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I love Emma and Darren. I think they have great chemistry. I love them,
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I don't think they are looking for your sympathy. Emma and Darren took all the comments and criticisms on board, didn't whinge or moan or get abusive about the comments, unlike others. And if they are overmarked, on what was choreographically a good routine, how about Georgina getting an 8 from Len, when Emma and Darren only got 7 !! Funny that no-one seems to be so concerned about that! And Georgina certainly didn't seem to know what a heel lead was either!
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I have no sympathy when these celebs come on and say "we had no time to train" tough
They know they are going on the show so why book loads of other work in ? Or don't moan about it and do what James did last year or rather what Camilla did. I don't rate Darren and Emma as a partnership it just doesn't sparkle they are over marked by all of the judges and I wouldn't pick up the phone to vote I can tell you. Steady girl! If you still had any sort of career in the music industry, you wouldn't be doing any of this or SCD. |
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She wasn't "banging on " about anything, she was simply answering questions put to her by the BBC interviewer, which was then edited. Do you really not understand how reporters and interviewers work.????
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Should the celebs be getting extra marks because their pro dancer choreographed a better routine..... ?
Granted it may have been more technically demanding which could merit the extra points but not when they fail to keep up with those high standards, surely ? |
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I think a slight slump for Emma is the best thing that could have happened to her. If she was top every week, people would go off her (just as they did Zoe). Now we have a competition on our hands, and she will get genuine votes.
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I think a slight slump for Emma is the best thing that could have happened to her. If she was top every week, people would go off her (just as they did Zoe). Now we have a competition on our hands, and she will get genuine votes.
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Personally I think Craig is marking Emma high because she is Emma.
I think she could come out without Darren, wiggle about and he would still mark her as highly. However the Judges are no more biased than the general public, who if they haven't heard of the celebrity and don't like the professional dancer, won't be voting for them no matter how well they danced. It's sad but true. |
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Woah... when did all this happen? It seems to me that because Emma has been hyped up, the judges are deliberately over-marking... however, this could with any of the couples, but people are noticing because Emma has been, as I say, hyped up. It has become an issue for Emma to get marked highly among people now, just because she has been noticed a lot. I don't think this is very fair, and people and, indeed, the judges, should think for themselves. I think we should ALL consider the judges marks, and not say she was overmarked just because she is Emma. Look at their dance, not who they are. And as for the questioning of Darren's teaching abilities, well, I'm sorry, but I find that purely insulting. He is an amazing teacher, choreographer, as are all the pros. I don't think we should start questioning them as we do not know what goes on behind the scenes.
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I did look at the dance and she danced no better than Jan,but her praises were sung far higher by Craig.
Darren is an excellent dancer and has done a remarkable job. |
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I'm afraid I have to disagree. Emmas dance was way better than Jans, both lacked the heel leads, but Jans was littered with other mistakes, which she said was due to her nerves and which she admitted. She was also frequently out of time with the music, which Emma was not. Choreographically, it was a much easier routine for Jan, with more basic steps, and there was no comparison between the two. I don't think anyone that I can see was criticising Darren as a teacher. His record as a top trainer among competitors speaks for itself, so I don't believe anyone could realistically do that.
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I would love for people to give Emma and Darren a break, and Darren and Lilia. I know people are expressing their opinions but it always seems to be these.
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Originally Posted by Dancingles
She wasn't "banging on " about anything, she was simply answering questions put to her by the BBC interviewer, which was then edited. Do you really not understand how reporters and interviewers work.????
Touch a nerve? Is she your favourite? Does she care? Ok she wasn't bangin' on. She was having " a bit of a whinge." Is that better? Roger Black had "business commitments" which restricted the amount of practice he could fit in when he was in this programme a couple of years ago but didn't make any excuses. Last edited by Doghouse Riley : 29-10-2006 at 23:04. |
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I don't think they are looking for your sympathy. Emma and Darren took all the comments and criticisms on board, didn't whinge or moan or get abusive about the comments, unlike others. And if they are overmarked, on what was choreographically a good routine, how about Georgina getting an 8 from Len, when Emma and Darren only got 7 !! Funny that no-one seems to be so concerned about that! And Georgina certainly didn't seem to know what a heel lead was either!
(I do tend to think that the judges work out the overall score for a dance first, and then divvy up the points between the 4 of them sometimes to attract contraversy but that could just be me being cynical).The judges know that if they come down heavilly on a celeb, they are more likely to attact viewer votes. Perhaps Spoony was a deliberate sacrifice to bring it home to people that the middle places are not safe - and encourage the phone votes ... But, I think they worked out that if Georgina had a good score - got a maximum of 5 from Craig and didn't end up in the bottom 2 chances are she wouldn't attract the sympathy vote - and would more than likely be out. In this case, her inflated score was to help her be voted out, not keep her in. |
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How "I work"? could you explain what you mean??
What nerve?? What does it matter who is my favourite, I can support or defend whoever I want. Does WHO care? You really aren't not overgifted at making clear, pertinent and useful comments are you?? |
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How "I work"? could you explain what you mean??
What nerve?? What does it matter who is my favourite, I can support or defend whoever I want. Does WHO care? You really aren't not overgifted at making clear, pertinent and useful comments are you?? "Useful" comments? Who's gonna "use" them? and you're criticising me? |
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I'm criticising the fact that you don't make it clear what you are asking or saying. I would have said constructive instead of useful if I thought you might understand that.
And you still haven't answered my questions or made any clarifications, so I will assume you are not able to. |
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I would love for people to give Emma and Darren a break, and Darren and Lilia. I know people are expressing their opinions but it always seems to be these.
Anton and Brendan have had their fair share of criticism on this forum too ... |
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I'm criticising the fact that you don't make it clear what you are asking or saying. I would have said constructive instead of useful if I thought you might understand that.
And you still haven't answered my questions or made any clarifications, so I will assume you are not able to. So I'll spell it out for you seeing you've a problem "Touch a nerve?" 'cos you rushed to Ms Bunton's defence. "Is she your favourite?" From the tone of your post I think she must be. "Does she care?" Meaning will ms Bunton be interested in your support or my criticism? I'm sure she's "far too busy" Happy now? This is a just a message board, no need to get over protective of any of those competing on SCD Try to remember that it's no good getting "huffy" over a direct response to your post, if you quoted someone else's to them in the first place. Last edited by Doghouse Riley : 29-10-2006 at 23:24. |
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No need to get defensive there i don't think emma was not spot on this week so didn't deserve the marks she got
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No need to get defensive there i don't think emma was not spot on this week so didn't deserve the marks she got
Ms Bunton is "safe" on SCD until after 17th November the night of "Children in Need" even if she falls flat on her face in the middle of a dance, the BBC will see to that. |
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Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley
Correct!
Ms Bunton is "safe" on SCD until after 17th November the night of "Children in Need" even if she falls flat on her face in the middle of a dance, the BBC will see to that. |
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Originally Posted by Dancingles
I don't think they are looking for your sympathy. Emma and Darren took all the comments and criticisms on board, didn't whinge or moan or get abusive about the comments, unlike others. And if they are overmarked, on what was choreographically a good routine, how about Georgina getting an 8 from Len, when Emma and Darren only got 7 !! Funny that no-one seems to be so concerned about that! And Georgina certainly didn't seem to know what a heel lead was either!
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As a neutral observer, who hasn't thrown her support to anyone as yet, I think that the problem is not so much with Emma or Louisa but with the judges and their overreactions to the way that they seem to ignore their mistakes. We need to keep this in mind before abusing the celebrities and direct our ires to those- judges- that deserve them.
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What peeved me was the judges laid into them about technique, but still doled out 7s and 8s like Smarties.
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but that could just be me being cynical).