
Vadim Finkelchtein again pouring cold water on UFC rumor.
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“ “It’s stupidity. We are not conducting such negotiations. Right now we are in active negotiations with Showtime on a contract extension, and perhaps we will renew it. But the UFC does not offer such opportunities and imposes its monopoly conditions. They believe that everyone should be in the UFC,” he told Russian website AllBoxing.ru
“We would love to fight with Lesnar, and Velasquez and all but why should we give up all these undertakings, all the years spent on Fedor’s development will go to them? Fedor did not grow in the UFC, right? So why should he go to the UFC?
“Fedor is now ready to fight. He is 34, he feels fine and is ready to work. He is ready to sign a contract for five or six fights, and do the job very well. He always says he’s ready to act. We need to protect our interests.””
“ “It’s stupidity. We are not conducting such negotiations. Right now we are in active negotiations with Showtime on a contract extension, and perhaps we will renew it. But the UFC does not offer such opportunities and imposes its monopoly conditions. They believe that everyone should be in the UFC,” he told Russian website AllBoxing.ru
“We would love to fight with Lesnar, and Velasquez and all but why should we give up all these undertakings, all the years spent on Fedor’s development will go to them? Fedor did not grow in the UFC, right? So why should he go to the UFC?
“Fedor is now ready to fight. He is 34, he feels fine and is ready to work. He is ready to sign a contract for five or six fights, and do the job very well. He always says he’s ready to act. We need to protect our interests.””
Originally Posted by eugenespeed:
“UFC and WEC to merge
http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/159...UFC-Merger.htm”
“UFC and WEC to merge
http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/159...UFC-Merger.htm”
Having Jose Aldo is a definite boost, he has exciting fights; he's defending the UFC featherweight- 145 pounds- title on the January 1st show apparently.
I don't think Fedor will go to UFC ever, it's clear UFC just don't want to have to deal with his management, which is understandable.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Koscheck/GSP is going to be huge.”
“Koscheck/GSP is going to be huge.”
There last fight was nothing to write home about with GSP dominating
dont see this next match up being any different
Did you guys see the cracked article on Josh Koscheck? It was the funniest thing I've ever read in my life.....hang on linky imminent...
http://www.cracked.com/blog/a-book-insults-just-ufc/
"Josh Koscheck thinks chickens are cats you can f*ck", funniest line ever penned.....
http://www.cracked.com/blog/a-book-insults-just-ufc/
"Josh Koscheck thinks chickens are cats you can f*ck", funniest line ever penned.....
Originally Posted by Party Animal:
“There last fight was nothing to write home about with GSP dominating
dont see this next match up being any different”
“There last fight was nothing to write home about with GSP dominating
dont see this next match up being any different”
It is likely to be a dull 50-45 unanimous decision for GSP, but Koscheck is so over as a heel (bad guy) that it's not going to matter for the buyrate; people are going to pay to see him get beaten.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“It is likely to be a dull 50-45 unanimous decision for GSP, but Koscheck is so over as a heel (bad guy) that it's not going to matter for the buyrate; people are going to pay to see him get beaten.”
“It is likely to be a dull 50-45 unanimous decision for GSP, but Koscheck is so over as a heel (bad guy) that it's not going to matter for the buyrate; people are going to pay to see him get beaten.”
I have alwaysbeen a GSP fan but his last few fights have been pretty boring affairs
I think since Serra beat him a few years ago he is far more cautious of being caught and as a result he has become a more boring fighter
still a great fighter but he is not exciting like he used to be
still think he will walk straight thru bad boy Koscheck easily
Originally Posted by JCR:
“The Ultimate Fighter is really really good this week as well.
Koscheck/GSP is going to be huge.”
“The Ultimate Fighter is really really good this week as well.
Koscheck/GSP is going to be huge.”
i loved it last last night as the "male nurse" wound him up with ease.
of course its hard to tell how real it all is as american reality tv has some staging but its funny how dana never commented on josh trying to start a fight and grabbing a non-fighter by the neck.
koscheck is over as a heel but one who is very dull in the ring.
....to (probably mis)quote that cracked article I posted earlier...
"Josh Koscheck's style of fighting is a specialised blend of deep tissue massage and milking, afterwards his satisfied opponents owe him up to $1000 dollars"
"Josh Koscheck's style of fighting is a specialised blend of deep tissue massage and milking, afterwards his satisfied opponents owe him up to $1000 dollars"
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Holy shit! BJ Penn! There's something to wake you up at 4.50am!”
“Holy shit! BJ Penn! There's something to wake you up at 4.50am!”
Not as calm and relaxed as we normally see him. He was pumped when he entered the arena. Man on a mission!
Matt Hughes needs to retire!
Rampage vs Machida was rubbish fight! best thing about it was Rampage using the Pride music in his entrance.
Rampage vs Machida was rubbish fight! best thing about it was Rampage using the Pride music in his entrance.
Rampage/Machida was very intriguing and extremely close. The 3rd round was great especially when Machida avoided any possible slam.
Originally Posted by SSReporters:
“Rampage/Machida was very intriguing and extremely close. The 3rd round was great especially when Machida avoided any possible slam.”
“Rampage/Machida was very intriguing and extremely close. The 3rd round was great especially when Machida avoided any possible slam.”
close fight yes but not great fight.
Machida to blame as he ran for 2 rounds. in the 3rd he finally moved forward trying to win the fight.
anyone know whats going on with the ultimate fighter next week as it doesnt seem to be in the epg.
i checked radio times and it says its and also that sky are showing the live event too.
i checked radio times and it says its and also that sky are showing the live event too.
On my EPG, it's saying that the next episode is on next Friday morning at 2.30am on Sky Sports 3. It does not say if this is a repeat or a new episode, but I presume it's the former.
Originally Posted by SSReporters:
“GSP vs. Koscheck is this weekend! Who do you guys have?
I take GSP by decision.”
“GSP vs. Koscheck is this weekend! Who do you guys have?
I take GSP by decision.”
GSP should win with ease
but koscheck could win by DQ, gsp might stand near him or put his hand on his forehead, so of course josh would go screaming like a little girl claiming to be getting poked in the eye or kicked in the head lol
koschecks lay and pray style shouldnt work against GSP, however he probably thinks he has the better stand up so he might try and keep it standing up.
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