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could we stop with the anton dissing
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c graham
21-10-2006
it is very hard to dance with someone who isn't a good dancer or well can't dance that dance he is good he has done 3 other jives on the show he can dance it was just hard give him a break he has as much ryt to be on the show than anyone else
him and erin are spectacular so if you's wouldn't mind could you all just stop !
bevey
21-10-2006
here here it wouldnt be the same without him - but everyone has the right to their opinion, i love Anton think hes funny and is doing his best but Jan isnt the best, Antons latin isnt the greatest but he tries and that catsuit didnt leave much to the imagination lol
innocent.
21-10-2006
There'll be no Anton dissing from me , I like Anton and Jan , and I think if she is given time she'll come on in leaps and bounds.
LinoleicAcid
21-10-2006
That red outfit, although a rather garish colour, gave a particularly nice view from all round.



Who could have SCD without that???

Trust me, c, when they foxtrot next week the criticism will fade las fast as a post Big Brother celebrity.
bendymixer
21-10-2006
Im not dissing Anton Im dissing his dancing as a teacher his latin is just not good enough to be on that show nothing to do with him (even though Im not keen on Anton in person either)
xadie
21-10-2006
Everyone knows how much I love Anton, but equally everyone's got a right to their own opinion. As long as the dissing stays out of the Anton Appreciation thread, let them say what they like. Otherwise we'll all be censoring ourselves too much, don't you think?
c graham
21-10-2006
he has a ryt to be on the show i don't like darren and lillia but understand they are there for latin
wel erin and anto are there for ballroom
libby3107
21-10-2006
I agree with Xadie. We will all just have to live and let live - as long as the only strong feeling on the Anton thread are positive, or slightly bonkers
spotster
21-10-2006
But Anton was awful tonight, his jive was abysmal.
bendymixer
21-10-2006
the difference being that Darren and Lilia can dance a good standard of ballroom even though they are latin dancers. Indeed Darren danced a lot of Ballroom as a Junior - Anton is below standard in the Latin is not an all rounder and therefore I don't think that is fair on the celeb he dances with.

as you know Xadie I am no Anton lover but I never post in his appreciation thread and tonight is the first time I have posted about him this series. Indeed I avoid all the appreciation threads have no views on them other than their dancing
xadie
21-10-2006
I don't think that anyone's arguing that he doesn't have a right to be on the show. He doesn't have a right to stay beyond the ability of his partner, although the professionals often do, eg Brendan last year, his own and his partner's popularity carried him through. Jan isn't the world's best dancer, and it's hard to admit that, but he and she should go when the time is right for them. Tonight I thought that Georgina should have gone, but a lot of people seem to think that Jan was worse.
xadie
21-10-2006
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
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as you know Xadie I am no Anton lover but I never post in his appreciation thread and tonight is the first time I have posted about him this series. Indeed I avoid all the appreciation threads have no views on them other than their dancing”

bendy, I think you and I both understand and respect each other's differences of opinion and other than our opposite takes on Mr Du Beke (or Mr Beek!) I reckon we get on alright! Healthy debate can be a good thing.
bendymixer
21-10-2006
totally xadie and yes I do respect other opinions which is why I never dipmy toe in the appreciation threads.
spotster
21-10-2006
Originally Posted by xadie:
“I don't think that anyone's arguing that he doesn't have a right to be on the show. He doesn't have a right to stay beyond the ability of his partner, although the professionals often do, eg Brendan last year, his own and his partner's popularity carried him through. Jan isn't the world's best dancer, and it's hard to admit that, but he and she should go when the time is right for them. Tonight I thought that Georgina should have gone, but a lot of people seem to think that Jan was worse.”

But Anton, as a professional, should be better than his partner and help 'carry' his partner through the dance - in much the way Vincent did for Georgina. Anton tonight did Jan no favours at all and emerged the 'worst' dancer.
xadie
21-10-2006
Originally Posted by spotster:
“But Anton, as a professional, should be better than his partner and help 'carry' his partner through the dance - in much the way Vincent did for Georgina. Anton tonight did Jan no favours at all and emerged the 'worst' dancer.”

Ah, now, we don't know how bad Jan would have been without Anton's (presumed) carrying of her. Maybe he's just more subtle about it?

I've always thought Anton was probably the most supportive out of all the professionals (maybe Karen is equal) and usually does a great routine that suits his partner. Maybe he's had an off week, though!
Amytigger
21-10-2006
I don't understand this topic at all, its the equivalent of me starting a "Stop dissing Emma and Darren" thread, what WOULD be the point because at the end of the day, people will have opinions! The person who has written these comments has written some very unjust and unfair comments on behalf of both Emma and Darren.
I never say things about Anton's personality, I just don't rate him as a latin dancer. I don't see why I shouldn't have an opinion, so many people on here are nasty towards Darren and Emma, saying they shouldn't win.
Also, a lot of things said about Anton on this forum, in particular things said by bendymixer (sorry to quote your name, its just I can't think of any others) aren't aggressive or manipulative digs, they are stated facts. YES, Anton isn't good at latin, that isn't an opinion, thats a dancing fact.
stuffiemoose
22-10-2006
I love Anton....I know that he will probably go slightly earlier on in the competition this year but I hope not too soon because the show won't seem the same without him.
hmm@ds
22-10-2006
Originally Posted by spotster:
“But Anton, as a professional, should be better than his partner and help 'carry' his partner through the dance - in much the way Vincent did for Georgina. Anton tonight did Jan no favours at all and emerged the 'worst' dancer.”

Vincent & Georgina? Have they changed the pairings? I missed tonight's show.
Seymour
22-10-2006
Originally Posted by LinoleicAcid:
“That red outfit, although a rather garish colour, gave a particularly nice view from all round”



I suppose it is all a matter of taste, but I nearly fell off my barstool, I quite expected someone to call the fashion police. If I were an Anton fan I would advice him to stay away from the lycra. still it did match his Jive... disgusting.
Last edited by Seymour : 22-10-2006 at 08:20
loz2601
22-10-2006
Originally Posted by hmm@ds:
“Vincent & Georgina? Have they changed the pairings? I missed tonight's show.”

No, I think she/he just made a mistake
spotster
22-10-2006
Originally Posted by loz2601:
“No, I think she/he just made a mistake ”

Quite right, it was a slip of the keyboard Mainly due to the fact that I only think of James by a 'pet' name
Erinfan
22-10-2006
I'm a Anton fan, but the criticism he gets for his Latin is deserved I'm afraid! It's not a pretty sight!
janemarie
22-10-2006
I am an Anton fan but the criticism was just and I thought that Anton and Jan would be in the bottom two. That was a real surprsie.
Anton's forte is the ballroom so how must he feel if the samba turns up.
Think about it.
waltzingmatilda
22-10-2006
I am an Anton fan, and I would advise him to stay in the lycra as I thought
he looked gorgeous ,and as for that chest all I can say is MORE NEXT WEEK
PLEASE! I think Anton is fantastic and he can always count on my support
every step of the way, so come on you so called Anton fans STOP running him down and give him your support.
libby3107
22-10-2006
Unfortunately no chest next week as he's doing ballroom. I actually think the ferrari red suited both him and Jan, even if it was a bit OTT.

I think they need to stay in and I hope that they can get back to having fun now that the dance that they probably both dreaded is out of the way.
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