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Why people vote for Ray
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Bracie.x
10-11-2006
because he has personality!! Eaton Road also have bags of personality. Leona has a brilliant voice but you never get to see much personality (IMO) personality plays an important part in this!! If this was a competition on the radio the results would be totally different.
beanbean
10-11-2006
i would say robert, nikitta and eaton road have the "nicest" personality they all seem lovely!
but then thats just the impresssion i get from watching the x tra factor shows which could be edited any way they want them to
bendymixer
10-11-2006
I think all the contestants seem ok but agree Leona seems detatched when singing personality wise. I know ray so biased but he is a lovely kid and I wish him well
floraandfauna
10-11-2006
Would you like to join us here bracie we are growing in numbers

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=474219
deevineone
10-11-2006
Leona would be fine at Stars in their Eyes, because then she could act out her sick Christina/Mooriah/Whitney fantasy to its fullest. On the XF, she is a non-entity unless she warbles and dribbles like said artists.
Katie841
10-11-2006
I think Ray comes across as a nice lad and that's why he's getting the votes each week. I don't think he's got the best (or worst) voice in the competition, but he's got plenty of confidence and personality to make up for it. Good luck to him, I say.
floraandfauna
10-11-2006
Originally Posted by Katie841:
“I think Ray comes across as a nice lad and that's why he's getting the votes each week. I don't think he's got the best (or worst) voice in the competition, but he's got plenty of confidence and personality to make up for it. Good luck to him, I say. ”

You too Katie

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=474219
Katie841
10-11-2006
Originally Posted by floraandfauna:
“You too Katie

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=474219”

Thanks!
magicmover
11-11-2006
I have nothing against Ray but think the competition is not right for him. People get hypnotised by that teddy boy smile and his huge personality. I would like to see him in the music industry as a swing artist but not claimed a the X FACTOR winner.

I could imagine his Christmas number one, some old Xmas carol brought back with Ray's jazzy charm.
floraandfauna
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by magicmover:
“I have nothing against Ray but think the competition is not right for him. People get hypnotised by that teddy boy smile and his huge personality. I would like to see him in the music industry as a swing artist but not claimed a the X FACTOR winner.

I could imagine his Christmas number one, some old Xmas carol brought back with Ray's jazzy charm. ”

Do we want another rocker though or another Mariah

Will any of them sell enough singles/albums? We've seen it all before

Ray's different and so are Eton Road
magicmover
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by floraandfauna:
“Do we want another rocker though or another Mariah

Will any of them sell enough singles/albums? We've seen it all before

Ray's different and so are Eton Road ”

I have postive thoughts on Eton Road but cannot see much on Ray.

I thought he was ok until I noticed that Simon is giving him the swing version of songs all the time. He said he's up for anything so I blamed Simon for that.

What Louis said last Saturday I think too and that it's the X FACTOR and I don't think that jazz/swing is right on a show type like that. Once or twice yes but not every week!

As for Ben he has a rough voice and cannot help it, he would have to sing something up tempo and rocky.
floraandfauna
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by magicmover:
“I have postive thoughts on Eton Road but cannot see much on Ray.

I thought he was ok until I noticed that Simon is giving him the swing version of songs all the time. He said he's up for anything so I blamed Simon for that.

What Louis said last Saturday I think too and that it's the X FACTOR and I don't think that jazz/swing is right on a show type like that. Once or twice yes but not every week!

As for Ben he has a rough voice and cannot help it, he would have to sing something up tempo and rocky.”

That's true he can't but he does make everything into rock, like SOS, he did the shouty rock thing, not everyone wants to hear that every week either
yakutz
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by floraandfauna:
“That's true he can't but he does make everything into rock, like SOS, he did the shouty rock thing, not everyone wants to hear that every week either ”

Thats true - but some people do, (me included) and i presume that some people want to hear Ray as well - although i can't for the life of me see why

Also, about Ray's personality - i don't really think he has that great a personality - he comes across arrogant and cocky to me, and even if he had a great personality, i don't think it matters - for me its about how they sing - hence why this is a talent competition.
*Scooby*
11-11-2006
Well I had a dream about Ray last night I do hope I'm not getting converted into a fan

Reality Sucks
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by yakutz:
“Thats true - but some people do, (me included) and i presume that some people want to hear Ray as well - although i can't for the life of me see why

Also, about Ray's personality - i don't really think he has that great a personality - he comes across arrogant and cocky to me, and even if he had a great personality, i don't think it matters - for me its about how they sing - hence why this is a talent competition.”


Why is it that anyone who shows any sign of confidence or personality gets labelled as cocky or arrogant? It was the same with Ashley - I just don't get it. I've not seen Ray being arrogant in any way. He always seems to be grateful to be there and is having the time of his life. I admit he's not the best, but I hope he manages to get work on the strength of his X Factor appearance.
magicmover
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by floraandfauna:
“That's true he can't but he does make everything into rock, like SOS, he did the shouty rock thing, not everyone wants to hear that every week either ”

Yep ok Ray and Ben maybe doing what they do best but I still think Rock for the X Factor is better suited than Ray's jazz and swing.

Ray maybe safe tonight again because it's Love Song night and he's used to something slow and classy.
sHaK
11-11-2006
Arggggh he's singing Crazy Little Thing Called Love and I can already picture this little oik grinning like a cheshire cat and clicking his fingers whilst singing this one.
taurus girl
11-11-2006
cannot bear him hope he is in bottom 2 tonight that will take the cocky smug look of his face
teresagreen
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by sHaK:
“Arggggh he's singing Crazy Little Thing Called Love and I can already picture this little oik grinning like a cheshire cat and clicking his fingers whilst singing this one.”

Nice one. Totally agree
Mr Blonde
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by Bracie.x:
“because he has personality!! Eaton Road also have bags of personality. Leona has a brilliant voice but you never get to see much personality (IMO) personality plays an important part in this!! If this was a competition on the radio the results would be totally different.”

The X Factor is a singing contest not a personality contest...thats Big Brother...if you judge him by his vocal ability and charisma then its a wonder why he isnt already out...
teresagreen
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by floraandfauna:
“Would you like to join us here bracie we are growing in numbers

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=474219”

Nope. No chance
floraandfauna
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by teresagreen:
“Nope. No chance ”

Where did you pop up from

Wasn't asking you, no point you're tone deaf
Blue Aardvark
11-11-2006
Ray's a decent actor and always manages to out perform his adequate singing voice. He's good at playing his part. A lot of people today probably enjoy the swing songs for their genuine novelty value, but aren't familiar enough with the genre to recognise how mediocre Ray is compared to a guy like Frank Sinatra. Those who like swing aren't going to buy a whole album of dodgy covers when they already own the real thing, so there's really no niche market for Ray to conquer short of him becoming the real deal, which is not going to happen. Those who are hearing this style of music either for the first time or for once in a blue moon might be curious enough to download the odd single off the back of his TV appearance should he ever release one, but I doubt any of the handful of albums he might sell from the bargain bucket at Asda will ever really get listened to. All the other X-factor singers are performing musical styles which still have vibrant modern production houses and even some of their poorer output still shifts a lot of units, so their's a chance some of the weaker contestants could get a lucky break and buy some time to build a career. Ray would always be wrestling with the shadow of the great recordings of fifty years ago so if he sticks to the same schtick he's doing he'll sink without a trace. Then again, he probably wants an acting gig.
Last edited by Blue Aardvark : 11-11-2006 at 20:26
Fish Go Deep
11-11-2006
the reason they vote for Ray is because the batteries in their hearing aids are dead

Ray does not deserve to be on the same stage as Leona
floraandfauna
11-11-2006
Originally Posted by MILF Hunter:
“the reason they vote for Ray is because the batteries in their hearing aids are dead

Ray does not deserve to be on the same stage as Leona ”

Oh I don't know about that she'd make a good backing singer for him
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