Darren is my favourate so nothing to do with disliking 'Emma and Darren'
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seeing as the husband of Posh played with Peter Schmeicle for years at Man U.....apart from anything else, thought it was a bit tactless.

But were Carol and Matthew

or maybe cissy she's too busy doing the rounds at 'Oxfam'

Give the Emma bashing a rest will you its getting throughly boring, ok so you dont like her, I do for one and alot of others do as well and they same old comments are getting wheeled out and repeated

ITS GETTING BORING!!

Yeah, but they're having so much fun doing it!

Well I dont think its much fun at all really. I just wish people would change the record to be honest and it cant be much fun for the celebs and pros to read it either

Nope, there's really no need for it..

I don't know if Carol and Matthew were there... were they, weren't they? But why is it Emma's fault if they weren't? And what relevance does that have anyways?

I'm not sure whether you can call the "Me, David and the boys" comment was a ploy by the BBC to assist Emma as they showed United fans supporting Michael and other supporting messages for other competitors.

But I do think there is bias shown by the BBC.

I've mentioned elsewhere that in the first place the BBC should not have chosen Emma Bunton to do a CIN CD and video and have her as a competitor in a dance competition at the same time and then plug the video on the SCDT2 programme.

It should be a level playing field for all competitors and how can it be when she's getting all this attention?

Now the "Emma lovers" will get all "uptight" over this.
But I'm not saying it is her fault. It will help her revive a faded and dying career and she'd have been daft to turn it down.

But it shows that the BBC are more interested in pushing up the ratings than respecting the integrity of what should be a fair competion.
No one would answer my questions on the other thread when I suggested clear evidence of bias shown tonight. But then they're all Emma fans, difficult to say anything critical, it's all; "If you can't say nice things, say nothing!" You have to smile.

Firstly Emma and Darren's dance, does anyone believe it was worth just one point less than Ray's and Camilla's?

I've also suggested that the BBC who are promoting Emma hard and would not want her to go out of the competition before 17th November CIN night are using every opportunity to help her.
I've also said they see Louise as the greatest threat to Emma for the "pop" vote.

Now for the latest bit of BBC "spin"

Each girl received both positive and negative remarks tonight from one or other of the judges after their performances. No argument there.

In the "results" programme one clip for each competitor of a different judge's remarks were shown, as Bruce said "to help the viewers make up their minds."
Obviously these clips of comments will have been chosen by the programme's producer.

The worst comment about Louisa was shown and the best for Emma.
"What's wrong with this picture?"

Well it was less than subtle..

I just cannot believe how cynical people are.

sorry wrong thread
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"Realistic" I'd say - well put Doghouse

Who said it was/wasn't Emma's fault ? I merely asked if they were in the video. Besides which, you were the one quoting who was/wasn't in the video on the original post.

A lot of Emma fans are getting so touchy there's hardly a thread left on these boards where people can say anything without being accused of Emma-bashing.

Lighten up, for goodness sake - its supposed to be entertainment

I've seen a bit of the video and noticed only Craig for the judges. He's featured in quite a few scenes as well so I think he's the only judge in it

Me either, Emma's celeb friend leaves a good luck message and obviously, it must be an evil plot by the bbc to get everyone to vote for Emma.

Yep, I said who was in the video because somebody suggested that Craig was in the video because he 'favours' Emma.

And we only get touchy because there's threads everywhere which are dedicated to Emma bashing, and whether you realise it or not, that is what you are doing. Give them a break...

I know it's your opinion, but if I expressed my opinion, I'm sure there'd be an uproar among Matt/Carol and Mark/Karen fans, so I keep quiet, for the benefit of the friendliness and so on of DS

I'm furious. What does Lady Becks know about ballroom dancing. How dare she comment on a foxtrot with no heel turns..

Whether people like to admit it or not, Emma has an unfair advantage over the other celebs because of her CIN involvement. Is it her fault, I don't think so but the fact remains!

Explain, please..... exactly how was I "bashing" them

I didn't say you were with that post, it was a general comment about the community here... but I'm sure I'd find something, should I flick back a couple of pages... or even on this page, but I don't think so yet..

As I have posted elsewhere, yes, in my view,as a dance teacher, Emma and Darren were worth their mark. In fact, I do not believe it was worth any less than Ray and Camilla as a dance. So I do disagree with you there, Doghouse.

Emma only received half a sentence which could be construed as in any way criticism,and even then the judge (Len) said it was "a wow of a dance",whereas Louisa had quite a few negative comments to be honest, and her salsa wasn't great, steps Ok but no real "feel". So I don't believe in all honesty that that is a valid criticism of the editing. I would stress too that of course, none of the dancers has any control over this,although I know you were not blaming them personally for this.

It is a shame if this is affecting peoples view, because I don't actually think the BBC need to "promote" Emma to be honest, if that is what they are trying to do, because she does have genuine dance talent. I could understand them maybe wanting to do that if she didn't, but they should realise it isn't necessary, as realistically she should be in the show for at least a few weeks yet. It will never be a real level playing field when some have more talent for dance than others anyway.

I think overall the couples were correctly placed tonight, so I personally don't have a problem with the marks allocated.

I agree with others I don't think a recorded message from 'Posh' will sway the public one way or the other.

Now if Johnny Depp had been on supporting someone (doesn't matter who) then I might have been tempted!

Re Posh supporting Emma - no problem, Mark had Tuffers and no one's moaning about that. My only problem with it was wondering why Posh felt the need to dress up like the Queen delivering the Christmas day message to record a 15 second bit of film

Re Emma's video - Two judges are in American part of the week and Arlene's rehursing Sound of Music at the moment, probably couldn't fit it into her schedule. Carol is based in Scotland and it might not have been possible for her to be there. All the competitors have schedules and some just couldn't fit it in - some of the suggestions of bias etc are getting a bit ridiculous now

LMAO!!! Yes, she did! *laughs hysterically*

Hmmm.

I'm still of the opinion that the comment on Louisa was the worst of those made by the four judges and on Emma the most complimentary.
It is inescapable that those remarks about all four competitors were included by the producer, designed not just to "help" the viewers as stated by Bruce (but in the case of the two upon whom I'm commenting) really as an attempt to influence them.
Why were these remarks included at all?
All the viewing public had an opportunity to see the dances.

The only justification could be that the BBC think their "target audience" has the memory span of a goldfish. (they may be right with some).

Also to suggest "it isn't ever going to be a level playing field because of differences is ability" isn't really a reason to defend the BBC, because this should be the last of the competitors' problems, should it not?

My complaint is the BBC are influencing the balance and running of this programme to boost the ratings because they want to always beat ITV and X-factor. You don't have to be a dance teacher to recognise "an agenda."

I really don’t care who wins, it’s just good entertainment. But despite what they say “to camera” and it all gets edited anyway to project the balance the producer wishes to achieve, I bet a few of the competitors aren’t exactly best pleased with the situation.

I'm wondering why (if they did) the BBC though it could justify the expense to send a camera crew to Spain to record such a short message of support for just one particular competitor.