I was very disappointed at the unsporting behaviour of Jan .

She has been in the bottom end of the voting since it started and is not a good mover.
She deserved to go and she should be delighted that she got so far in the competition.

Excellent post She did seem dillusional about her own ability

I missed her on (or off, depending on what happened!) ITT tonight, could anyone fill me in?

Hopefully some kind person will also post it on YouTube.

The info you require is on the ITT thread

I am so confused

You get from the judges that people need to let themselves go, get into the dance, take it seriously, and then told when they are voted off not to take it personally. Yes some people can deal with that double standard. I hold my hand up that I couldn't and I would bet that a lot of people couldn't. Therefore I can understand Jan, she has devoted a lot to the show and although was not the best dancer, seemed the most committed in terms of time practiced.

Therefore before people condemn and slate take a walk in Jan's and the celebs shows methophorically speaking and think how you would feel in that case and then lamp Craig R.H. who could not give the woman time to get over it all.

You know, I didn't see this story in any reputable newspaper.

I think that says it all, really.

The Sun. The Mirror, the Star ... all the same. 'Dodgy journalism' at its best!

Some reporter probably heard about a slight 'altercation' (if it was even that), took 'selected' bits out of the report, exaggerated it and then sent it in. Then, lo and behold, we practically have WWIII breaking out behind the scenes of SCD between Craig and Jan/Jan's hubby (I'm just surprised we didn't get reports of bloody noses, black eyes etc etc etc).

I have no doubt that there is an element of truth behind it - but it's how it's undoubtedly been blown out of all proportion by these rags (and of course the BBC probably won't object as it brings the show into the news yet again - regardless of where the stories are printed!).

I wonder what they'll find to exaggerate next ...???

Craig did mention it himself on TV on Sunday so it wasn't just the tabloid press making up stories out of nothing. However, I'm sure that both sides saw it differently and maybe Craig felt it was more aggressive behaviour that it actually was.

Jan seemed to openly admit last night that her husband did swear and go wild - just not a physical attack.

She said he removed Craig from her personal space - which I presume means push him away. Still I suppose if Craig couldn't see that he wasn't wanted although it isn't so good that her children had to witness their parents getting so upset and angry about losing!

sorry to edit your post, but TBH all you needed to say was what I kept.....

Not at all obvious - the judges should give points that reflect performance compared with the other contestants for that week, not compared with previous weeks.

NW

So what would be the criteria for judging the first contestant then?

The problem after Saturday's performance was caused by the fact that Craig attempted to commit one of the worst sins in "inter-personal relationships."
"Criticise in public, apologise in private."
He should have had more sense..
No forget that last bit, that's asking too much, all four of 'em are letting "success go to their heads."

Craig has nothing to apologise for though does he - I think he just wanted to commiserate anyway and say well done. I'm sure it is normal to say goodbye to the person who has just been voted off. I read somewhere that Brendan said everyone, including judges, often gets together for a drink after the show.I don't know why Craig is getting the blame anyway. I assume the points are allocated more in comparison to the others not on the previous performance.
It is a pity she ended up with the same as Matt as maybe it would have changed the outcome - only the producers know that. She was near the bottom of the public vote on a couple of occasions so it was only a matter of time.
However, although understandable, I don't feel her reaction was so nice to her fellow competitors as it was more or less saying that one or two of them had less right to stay than she did. I suppose she just got caught up in the emotion on Saturday evening.

As a judge it's his job to criticise in public. As a human being he tried to comfort Jan privately afterwards, as he saw that she had taken it particularly badly. Sadly, Jan and her family were unable to respond in a professional, adult manner.

Both Jan and her husband have come across as being very immature and have embarrassed themselves in being unable to take the result with grace and decency.

Even if Jan had improved on Saturday, her days on the show were numbered anyway. She had been amongst the bottom two couples for two weeks running and deservedly so. She had a good few weeks, but had taken her ability as far as it could go and it was time to leave.

Yes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

You've obviously not been in a situation of such a charged emotional state following any competition as seriously taken as this. Anyone can have "20/20 hindsight."

If he'd had some common sense, he'd have said nothing.

He lately gives a very good impression on this show of one who'd "rather be somewhere else."

I don't speak as someone with 20/20 hindsight. A celeb leaves the show every week - some of them 'undeservedly' so as they've danced generally well and are simply not popular enough. I'm sure all of them have been disappointed to leave, whether as a result of their poor dancing or lack of popularity. I simply compare Jan's behaviour with that of all the others and think she comes across very badly.
Last edited by The Swampster : 07-11-2006 at 13:11

It's a fact that somebody has to leave each week - this week, it was Jan's turn to go.

I've seen celebrity contestants who have danced both better and poorer than Jan but still react with more grace and dignity than her. I think she has a delusional sense of her abilities.

I like him, but I wouldn't say sensitivity was his strong point.

It it strange that someone who spends her career poking fun at others is so sensitive herself.

You're right, but then Ronnie Ancona is very sensitive and unsure of herself, apparently. (She admits it.)

Comedians are usually the most sensitive aren't they? Using comedy as a defense mechanism? Anywho...thought her behaviour was quite bad. She should have been a good sport about it...it's not like the judges have anything personally against her, they just didn't like her dancing. Truth be told, it was baaaad. I thought Colin last year was the epitome of good sportsmanship. Didn't fight, didn't talk back, happy for Darren, no sour grapes there. I was fuming when Len made that airy fairy comment about Colin but it didn't seem to bother him. Jan take note!

Colin didn't have to make any comments - Erin was making enough of her own!

Suit yourself, so you're right and I'm wrong eh?

Not quite, I'm talking about Craig's behaviour, after the event. I'm neither excusing nor commenting on Jan's.


Geddit?