Telephone ringer (land line)

Hadro · 01-01-2003, 19:19

Happy New Year!

I had a new telephone for Christmas from a relative for use in my bedroom, the make and model being a Binatone Speakerphone 200.

The problem I've got is we're quite prone to having calls late at night in our household and my shiny new phone doesn't have an off switch for the ringer. Does anybody know of a seperate plug in switch that I could attach my phone too, that would kill the ringer but still leave the phone operable for outgoing calls.

I did try unplugging it but the inbuilt memory only lasts 1.5 hours so I have to set the clock and reprogram the numbers in memory.

I did a search on google groups but the only references to such a device I could see were in the USA.

Any help would be appreciated, I need my sleep

02-01-2003, 02:26

I've did a search on your phone and I've Binatone's website click here and just click on products then scroll through the croded phones. If you click on the full specs it'll tell that there is a way of controlling the volume on the ringer. Have you not looked underneath the phone as sometimes there is a volume control sometimes there on the handset of the phone.

02-01-2003, 12:03

of course you could pop down to maplins then pull out your soldering iron and screwdriver

Actually, it would be quite an easy job to do. Cut one of the wires to the ringer, then solder to a switch, cut a hole in tthe side and you'll be done. Then it'd be easier than fiddling with a little ringer on/off switch in the base of the phone.

EyeRDee · 02-01-2003, 15:27

Quote:

Originally posted by andysmith
of course you could pop down to maplins then pull out your soldering iron and screwdriver

Thus rendering the phone illegal for use on a telephone network.

Hadro · 02-01-2003, 16:17

Quote:

Originally posted by micksea241
Have you not looked underneath the phone as sometimes there is a volume control sometimes there on the handset of the phone.

There is a switch, but the only settings are High, Medium or Low and even on the low setting it's still quite loud

.

Maybe I will have to try some earplugs.

02-01-2003, 23:13

Quote:

Originally posted by EyeRDee
Thus rendering the phone illegal for use on a telephone network.

surely not if you just cliped one of the wires to the ringer.

Zenith · 03-01-2003, 02:56

If you look at the plug on the end of the phone cord, you will see that it has 6 slots (with gold connectors on the middle 4). If you hold the connector with the locking latch on the right hand side, then the ring line is the 4th slot along from the left hand side. If you disconnect this line, the phone will still work as normal, but it will not ring.
Probably the easiest way of doing this is to buy a short extension lead for about £1 and modify that. Then your phone can be left in it's original condition. Remove the outer insulation on the extension cable a little way past the socket and cut the wire going to the ring line. You can then connect a switch to turn the ringer on & off. It will look neater & be more robust if this is done inside a plastic box.

This article shows how to silence all the phones in a house, apart from the one connected to the master socket:-

http://www.diyha.co.uk/projects/silent_phones.html

EyeRDee · 03-01-2003, 10:21

Quote:

Originally posted by andysmith
surely not if you just cliped one of the wires to the ringer.

Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid.

dslrocks · 03-01-2003, 13:58

Quote:

EyeRDee wrote...
Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid.

Don't you mean BABT green circle underneath?

03-01-2003, 17:42

Quote:

Originally posted by EyeRDee
Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid.

my new BT Decor 310 hasn't even got a sticker on it

!!! should it have? anyway, if that law stands then quite a few fones in my house are going to be.....um..... void???

i just cant resist taking a look and customising.

Hadro · 04-01-2003, 19:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Zenith
If you look at the plug on the end of the phone cord, you will see that it has 6 slots (with gold connectors on the middle 4). If you hold the connector with the locking latch on the right hand side, then the ring line is the 4th slot along from the left hand side. If you disconnect this line, the phone will still work as normal, but it will not ring.
Probably the easiest way of doing this is to buy a short extension lead for about £1 and modify that. Then your phone can be left in it's original condition. Remove the outer insulation on the extension cable a little way past the socket and cut the wire going to the ring line. You can then connect a switch to turn the ringer on & off. It will look neater & be more robust if this is done inside a plastic box.

This article shows how to silence all the phones in a house, apart from the one connected to the master socket:-

http://www.diyha.co.uk/projects/silent_phones.html

Thanks for that, I might be tempted to give it a go

I'm assuming this wouldn't break any telecommunication rules

EyeRDee · 05-01-2003, 01:34

Quote:

Originally posted by dslrocks
Don't you mean BABT green circle underneath?

Oops!

Triangle = Bad - Not approved
Circle = Good - Approved

Zenith · 05-01-2003, 02:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Hadro
Thanks for that, I might be tempted to give it a go

I'm assuming this wouldn't break any telecommunication rules

To be honest I'm not sure if it breaks any rules. I wouldn't have thought so as you are only modifying an extension lead with a switch, but I can't say for certain.

dodgygeeza · 05-01-2003, 18:43

Technically it may be illegal but who's going to know? Certainly not BT, NTL or Telewest

PA38 · 06-01-2003, 23:12

Its usually the orange one

OOPS thats against the rules

DerekMcV · 06-01-2003, 23:35

To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech. They should pull off quite easily. This will not break any Telecomunications regulations. See

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html

NedFlanders · 07-01-2003, 00:04

as long as you don't f-up the telco provider's equipment there's nothing to stop you cutting the ringer. Afterall it's your phone and if you want it to stick it up your arse you could do so.

Alternatively you could return it and ask a guy at the store for one with a ringer. I'm sure who ever bought you the gist won't be offended!

Good Luck mate

Zenith · 07-01-2003, 01:15

Quote:

Originally posted by DerekMcV
To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech...

I was assuming that Hadro only wanted to stop the ringing at night. That's why I suggested modifying an extension lead with a switch. Although I suppose that if there are other phones in the house, you would probably hear those during the day and permanently disabling the ringer in the bedroom phone wouldn't be a problem. In which case your suggestion would be neater.

dunkpigeon · 07-01-2003, 01:43

Quote:

Originally posted by DerekMcV
To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech. They should pull off quite easily. This will not break any Telecomunications regulations. See

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html

It must be stressed that can only be done if it is an extension socket installed by the individual, and not the BT (or cable co's) master socket (ie where your line connects to the network) also, make sure there are no other cable runs from this socket.

If not, its a good idea!

Hadro · 07-01-2003, 15:59

Quote:

Originally posted by NedFlanders
......it's your phone and if you want it to stick it up your arse you could do so.

That may make it quieter

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. It is handy to have my phone ring during the day as I'd never hear the other phones in the house ring when I'm playing TFC or watching a DVD. The modified extension will probably be the way to go.

NedFlanders · 08-01-2003, 04:54

Go ahead, get your hands dirty. Let us know if you make a balls of it or not (hehehe)

ukbill69 · 08-01-2003, 11:49

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01-01-2003, 19:19	#1
Hadro Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 121	Telephone ringer (land line) Happy New Year! I had a new telephone for Christmas from a relative for use in my bedroom, the make and model being a Binatone Speakerphone 200. The problem I've got is we're quite prone to having calls late at night in our household and my shiny new phone doesn't have an off switch for the ringer. Does anybody know of a seperate plug in switch that I could attach my phone too, that would kill the ringer but still leave the phone operable for outgoing calls. I did try unplugging it but the inbuilt memory only lasts 1.5 hours so I have to set the clock and reprogram the numbers in memory. I did a search on google groups but the only references to such a device I could see were in the USA. Any help would be appreciated, I need my sleep

02-01-2003, 02:26	#2
micksea241 Posts: n/a	I've did a search on your phone and I've Binatone's website click here and just click on products then scroll through the croded phones. If you click on the full specs it'll tell that there is a way of controlling the volume on the ringer. Have you not looked underneath the phone as sometimes there is a volume control sometimes there on the handset of the phone.

02-01-2003, 12:03	#3
Pingu Posts: n/a	of course you could pop down to maplins then pull out your soldering iron and screwdriver Actually, it would be quite an easy job to do. Cut one of the wires to the ringer, then solder to a switch, cut a hole in tthe side and you'll be done. Then it'd be easier than fiddling with a little ringer on/off switch in the base of the phone.

02-01-2003, 15:27	#4
EyeRDee Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,459	Quote: Originally posted by andysmith of course you could pop down to maplins then pull out your soldering iron and screwdriver Thus rendering the phone illegal for use on a telephone network.

02-01-2003, 16:17	#5
Hadro Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 121	Quote: Originally posted by micksea241 Have you not looked underneath the phone as sometimes there is a volume control sometimes there on the handset of the phone. There is a switch, but the only settings are High, Medium or Low and even on the low setting it's still quite loud . Maybe I will have to try some earplugs.

02-01-2003, 23:13	#6
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by EyeRDee Thus rendering the phone illegal for use on a telephone network. surely not if you just cliped one of the wires to the ringer.

03-01-2003, 02:56	#7
Zenith Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East London Posts: 3,084	If you look at the plug on the end of the phone cord, you will see that it has 6 slots (with gold connectors on the middle 4). If you hold the connector with the locking latch on the right hand side, then the ring line is the 4th slot along from the left hand side. If you disconnect this line, the phone will still work as normal, but it will not ring. Probably the easiest way of doing this is to buy a short extension lead for about £1 and modify that. Then your phone can be left in it's original condition. Remove the outer insulation on the extension cable a little way past the socket and cut the wire going to the ring line. You can then connect a switch to turn the ringer on & off. It will look neater & be more robust if this is done inside a plastic box. This article shows how to silence all the phones in a house, apart from the one connected to the master socket:- http://www.diyha.co.uk/projects/silent_phones.html

03-01-2003, 10:21	#8
EyeRDee Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,459	Quote: Originally posted by andysmith surely not if you just cliped one of the wires to the ringer. Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid.

03-01-2003, 13:58	#9
dslrocks Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Between the gutter and stars Posts: 6,825	Quote: EyeRDee wrote... Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid. Don't you mean BABT green circle underneath?

03-01-2003, 17:42	#10
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by EyeRDee Yes, still stands. Any user modification to a telephone means that the BABT green triangle underneath it is no longer valid. my new BT Decor 310 hasn't even got a sticker on it !!! should it have? anyway, if that law stands then quite a few fones in my house are going to be.....um..... void??? i just cant resist taking a look and customising.

04-01-2003, 19:27	#11
Hadro Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 121	Quote: Originally posted by Zenith If you look at the plug on the end of the phone cord, you will see that it has 6 slots (with gold connectors on the middle 4). If you hold the connector with the locking latch on the right hand side, then the ring line is the 4th slot along from the left hand side. If you disconnect this line, the phone will still work as normal, but it will not ring. Probably the easiest way of doing this is to buy a short extension lead for about £1 and modify that. Then your phone can be left in it's original condition. Remove the outer insulation on the extension cable a little way past the socket and cut the wire going to the ring line. You can then connect a switch to turn the ringer on & off. It will look neater & be more robust if this is done inside a plastic box. This article shows how to silence all the phones in a house, apart from the one connected to the master socket:- http://www.diyha.co.uk/projects/silent_phones.html Thanks for that, I might be tempted to give it a go I'm assuming this wouldn't break any telecommunication rules

05-01-2003, 01:34	#12
EyeRDee Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 3,459	Quote: Originally posted by dslrocks Don't you mean BABT green circle underneath? Oops! Triangle = Bad - Not approved Circle = Good - Approved

05-01-2003, 02:02	#13
Zenith Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East London Posts: 3,084	Quote: Originally posted by Hadro Thanks for that, I might be tempted to give it a go I'm assuming this wouldn't break any telecommunication rules To be honest I'm not sure if it breaks any rules. I wouldn't have thought so as you are only modifying an extension lead with a switch, but I can't say for certain.

05-01-2003, 18:43	#14
dodgygeeza Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 6,151	Technically it may be illegal but who's going to know? Certainly not BT, NTL or Telewest

06-01-2003, 23:12	#15
PA38 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 9	Its usually the orange one OOPS thats against the rules

06-01-2003, 23:35	#16
DerekMcV Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 850	To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech. They should pull off quite easily. This will not break any Telecomunications regulations. See http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html

07-01-2003, 00:04	#17
NedFlanders Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Belfast Posts: 637	as long as you don't f-up the telco provider's equipment there's nothing to stop you cutting the ringer. Afterall it's your phone and if you want it to stick it up your arse you could do so. Alternatively you could return it and ask a guy at the store for one with a ringer. I'm sure who ever bought you the gist won't be offended! Good Luck mate

07-01-2003, 01:15	#18
Zenith Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East London Posts: 3,084	Quote: Originally posted by DerekMcV To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech... I was assuming that Hadro only wanted to stop the ringing at night. That's why I suggested modifying an extension lead with a switch. Although I suppose that if there are other phones in the house, you would probably hear those during the day and permanently disabling the ringer in the bedroom phone wouldn't be a problem. In which case your suggestion would be neater.

07-01-2003, 01:43	#19
dunkpigeon Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 751	Quote: Originally posted by DerekMcV To stop the bell ringing remove the wires at the back of the socket from connections 3&4 leaving 2&5 for speech. They should pull off quite easily. This will not break any Telecomunications regulations. See http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html It must be stressed that can only be done if it is an extension socket installed by the individual, and not the BT (or cable co's) master socket (ie where your line connects to the network) also, make sure there are no other cable runs from this socket. If not, its a good idea!

07-01-2003, 15:59	#20
Hadro Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 121	Quote: Originally posted by NedFlanders ......it's your phone and if you want it to stick it up your arse you could do so. That may make it quieter Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. It is handy to have my phone ring during the day as I'd never hear the other phones in the house ring when I'm playing TFC or watching a DVD. The modified extension will probably be the way to go.

08-01-2003, 04:54	#21
NedFlanders Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Belfast Posts: 637	Go ahead, get your hands dirty. Let us know if you make a balls of it or not (hehehe)

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08-01-2003, 11:49	#22
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