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Old 25-06-2015, 08:52
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Fight is still on. Mendes is on ready if anything does go wrong and will step in as a replacement if so.
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Old 27-06-2015, 16:40
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Fight is still on. Mendes is on ready if anything does go wrong and will step in as a replacement if so.
A Bruised rib will still likely cancel this fight, if not by NU, then by the NASC. I would think that the only reasons why the fight hasn't been called off is Aldo is going to get a considerable back end on the PPV points for the first time, or it's shennigans.
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Old 27-06-2015, 22:17
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What happened to Spike not showing Bellator 138 tonight?
They are showing some Rob Schneider / Van Damme film called Knock Off.
I wanted to see a Has-been vs never-was in the exciting main event not a washed up actor vs a washed up unfunny actor
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Old 01-07-2015, 01:50
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So the big world tour and media hype has turned out to be utterly pointless and a huge waste of time and money, as Aldo is out of the fight with his injury.
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Old 01-07-2015, 08:39
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So the big world tour and media hype has turned out to be utterly pointless and a huge waste of time and money, as Aldo is out of the fight with his injury.
Depends what you mean by utterly pointless.
1. Pre orders is an all time high apparently.
2. People are buzzing to see Conor McGregor and Chad Mendes is still a massive fight.
3. If McGregor wins against Mendes, the buildup had already a clear foundation and already a massive anticipation.

The only losers in this is Also and to be frank probably the UFC as I don't see Mendes losing to McGregor.

But utterly pointless and a huge water of money? I don't see it. They have generated much more interest in the featherweight division that there has ever been. Just worth money.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:44
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I dont see Mcgregor beating Menzez or Aldo but I think McGregor has got into Aldo's head in a big way
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Old 01-07-2015, 14:09
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Depends what you mean by utterly pointless.
1. Pre orders is an all time high apparently.
2. People are buzzing to see Conor McGregor and Chad Mendes is still a massive fight.
3. If McGregor wins against Mendes, the buildup had already a clear foundation and already a massive anticipation.

The only losers in this is Also and to be frank probably the UFC as I don't see Mendes losing to McGregor.

But utterly pointless and a huge water of money? I don't see it. They have generated much more interest in the featherweight division that there has ever been. Just worth money.
The pre-orders I would imagine (we'll those that have to pre-orders anyway, thankfully we don't have to in this country) were for the original bout, not the current one, quite how many people would have ordered the current fight compared the original one, well we will not know for sure, but personally speaking, I wouldn't say it would be as much.

Quite how much the UFC spent taking both fighters and all their entourage from country to country, and staying in one would think, only the best hotels, to promote a fight that is now not happening, plus all of the marketing (I think Dana has said this was one of if not the most expensive fights to promote), I don't know, but all of that is now down the drain, as the original fight is now not happening, hence it was a massive waste of cash and time (for everyone involved say the making of the adverts, posters, road tour etc).

Yes it promoted Connor very well, but it was promotion for a fight that is not happening, he s now fighting someone else for an interim title, which is in no way shape or form, the same as facing the actual champion, for the actual belt.
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Old 01-07-2015, 14:29
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I have to agree McGregor got into Aldo's head right from the beginning.
Personally ( and i know some will disagree ) but i don't think McGregor would have beat Aldo, however i think he has a better chance against Menzez. That saying i'm now looking forward more to the Lawler v MacDonald fight.

Finally got to see Bellator 138 Kimbo Slice v Ken Shamrock. Have to say that was a fight for the ages
I'm not surprised Joe Rogan slammed it.
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Old 02-07-2015, 19:14
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The pre-orders I would imagine (we'll those that have to pre-orders anyway, thankfully we don't have to in this country) were for the original bout, not the current one, quite how many people would have ordered the current fight compared the original one, well we will not know for sure, but personally speaking, I wouldn't say it would be as much.

How many people are going to cancel it, because Aldo is not fighting? Also has barely broken 300,000 PPV if I'm remembering correctly. People seem to be more interested in McGregor.
Quite how much the UFC spent taking both fighters and all their entourage from country to country, and staying in one would think, only the best hotels, to promote a fight that is now not happening, plus all of the marketing (I think Dana has said this was one of if not the most expensive fights to promote), I don't know, but all of that is now down the drain, as the original fight is now not happening, hence it was a massive waste of cash and time (for everyone involved say the making of the adverts, posters, road tour etc).[/quote]

All their entourage might have been 2 people each! Again, it's only a "massive" waste of cash if the PPV numbers and the gate shows it. Which we won't know until after. Again granted it's not the optimal situation, but what all the promotion had done is promote one of the most charismatic people in the division, going into a fight with what many consider to be the #1 contender in the division. It's hardly UFC 151 is it?

Yes it promoted Connor very well, but it was promotion for a fight that is not happening, he s now fighting someone else for an interim title, which is in no way shape or form, the same as facing the actual champion, for the actual belt.
What you seem not to realise is that whilst the fight is not happening, the money spent by promoting the UFC most dominant champion, who has historically been under promoted, promoting one of the biggest break out stars and promoting probably the best, most exciting weight classes in the UFC to the casual is never going to be "utterly pointless" and a "huge waste of time and money". It will only be that if the UFC went bankrupt tomorrow.

It will not have been the most beneficial usage of time for a lot of people, but to claim that nothing of great value can be salvaged is just short sighted.
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Old 12-07-2015, 03:04
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Ugh, hate hate hate the new intro music.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:07
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Holy **** this is a very good show.

Edit- well apart from Sinéad O'Connor.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:39
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Greatest UFC show ever.
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:37
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Has the Octagon ever been so blood splattered, looked like an abattoir.
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Old 12-07-2015, 18:29
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That was a great night of UFC, best for a long time.

Good win for Mcgregor, he was almost caught in a choke just before he finished Mendes, i'm hoping it was the kicks to the body that gassed Mendes and not the 2 weeks notice, Aldo needs to stop running scared, i'm really excited for them to eventually fight, there is also Frankie Edgar Mcgregor could fight next.

Sky Sports is a joke, just because they don't cover the UFC there is absolutely no mention about the title fight at all on their news channel, its like the UFC doesnt exist
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Old 13-07-2015, 09:10
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Man I can't believe that more people aren't calling for an investigation into Herb Dean.

He gives Mendes a final warning in the ring for putting his fingers on Mcgregors face in the first but doesn't do the same to Mcgregor even though he warned him three separate times in the second for blows to the back of the head.

Even putting aside the questionable 9-3 elbow strikes to the top of the head, stopping the fight with 3 seconds to go is an outrage.

I'm not a fan of Mendes and Conor may well have finished him in the third but he was covering up and he was defending himself hence the fight being stopped is highly suspicious. You could see that Herb was realising that he had to end the fight no matter what before the round was over.

It's all very well the UFC creating uniforms and putting out a more corporate image but in doing so, it does create an environment where the big money corporate business takes over. Stamp out individuality and embrace the corporate machine.

We've already seen how they covered up Silva and Jones' substance abuse PRIOR to a fight to collect a pay check yet we are really meant to believe that with all the money invested in Conor that they wouldn't 'incentivise' Herb to take an opportunity to close off the fight if it presented itself?

What kind of pussy is Mendes that he doesn't kick off about that or the rules conversation that he was having with Herb mid fight? I shouldn't be surprised though because he said nothing when Aldo put him down at 4.59 in their first fight and then ran into the crowd to mask the fact that the ref had ended the round and not the fight.

Once again, the UFC had money invested in Brazil so it was left to slide. The sport, or rather their organisation, gets more corrupt and more controlling at every event and I can only assume that it's because so many are feeding at the trough that no one calls them out for it.
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Old 13-07-2015, 09:54
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Man I can't believe that more people aren't calling for an investigation into Herb Dean.

He gives Mendes a final warning in the ring for putting his fingers on Mcgregors face in the first but doesn't do the same to Mcgregor even though he warned him three separate times in the second for blows to the back of the head.

Even putting aside the questionable 9-3 elbow strikes to the top of the head, stopping the fight with 3 seconds to go is an outrage.

I'm not a fan of Mendes and Conor may well have finished him in the third but he was covering up and he was defending himself hence the fight being stopped is highly suspicious. You could see that Herb was realising that he had to end the fight no matter what before the round was over.

It's all very well the UFC creating uniforms and putting out a more corporate image but in doing so, it does create an environment where the big money corporate business takes over. Stamp out individuality and embrace the corporate machine.

We've already seen how they covered up Silva and Jones' substance abuse PRIOR to a fight to collect a pay check yet we are really meant to believe that with all the money invested in Conor that they wouldn't 'incentivise' Herb to take an opportunity to close off the fight if it presented itself?

What kind of pussy is Mendes that he doesn't kick off about that or the rules conversation that he was having with Herb mid fight? I shouldn't be surprised though because he said nothing when Aldo put him down at 4.59 in their first fight and then ran into the crowd to mask the fact that the ref had ended the round and not the fight.

Once again, the UFC had money invested in Brazil so it was left to slide. The sport, or rather their organisation, gets more corrupt and more controlling at every event and I can only assume that it's because so many are feeding at the trough that no one calls them out for it.
Hence why I would not like to see boxing ever become under one umbrella like UFC. Boxing has plenty shady characters and underhand BS but the fighters still retain a lot more control.
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Old 14-07-2015, 08:54
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Hence why I would not like to see boxing ever become under one umbrella like UFC. Boxing has plenty shady characters and underhand BS but the fighters still retain a lot more control.
I hear what you are saying. I've tried to add my post onto MMA Junkie and it was removed twice and I tried to post it on Bleacher Report and my account was suspended for "offensive language". It seems the UFC's control even extends to MMA related forums.

I did have to laugh when Rogan and Goldberg were talking before the Verdum vs Cain fight that it was a unification fight. Fighting over an interim belt is hardly unification.
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:16
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I hear what you are saying. I've tried to add my post onto MMA Junkie and it was removed twice and I tried to post it on Bleacher Report and my account was suspended for "offensive language". It seems the UFC's control even extends to MMA related forums.

I did have to laugh when Rogan and Goldberg were talking before the Verdum vs Cain fight that it was a unification fight. Fighting over an interim belt is hardly unification.
interim titles are so stupid. I really fail to see the point of them. Since when does a #1contender need a belt.
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:33
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Great work by Conor :')
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:57
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Aldo Will destroy McGregor so would Frankie Edgar.
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Old 14-07-2015, 17:22
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interim titles are so stupid. I really fail to see the point of them. Since when does a #1contender need a belt.
Exactly. Personally, I think if a champion can't defend his belt he should give it up and the #1 and #2 fight for it.

Then when the 'champ' comes back and he is ready, he can fight for it like everyone else. It might seem a little unfair but no worse than the ridiculous stagnation that can occur when the champ is out for a couple of years.

I'm also getting tired of the WWE antics of "I hate him", "I'm going to smash his face in", "The guy is a fool" to sell the tickets and then the make up hugs and the "I've got a lotta respect for him" after the fight.

I know Dana has said that they don't like it but they clearly do as they loved it for Jones vs Cormier and ramped it way up for McGregor vs Aldo.
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Old 14-07-2015, 19:55
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John Kavanagh was just on MMA Hour speaking about how Conor didn't do a single live round of wrestling throughout the entire fight camp for this fight due to the injury he had.

Even more impressive victory now.
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Old 17-07-2015, 15:13
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Frank Mir anyone?

What a brawl, guy looked like he was shot, literally. Even sweeter considering Mir has a habit of breaking opponent's arms.

Wish Joe Rogan was commentating for this fight, he was notably subdued at the end of the Connor fight.
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Old 17-07-2015, 17:16
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Great analysis and reading of the Conor Chad fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAlYTPxT4W8
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Old 18-07-2015, 10:26
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BT Sport App to watch Bisbing tonight.
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