Do you know I really do blame the BBC for these unhappy feelings on SCD.

Emma shouldn't be doing the children in need song as well as being in SCD it feels like a conflict of interests for the BBC.

Its in there interests for her to stay in the competition at least until the children in need day is over.

Then whether or not anyone on the judges is biased there is always that underlying feeling that something is going on.

Its totally not her fault but its human nature for blame to be laid.

I'm laying mine at the door of the BBC
Last edited by diyqueen : 05-11-2006 at 16:32

There is something rather unsavoury about Emma appearing in SCD and doing the single (even if it is for charity...it still raises her profile)...plus CRH appears in the video for a split sec holding a score (which raises his profile)

Circle the Wagons!

You can expect some grief from the huge "Emma Bunton fan club" who stalk this board in packs, seeking out dissenting posters and castigating them severely. I still have the scars for saying the same thing.

You and me both DR - it seems to have an opinion on ANYTHING other than the Emma Darren partnership is allowed - but woe be tide you if you dare to comment on the twosome!!!!!!!!

I reckon that, this being the Beeb, they would have checked out the regulations first and wouldn't do anything dodgy.

Having said that, I think it's a bit close for comfort.

I wonder if she'll be doing the single on the results show and ITT near CIN time....

Its a pleasure being in your company DHR and TT.......if the judges jobs come up-I'm sure they'll have no problem finding the sort of favoured opions they seek on this forum........
Last edited by di60 : 05-11-2006 at 17:20

Regulations?

Regulations?

Garlic Bread?

It's a variety programme! There ain't any "rules!"

By the way diyqueen...I'm going purely by your screen name.....but how good are you at putting up shelves?

This series is no different to the previous three - judges have always rowed, Brendan's always been Brendan, the 'wrong' celeb' has been evicted, the judges have marked people down for being bad dancers and yet the public have saved them (Christopher Park anyone?), etc etc etc.


Conflict of interest? In what way? It makes perfect sense for her to do the CIN song and be on SCD which is raising money for CIN. Would make far less sense for anyone else to do it. Imagine if you were fundraising for charity and had the chance to use an ex-Spice Girl who happens to be on an audience-grabbing Saturday night show........


Not particularly. It's in their interests to raise a lot of money for CIN through voting, flogging the CIN single or having people sit in vats of baked beans for a week. Doesn't matter whether she goes out next week or stays 'til the final. If she goes out, she'll still be on ITT and, arguably, could have more time to spend promoting the CIN single.


Craig has always said he likes her - because of her dancing. He's also said that Louisa could be serious competition for her. And today on BBC2, Craig said that Mark was very good and could win it.

There's always been a bias with the judges - a bias towards the celebs who can dance!


I don't think there's anything to blame anyone for. It's a cracking Saturday night entertainment show which is superb to watch as celebs learn (or not) how to dance and has the major advantage of actually giving 50% of the voting revenue to Children in Need. How many shows can boast that?

Yes, I'm sure it makes perfect sense... to Emma Bunton..well and the BBC because it's good for the ratings, which are more important than creating a level playing field for all competitors before they step on the dance floor, if they were the slightest interest in the programme being a true competition, rather than "just a bit of fun."

If you don't understand how much the BBC's "target audience" (not dance fans) will be influenced by the situation then I suggest you're missing something now.

On CIN night when she'll be there don't doubt it, Our "Tel" will probaby be telling the audience "Now don't forget to all vote for Emma tomorrow night." Possibly not, but the very fact that a few million people will be seeing her video will cause a biased reaction in the voting. I'd be surprised if Emma didn't poll the most public votes on 18th November programme even if she fell flat on her face in the middle of her dance.

I am not a huge Emma fan - but I don't really think theres a conflict of interest for the show and the single. Everyone was in the single - its just shes the most famous and a singer.

Also its all for charity - I mean I know its a competition but really I don't think it should be taken THAT seriously (even if Jan does!)

Besides the final of scd is long after CIN, and most of the public would have forgotten what Emma has done - no.

Yeah and sings throughout the video, the others don't even go "la la" in the background.
She sings on the CD, She's been interviewed, photographed and hawked around for weeks, even she said it was making it difficult for her to find time to train (more sympathy votes there). Must have been just like being a "Spice Girl" again. She'll be loving it and who can blame her? and we've not even had her "starring" in CIN night yet.

Conflict of interests by the BBC?

Nah!

It's "all fer charity innit?"

"Ballroom Dance Competition?"

"What Ballroom Dance Competition?"
Last edited by Doghouse Riley : 05-11-2006 at 19:14

Err... Yes

I'm sure that's what any competitor who gets voted out will think too.

I don't give two tosses about Emma but these nit picking and say 'oh it's so unfair!' threads are becoming ridiculous...

Agreed.
I am an Emma fan but I dont get out my flaming pitchfork at the mention of a bad commnet or so about her and Darren (as suggested).
Its just that she always seems to be getting moaned at about the same thing -I understand the OP's point.
Just dont see what the big deal is -I genuinely think if it was any of the other contestants releasing the single we wouldnt have all this hoohah!
Anyway, we have all said our pice on this numerous times -think we should just agree to disagree.

Thankyou, I think I may just start a new thread to this effect.

PLEASE DON'T!

From experience over the last few days, let's face it, starting threads with things like "it's not x's fault" or whatver, just sparks MORE arguments.

There are people who are never going to think that she's not somehow in cahoots with the Beeb, but starting another thread is NOT going to change their minds or get rid of the ridiculousness flying around: it will add to it.

Don't bother: best thing to do is just ignore silly people/threads. The ignore function works beautifully!

(I'm not an emma fan but the constant nitpicking is annoying me, too)
Last edited by sarah-flute : 05-11-2006 at 19:51

So who's your favourite then?


I could say more, oh so much more, but you're so wide of the mark with your interpretation - not to mention your apparent lack of understanding about how the scoring system works when it comes to adding points from judges to public points - that it would serve no purpose.


I'll be buying the CIN single (it will go nicely with the Comic Relief Peter Kay one ) and it will be fun to see the celebs and pro dancers - and even Craig - larking about on the video.


(And just so you don't think I'm some rabid Emma fan, I'm not.)

yep totally agree

the producershave also gone bonkers thoug!!

see the bbc and itt take note thread! lots arent happy about this series!

Emma is not my fav either...but about 3rd/4th.

however, as I have said here before, my chap is a mate of hers, he spoke to her last week, she is a lovely girl, and what you see is what you get. She loves the show, is not trying to get votes, and is justhappy doing the show.

For the billioneth time I shall say the cynicism of people on DS this year is astounding me. (tho's no offence OP, but it does seem to be the same people starting the same old post) And after lurking for years, i thought I had seen it all!

I think any cynicism on behalf of posters here is a culmanitive effect of watching this show (and shows similar to it) and seeing how the P that B manipulate what is shown and the interpetation put on things.
SCD and the ilk now seem to have to follow a formula - you have the judges arguing amongst themselves, you have the over personal commets, you have the contestants answering the judges back, you have 'shock' eviction near the begining of the show basically just to encourage you to vote - because if your favourites go out you've no one to blame but yourself if you haven't remortgaged your house to finace the phone votes, you have the 'dark horse' coming up in the final weeks to make it look as if the winner isn't a foregone conclusion, you have the plucky trier who is marked down but kept in by the public (let face it, if the viewers know that if the judges slate someone, then people are going to vote for them to stay in then sure as eggs the P that B do!). Everything that is done is done to appease the great God ratings
There's the wording used in the VT clips - last night Tess said 'we've had walkouts' and the VT showed Ray leaving the studio. Yes, technically he had walked out - but only for a minute or so - nothing so dramatic as they made it sound. You have the sob stories until you feel like a wrung out dish cloth!

Yes, probably people are more cynical - but that is because they have made us so - and we're still only beginers when compared to them!

Do you all really think that 100% of people only vote in this show because of children in need ?

That is an insignificance to most people Iwould think most people would vote if all the money went to the bbc

I'm fantastic at putting up shelves

Can I shelter with you also? I made the grave mistake of expressing my opinion (my opinion, the one I'm entirely entitiled to hold, and express if I wish!) about Darren and lordy you'd have thought I'd kicked a puppy in the face!