I know that we have talked at length about the unfairness of the voting system, but surely it just simply makes sense to have the final 2 face the judges and they decide who leaves (like in the Maria show in front of Andrew Lloyd Webber), however, the public decide the final show's results so we still get to pick the ultimate winner.

This just seems to make sense to me and can't understand why it isn't currently the case, anyone care to enlighten me ?

The trouble is the judges aren't unbiased either. They clearly have their favourites too.

I much prefer to leave the voting as it is.

Let the judges decide who leaves...


Yep, I'd be happy to vote for that, it worked in the Marie show.

I don't agree. It's more exciting to leave it up to the public. Besides which it would take out the whole public side of the show and turn into the opinions of just 4 people instead of the millions who watch the show. It would take away the challenge of the "poor dancer" celebrity left in to produce something better the week after - to improve.. to produce something extra. Yes it's sad that Spoony & Ola left when they obviously had more to offer but that is the nature of the show... it's the unexpected...the surprises that make the show exciting... leaves you on edge.... otherwise you may as well rank the couples in week one and decide who will leave week by week from that as bar a few unexpected improvements that is what would end up happening. The overall winner will be someone who engages the audience either through amazing dancing... fantastic progression... stimulating performances.... or a combination of it all. It's sad for them but Spoony & Ola didn't engage their audience as much as other couples. In my opinion I believe this is the strongest show of talent YET in this series... I cried week one when someone had to leave... it hurts to have someone leave who wants to learn to dance... but that is the show and it's one heck of a wonderful show.

Strictly Come Dancing

Strictly = Set ...Rules...Technique..Learning.. Dedication..

Come = Excitement... Involve your audience...Personality... Warmth... Passion...Entertainment

Dancing = Dancing! Expressing yourself through your body..

Not great definitions...but I'm eating lunch at the same time

Peach
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I agree entirely

Yep agree too you simply can't have any fairer than 50/50

It's so hard though for the public not to be influenced by the judges, be it sympathy when someone gets slated or
piling praise upon praise....

I would prefer the judges to give constructive comments, not scores, so that only the public vote would decide who leaves and who stays.

Hmm... no I still like the judge score. At least then the couple who have danced technically the best have a better chance of staying in for the next week. I think that is only fair. Makes it even better when the couple who come towards the bottom of the judges vote stay in because they have become popular and entertaining to watch with the public.

I agree.

The system doesn't work perfectly but I can't imagine one that would.

And at the end of the day its about who the public want to see....and raising money for CIN!

Don't think it would work in the later stages as the judges have their own favourites too -

OK I think we'd still have lost Nicholas in Wk 1, but we'd have lost Georgie in week 2 where she was up against Mica, but who knows how it would have panned out I have a sneaky feeling it would have been Mica and Jan bottom with the judges but Anton's fan base would have kept them out of the zone...... so it would probably have been Mica and Spoony, and if the panel had been nasty to Mica we'd probably still have lost Spoony....

The Maria competition had some bizarre decisions from Andrew Lloyd Webber - where he saved the lesser talent (eg saving Siobhan who couldn't act for toffee against the excellent actress in Aoife) so there's no guarantee that the panel on SCD would make any better decisions.....

this way the public still have their say - but what I would like to see is the public's scores like we see the judges.....

As Spoony got 5 from the judges whilst Georgie got 2 we can work out that Spoony and Ola got the Lowest public vote (1) so their combined score was 6 - for Georgie & James to beat them they would have had to get at least 4 from the public (on the basis that even if they ended up with 6 as well - they will have had a higher public vote and therefore beat the others) - makes me wonder who were the other 2 couples with least public votes..... anyone a Sudoku expert and care to work it out???

For Jan and Anton to get out of the danger zone they must have scored at least 5 from the public....

OKAY - two alternatives I think would be best:
I think it would be better if the judges could decide who went out of the bottom two. Therefore the public could get their absolute faveroites though (even if they're not the best dancers) and the real gems which slide through to the bottom because people forget to vote would be saved.


OR

The bottom two have to dance again for the public and they vote again (like strictly dancer fever) - therefore the public have a chance to save the best (spoony and ola) who probably wouldn't have gone if this had happened.

no way not a good idea like they haeve 50% vote in the matter at the mo and that is enough we don't all want emma and darren to win just because of the way craig "feels" about her

I think that remark by Craig has done her so much damage with the voters

well i didn't really rate her before but no it didn't
hasn't done much for craig either

There were comments on this very subject in a similar thread earlier this week..... how about the judges scores being logged but not broadcast until the results show once the phone lines have closed and the BGP can no longer be influenced ??? The anticipation and tension would be immense !

Thing is with that idea just as many people would be moaning when the judges got rid of someone who was popular.

Also it MIGHT affect the number of votes cast by the public, which does raise money for Children in Need.

Heck, and it wouldn't be half the fun on here if we didn't have at least one result to moan about every year. Plus we can take the moral high ground whenever there is a controversial decision and whinge till we are blue in the face that we KNEW who should have been dumped. AND most years it would be pretty clear who was going to win from the start.

Yes the muppets mess it every few weeks in SCD, and I would be hugely disspointed if Ray, Mark or Anton had gone this week, BUT that is what makes it SCD.

I do think the dance off between the two couples at the bottom is a good idea and would have agreed with the second option were it not for the fact that I personally haven't thought that the best couple have won strictly dance fever yet!!! - so on that base Option 1 would I believe get us - the real adoring public - being entertained by the people who show real dance talent and not the clump around brigade and then it remains as true entertainment not comedy!

I don't want to keep watching embarrassingly bad performances just because some daft people fancy the dancers. It's true the judges have favourites, but their favourites tend to differ and they never favour the people who are genuinely bad at dancing.
As for Children In Need, it's lovely that a good cause benefits as a side issue of the show, but that's all it should be - a side issue. The BBC has its own little poll tax known as the licence fee with which to produce entertaining viewing – and this is a prime Saturday-night slot. Let's not delude ourselves that it's about charity - we can all send Children In Need a cheque any time we like.
I know we're all different, but I like to feel there's a sense of fair play. If it's a popularity contest (like Big Brother), I'm happy with that; but if it's supposed to be about learning to dance, it annoys me when it becomes about favourites, as it means talented lesser-knowns (pros OR celebs) can never get a look in. I trust the judges' sense of fair play here more than the public's.
Last edited by The Swampster : 25-10-2006 at 14:22

Why not let choose us which are the best? And the lowest two ....... let`s decide the judges, who have to leave.

Possible after another dance?

Aggh - they can't change it, then I'd have nothing to moan about and I'd be bereft.

Although, thinking about it, I'm sure I'd think of something to whinge about

oh please, in an ideal world, the second show would be dominated by the two weakest performances limping round the dancefloor, do we really want that.

At least we'd have the benefit of knowing one of them would definitely be going!

The Judges aren't always completely unbiased themselves, but I think they should still have a 50/50 say in the contestants' final scores.

You have to trust their opinions on professional dance skills more than the favouritism often displayed by the voting public, the same public that voted the sack of potatoes that is Christopher Parker into the first series final!