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buntyj
04-11-2006
Personally, but don't attack me, I do not understand what the problem is with Emma doing the CIN single. She has made it as fair as possible by including all the other celebs.

I just can't wait until all the critics of Emma on this forum become aware that her album is being released on the 4th December. Oops.
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by buntyj:
“Personally, but don't attack me, I do not understand what the problem is with Emma doing the CIN single. She has made it as fair as possible by including all the other celebs.I just can't wait until all the critics of Emma on this forum become aware that her album is being released on the 4th December. Oops.
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Err..

"She's" included no one. The BBC will have commisioned and recorded the video, and decided what you'll see of who, she only had to turn up and sing.


No need to buy her CD, the video will be on "Youtube" later the same night as CIN.

Oops!
princess_katy
04-11-2006
I don't see the issue myself! She's a singer and also involved in another program (ie scd) which is also for CIN....she has a beautiful voice and wouldn't just be doing it for promoting herself! Emma and Darren critics are SO annoying me!
buntyj
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Err..

"She's" included no one. The BBC will have commisioned and recorded the video, and decided what you'll see of who, she only had to turn up and sing.


No need to buy her CD, the video will be on "Youtube" later the same night as CIN.

Oops!”

Er, oh yeah, I forgot you were an employee of 19 Managment. You cannot just let others have their say can you?

And actually, get your facts straight, the video is already on youtube. But, that is if you want to deprive charity of the money.
*Nikie*
04-11-2006
[quote=Doghouse Riley]
Originally Posted by *Nikie*:
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This is really making me smile.

Right. I'll expain my views on Emma Bunton.

The BBC should have had her as a competitor on SCD or do the "Charity video" not both, it will distort the voting.
But the BBC don't care. They think by combining the two it'll boost the ratings of the programme because of their obsession with beating ITV on Saturday nights.
They obviously don't care the effect that it will have on the competion or the chances of the other competitors. I also don't think she's that brilliant (just an opinion) and will get all the help and assistance to stay in the competition from the BBC they can give, until at least after CIN on 17th November

I first expressed my views on an Emma Bunton thread. "All hell was let loose" and I got a lot of catty comments, as I hadn't realised it was a; "We love Emma Bunton thread."
So I posted something else on a diffferent one. Then some smart assed comments to me on that new thread someone had started were made by someone who'd followed me over from the original thread. So tonight I posted my opinions on yet another thread, the necessity for which you were querying.
Now "Emma fans" can't have it both ways. If they don't like my comments on this third thread then tough, I've done as much "accomodating" as I'm prepared to do.”

Thats fine with you 'accomodating' (or whatever you mean by that) Just don't personally attack us when we display our opinion. By the way I haven't said the BBC isn't biased.

Originally Posted by buntyj:
“ Personally, but don't attack me, I do not understand what the problem is with Emma doing the CIN single. She has made it as fair as possible by including all the other celebs.

I just can't wait until all the critics of Emma on this forum become aware that her album is being released on the 4th December. Oops.”

With the CIN thing Emma could have chose not to inculde all the SCD people; then she'd be criticised for it. And because she did the Anti-Emma's think she is trying to plug more votes for SCD. Emma just can't win on this forum can she? Some people just like to be negative and put a bad effect on the thread. By the way Its making me smile too!
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2006
[quote=*Nikie*]
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
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Just don't personally attack us when we display our opinion.”

I'm smiling again!

No one's "attacking you," all this has developed because someone "suggested" that this thread shouldn't have been started.
"sweeping statements" suggesting "stuff" which is completely inaccurate carry no weight when anyone can scroll back and look at what was actually said. If they're that bothered, that is.
Doghouse Riley
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by buntyj:
“Er, oh yeah, I forgot you were an employee of 19 Managment. You cannot just let others have their say can you?

And actually, get your facts straight, the video is already on youtube. But, that is if you want to deprive charity of the money.”

I've already posted links to the "part" video on another thread. Sorry "no points" for that remark.

The whole performance from the night will no doubt appear after someone has recorded it on the CIN night.

Don't play the "charity card" I'm not impressed.

Ms Bunton will do very well out of the situation in ancillary benefits.

Why not let others have a different opinion and just post on the "I love Emma threads?" You have that choice.
Just a suggestion, mind.
*Nikie*
04-11-2006
[quote=Doghouse Riley]
Originally Posted by *Nikie*:
“I'm smiling again!

No one's "attacking you," all this has developed because someone "suggested" that this thread shouldn't have been started.
"sweeping statements" suggesting "stuff" which is completely inaccurate carry no weight when anyone can scroll back and look at what was actually said. If they're that bothered, that is.”

Ok so what are you doing now then may I ask with that previous post? I could take quite a lot of offence to that If I could really be bothered to argue. This forum has become so petty. Doghouse Riley, did you actually read what I posted about the "suggestion" or do I have to quote myself. I think I may have to actually "suggest" it no, like Glen, because this is just competely pointless and its going round in circles.
*Nikie*
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I've already posted links to the "part" video on another thread. Sorry "no points" for that remark.

The whole performance from the night will no doubt appear after someone has recorded it on the CIN night.

Don't play the "charity card" I'm not impressed.

Ms Bunton will do very well out of the situation in ancillary benefits.

Why not let others have a different opinion and just post on the "I love Emma threads?" You have that choice.
Just a suggestion, mind.”

So you don't support CIN then I take it?

Oh and with the I love Emma threads, ther seems to hardly be any? Wonder why that could be? Not hard to guess is it?
Rachel Green
04-11-2006
I thought Emma was brilliant tonight and deserved the marks she's got.
As an Emma fan I did think last week she was overmarked by one or two.

All I'd say at this point is that she's got the talent she just needs to spice the dances up.
buntyj
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“I've already posted links to the "part" video on another thread. Sorry "no points" for that remark.

The whole performance from the night will no doubt appear after someone has recorded it on the CIN night.

Don't play the "charity card" I'm not impressed.

Ms Bunton will do very well out of the situation in ancillary benefits.

Why not let others have a different opinion and just post on the "I love Emma threads?" You have that choice.
Just a suggestion, mind.”

Oh, I do apologise. I was trying so hard to impress you though, honestly.

And, just let me have an opinion without thinking that you always have to be right. Let sleeping dogs lie.
*Nikie*
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by buntyj:
“Oh, I do apologise. I was trying so hard to impress you though, honestly.

And, just let me have an opinion without thinking that you always have to be right. Let sleeping dogs lie.”

Thank you, I agree! Let us have our opinion and you stick to yours, because this is yet another thread with megativity about Emma and Darren, which in my personal opinion I think is not needed.
jules_28
04-11-2006
I'm confused? (and very hesitant to post!)
I've come on this thread to say how much I enjoyed Emma and Darren's dancing tonight!
It's as simple as that, I don't want anyone telling me I shouldn't of liked it, I want them to accepct that I liked it! At the same time, I accept that others didn't like it!!
Elisabeth92
04-11-2006
Yay, just what we need, another "let's all bash Emma because she's obviously 'favoured' by the judges thread!" Seriously, it's getting old... get over it, they're good.
olivej
04-11-2006
I would also like to second what jules_28 said and just say I to enjoyed their viennesse waltz
Cally's mum
04-11-2006
Originally Posted by Elisabeth92:
“Yay, just what we need, another "let's all bash Emma because she's obviously 'favoured' by the judges thread!" Seriously, it's getting old... get over it, they're good.”

I couldn't agree more, Elizabeth. It's what sours these boards. There are celebs (and pros) on whom I'm not keen or simply have no interest in, but I simply don't enter those threads (why would I want to? True, I have had a look at one thread tonight and made a comment but simply said I was disappointed with the performance and left it mostly at that) and would never dream of starting a thread about someone simply to have a go at them (and neither would I go into such a thread unless it was to defend the couple). I don't understand the motivations of people who do.

By the way, I liked Darren and Emma tonight (but also loved Ray and Camilla, Carol and Matthew and adored Mark and Karen! I was also gutted to see Jan and Anton go ... )
Last edited by Cally's mum : 04-11-2006 at 23:11
Elisabeth92
05-11-2006
I know, Cally's mum, it gives off a very, very bad vibe to new members, if they come and see people making new threads for bashing purposes, and then us lot just trying to defend them the best we can, even though we have now become seriously out-numbered!

I only enter such threads to defend the couples, I never join in the bashing, I simply state my opinion...
Tilly W
05-11-2006
Emma and Darren where amazing tonight as always, great performance fantastic choreography as always from Darren.

What is wrong with everyone, nearly almost every thread is to slate Emma what is your problem??
Elisabeth92
05-11-2006
I'm going through them... I've found about 6 seperate threads already... oh dear me, this is ridiculous :P
di60
05-11-2006
Doesn't that tell you something then Elizabeth? Are we all so wrong in not sharing you sycophantic view of Emma....SCD is supposed to be celebrities 'learning' to dance...she trained at the Sylvia Young school and had an unfair disadvantage from the start...........I cant beleive anybody believes she is doing this for charity
Cally's mum
05-11-2006
Originally Posted by di60:
“Doesn't that tell you something then Elizabeth? Are we all so wrong in not sharing you sycophantic view of Emma....SCD is supposed to be celebrities 'learning' to dance...she trained at the Sylvia Young school and had an unfair disadvantage from the start...........I cant beleive anybody believes she is doing this for charity”

What it tells people is that there are some very vindictive posters who enjoy nothing more than slating someone. I personally do not have a 'sycophantic view' of Emma. I like the couple but my favourites are Mark and Karen and I also like Ray and Camilla and Carol and Matthew. I was upset to lose Anton and Jan tonight as I thought them a lovely couple and Jan was improving.

As for the 'advantage' (she can't have an unfair 'disadvantage' !!) she allegedly has - give it a rest. Louisa trained at the same school (and within the last few years). Emma trained there - what - 10-15 years ago??? You can forget a lot in that time! Not to mention the fact that she did not train in the samba, the foxtrot, the jive, the waltz etc etc et. What they undoubtedly trained in was movement and modern dance!!! How the hell is that going to help in ballroom? Anyone with natural rythm will have an advantage (like Mark or Ray - both of whom possess it in spades). You might just as well say that Claire has an unfair advantage because she rides and that means she's limber!!! It's all nonsense.

All this slating (of Emma or any of the celebrities or pros) is very unhealthy and very off-putting. It engenders bad feeling regardless of all the excuses those who are indulging in the nastiness make abolut it being their right. Of course it's everyone's right to criticise performances - but there's a way of doing it that isn't unpleasant and downright nasty. Unfortunately it seems to be endemic on these boards (and not just on the SCD boards either). It's a sad reflection on those who indulge in it and it could deter others who might want to join in for the first time from doing so because they don't want to become embroiled in something like this.
dinosaur05
05-11-2006
Im starting to find all this 'biased judges' stuff ridiculous! The judge who is supposedly biased towards Emma marked her lower than Arlene and Bruno did!
It was 8,9,8,9 which means the judges were mostly in agreement -it was an 8/9 dance.
Her extension was the best of the night!
I liked Ray and Camillas waltz but his fleckrls were a bit more stilted than Emma and Darrens - I would have thought they would have got an 8 and 3 nines actually.
Anyone else think that Len was uneccessarily rude to Darren Bennett? Darren only seemed to be having a laugh with him -it was supposed to be lighthearted! And then he is called a silly, little , sheffield..............What was that all about Len?
Tilly W
05-11-2006
Yes I think Len should apologise for that.
I think everyone is just slating Emma for no particular reason they are just trying to find excuses and to be honest its getting boring because its the same untrue, unnecessary judgements of her. They all have an advantage in one way or another what ever they do. But Emma did not do Ballroom ad Latin which is totally different so give up with the boring criticism.
*Nikie*
05-11-2006
Originally Posted by jules_28:
“I'm confused? (and very hesitant to post!)
I've come on this thread to say how much I enjoyed Emma and Darren's dancing tonight!
It's as simple as that, I don't want anyone telling me I shouldn't of liked it, I want them to accepct that I liked it! At the same time, I accept that others didn't like it!!”

Lol This thread got turned into a negative one, by some people. Your totally right that we shouldn't be told what our opinions should be and we should all have different opinions, otheriwse this would be a very boring place.

Originally Posted by Eliasbeth92:
“I'm going through them... I've found about 6 seperate threads already... oh dear me, this is ridiculous :P”

Totally agree, what is wrong with this place. I also agree with you Tilly and Cally's mum even though I haven't quoted you, the 'Oh she's been dance school trained' criticism is wearing very thin. Other celebrities have been dance trained yet your not criticising them are you.
olivej
05-11-2006
Originally Posted by Tilly W:
“Yes I think Len should apologise for that.
I think everyone is just slating Emma for no particular reason they are just trying to find excuses and to be honest its getting boring because its the same untrue, unnecessary judgements of her. They all have an advantage in one way or another what ever they do. But Emma did not do Ballroom ad Latin which is totally different so give up with the boring criticism.”

agree what Len said or started to say to Darren was unnecessary.

Emma has been to stage school but she certainly didnt learn ballroom or latin and to say she has an advantage is ridiculous, Louisa has also been to stage school and I dont see her getting the slating that Emma is getting.

Learning ballroom and latin is not easy (I am trying to learn at the moment) and I think Emma is doing fantastically well and she could do with some support not all the bitching

If you dont like Darren and Emma why come into posts dedicated to them??
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