Not forgetting the Santa suit and show my hairy chest routine. BTW I agree with you about Emma and Darren.They look good and I believe they are good.

sorry I forgot to quote!! I was replying to an earlier message from Katie! Sorry about that everyone!

Excellent post. You've summed up how I feel about Emma and Darren. As you say it's that sparkle that's missing. When some couples dance they just put a smile on your face because aside from being good they just look as though they're absolutely buzzing and loving it - and that comes across to the audience and you feel emotionally involved yourself sitting at home.

I'm not saying Emma and Darren aren't having a great time - no doubt they are - but I just don't find it radiating to me yet.

I totally agree Cat...there's no suprise lol.

I do love Claire and Brendan more, they've got more excitement!

Actually I think Emma and Darren do have that sparkle. It is evident to me and many others that they are really enjoying themselves. I personally do not really want to watch sleazy routines,(and I do find them sleazy, not sexy!) Brendan and Claires jive was really rough, and quite apart from the sleaze they have to resort to rule-breaking to keep public interest. Totally boring and pathetic.

Well Dancingles we'll have to agree to disagree on Emma and Darren they don't sizzle for me - but I actually agree with that bit about sleazy routines....I don't like them either and in a pre watershed programme - neither do the BBC

Whilst I don't think that Claire and Brendan's routine was particularly sleazy (the rumba is supposed to be all about passion after all....) - I think he'll have damaged his own chances with his backstage comments about having to resort to gimmicks to get votes after the jive. He should let his dancing and choreography do that for him - he actually has a partner who looks able to dance this year - if only he'd let her

Claire's outfit was awful - but neither of them will have had any input into that... that's the wardrobe Dept - and I got the distinct impression that she was uncomfortable with how revealing it was as she kept trying to pull it shut whilst the judges were doing their worst....

"Trying too hard" - the knife by which Zoe's chances died last year. She too was good like Emma, and people kept accusing her of trying too hard to be liked.

If you look hard enough, it's often obvious why someone behaves the way they do. Emma has probably read a lot of the pre-series press bigging her up and is embarrased about it and aware of the backlash she might get because of it. Who knows, she may even have been on this forum and read how few people support her. In any case, that must put her on edge and make her feel like she needs to make extra effort on the likeability factor to win people's approval - it's not an unnatural reaction and only human. Everyone wants to be liked, most people aren't strong enough to just shrug it off and think "who cares if I'm liked or not", so they try harder to be liked.

I have a feeling there is nothing Emma can do now to win back the support of the majority of those who claim they have no chemisrty/sizzle/sexiness. Most people make up their minds about who they support in the first few weeks.

Back on topic, peeps:
For me the couple I haven't warmed to at all (despite all that so called filthy heat) is Brendan & Claire :yawn: .
I mean c'mon all that 'bad boy, bad girl' stuff is gettin' beyond tried. That Jive wasn't at all that hot (her leg movement was second to none, surely) and that rumba may have been filthy, sleeze in Craig's eyes, but to me it looked more sad really Placement of bodyparts and a lot of heavy breathing I reckon.

No way, they'll make it to the final Probably get some stick for voicing this opinion but there you go :sleep:

I've just got back and found that loads of people have replied to a post on the earlier page!

Just a couple of things, I'm sorry if I seemed irate before, that really wasn't how I intended it to come across, more mildly annoyed than furious

In response to a post by Cat123 about I shouldn't get 'worked up' about people disagreeing with me, I'm not really in the habit of getting wound up over petty things, it takes more than an internet forum discussion to make me angry, and secondly, I think this thread was purposely opened to cause an argument between the Darren fans and the 'others'. Its always the same people that make these comments about Darren and Emma, its getting a little boring really now!

So on a completely different note, I'm not warming to Claire and Brendan at all, I think she's cold and arrogant, and Brendan is just arrogant. I think he's bringing the whole show down when he does lifts then builds whole routines around NOT doing lifts! Pathetic choreography!
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Agreed - he's too self obsessed. He needs to look at how he can make his partner look good, not how he can bolster his own 'bad boy' image. :yawn:

I thought that was just me I'm not getting this supposed chemistry at all and haven't warmed to either of them - although to be honest I've never found Brendan particularly thrilling to watch, his routines sometimes seem to be more about how he looks, rather then making the celeb look as good as possible.

*runs and hides from the Brendan fans*

I was a Brendan fan but I'm just not getting it! Sorry. I also just don't warm to Emma and Darren either but its just that to me they don't sparkle in the way some of the other couples do. I'm not denying that there is a whole world of difference between their dancing and say Georgie's. It just doesn't excite me like Louisa's, MArk's, Ray's or Peter's. Nothing personal!

I can't warm to Emma, primarily because in every dance she does she appears to have to hold onto the side of one of her breasts as if it's going to pop out!

It really annoys me, and I don't know why...

I can't warm to Emma... I kinda liked her Quickstep and didn't really feel anything towards her Jive... I might have a tiny bit of understanding on the dances but not enough to make me like the two she has done that's me personally...

Also, and this is a brave thing to say as the leader of the BCPA , I'm not really warming to Claire... I'm not voting for anyone during the week and even though I would like to see Brendan I don't really want them in the final...

The only couples I have warmed to and decide to vote for on the Saturday is Vincent and Louisa and Karen and Mark... I have liked both their dances and its always a toss up of one or the other...

If someone impresses me on the Saturday I'll write the numbers down and give a vote to whoever is watching it with me and the then we vote... I never DECIDED to vote for Brendan before the competition and HAVEN'T voted for him because I didn't really shine towards their dances... I AM a Brendan fan mainly because he is my dance teacher... Some of us on here are taught by one of the professionals and feel a stronger bond to them... You can't then blast them for joining in fan discussions...

I know noone has really said it but some are hinting to it and its annoying me... I'm a crazed Vincent fan but if I feel you make a personal attack on Brendan and HAVEN'T met him I will argue (sometimes forcefully) on his side... And some of the people on here know WHY I do that... And it IS because he has done such a big thing in my life...

Wow Kaos you are so brave!

I too have defended Anton in the past - he is my teacher and regularly makes me laugh like no one else. However I have not voted for him at all this series - both in terms of phone votes as well as our own forum polls! In fact when I saw him last week all I said about his performance was, 'You are a very lucky boy!'

So just because some of us are, should we say, clique when it comes to certain celebs or pros (it is only natural that people who have the same interest get drawn together) it does not mean that we cannot be objective individuals, too.

Frodora? You're taught by... Anton?

I envy you so much!

LA... I think you need to sit down ...

Danke Frodora I know I'm brave being the Ghost of Dancer Protection (like my new title ) I need to stand bravely...

Now all I need is a sword and my overall costume... Thinking Gerald Butler in the Phantom of the Opera (he called himself a Ghost ) the red suit... Hmmmm... ....

I must admit I can't[B] BELIEVE[/b] this thread. Don't believe for one minute that I am a Emma fan, but I don't see why you can't warm to Emma. The technically-good-but-lacking-passion (usually the good ones) vs the-talentless-but-very-enthusiastic (usually the bad ones) is an argument that was used last year as well about other celebrities. There can be no doubt that Emma was effervescent in both her routines and danced pretty well to boot.

Perhaps if she clung to Darren for dear life or plodded around the dance floor totally out of time to the music she would be admired for being plucky

Well, I think they are great!
Also, someone made a comment of Emma not being able to win over the 'majority' of fans back now -would just like to point out that we, as a whole, are not the majority of SCD viewers! We are a small obsessed minority!
I think the general public probably like them very much!

i dont thik shes a brilliant dancer at all, Darren makes it look as though she is. Her poularity comes from her spice girl connection oh and the fact she is doing the official cin single.

Emma's hardly a carthorse, is she?! At least she has some rhythm, unlike some of the contestants we've seen on the show!

One couple I'm not 'getting' is Claire and Brendan - Claire isn't even that good! She looks like one of those middle-aged women you see out on the town trying to throw some shapes after one drink too many.

The Brendan thing - whenever I see him on ITT, I actually like the guy - I get the impression that he's capable of being very sweet and funny, and is genuinely a nice chap. I also think he dances really well when the professionals dance together.

I think this is what really annoys me most about him - why someone who is very talented and decent behaves like such an eejit sometimes.

I also don't like Claire terribly much - I don't think, from what I have seen so far, she is that great on the dancefloor, and I don't get this whole "sexual chemistry" thing - they get on well I think, and she's got the willpower to put up with his Brandonness(!), but when the judges went on about their rumba I was like, "huh?"

Watching the backstage bits of ITT and other bits and pieces again, there are times when I think the make-up and costumes people have not done her any favours - in the right light she looked quite glam, but there were points she really looked like mutton dressed as lamb and it wasn't pretty.

Spot on Diamondlife! and she hasn't fell on her ass yet either.

I might have agreed with you if we had only see her do ballroom where she can sort of depend on Darren to pull her round and make her look good....but her Jive proved she CAN dance. And of course her popularity stems from her being a former Spice Girl but there is no denying the girl can shake a leg

Surely that's his job? Though I think she's done pretty well, and there's not a lot he can do for her when they're actually on the dancefloor, especially in something like the Jive where she's not in hold.

I don't claim to be an expert or anything near, but she can move, she doesn't just throw her arms about (has some elegance), and picked herself up admirably from the mistake in the jive.

I don't think she's superlatively brilliant but she's good, she has talent.