|
||||||||
Robbie Williams album struggling. |
![]() |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#1 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 30,110
|
Robbie Williams album struggling.
After his first single "rudebox" was savaged by the press, the album has started slowly, and continues to slide down the charts. Only three weeks after release, he has fallen to 9th in the charts, and sales of "Rudebox" are 60% lower than those of "Intensive Care" released the same week last year to sales of 374,000 compared to "Rudebox" which sold 148,000.
Should Robbie give it up? Or does he just need to get back to doing what he's good at, perhaps with Guy Chambers back on board? |
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#2 |
|
Banned User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,953
|
He should just go back to what he's good at, his first few albums were fantastic and it's all gone downhill since. I don't blame the split with Guy Chambers, i blame the huge record deal, kind of takes away a mans motivation!
|
|
|
|
|
|
#3 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 521
|
Let me say first of all I'm not especially in favour of or against Robbie. However, I've seen him live (free ticket) and had to admire his showmanship and sheer enjoyment of his job, and he has released some memorable material - especially impressive considering most peoples' prognosis after he 'left' Take That. I think fair play to the bloke. Inevitably the zeitgeist passes an artist, I guess that's kind of happening with RW now - but and I expect 148,000 albums sold in today's market is pretty good business. And from what I do know of his music, he is reasonably adventurous in his releases.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#4 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 661
|
To be fair, Robbie and EMI should have expected lower sales since he has moved in a different direction musically. The album is doing ok and will definitely go Platinum. Can't see Robbie making another album with this sort of music though.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#5 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Doncaster
Posts: 968
|
im not really a robbie fan but i like love light
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 15,748
|
Love Light is the only song by Robbie that I have liked.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#7 |
|
Banned User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 863
|
I love Robbie Williams, but I don't love this album at all. Lovelight is brilliant but the rest of it really isn't very good at all. I don't think he should give up, though. I really hope he doesn't, but I hope he changes his style again as I really don't like all that rap style stuff at all.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 30,110
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovedanny
im not really a robbie fan but i like love light
|
|
|
|
|
|
#9 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 748
|
Firstly, the album has performed well considering the mixed reviews. It's a change of direction from his previous albums and clearly needs time for people to get used to it.
I feel that promotion for the album is another factor and there has been less than usual - this is primarily due to the fact that Rob is still on tour. He has just played 5 dates in South America and is due to play 7 sell-out dates in Australia. The album has gone double platinum in Europe and he is the best selling artist this year. He is breaking new ground in South America and last month won Best International Artist at the MTV Latin America Music Awards. I for one would be devastated if he chose to give up now and so I think would EMI - he's doing very well if you consider his latest triumphs. Last edited by Jan001 : 13-11-2006 at 15:21. |
|
|
|
|
|
#10 |
|
Banned User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,953
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by WatfordKev
Let me say first of all I'm not especially in favour of or against Robbie. However, I've seen him live (free ticket) and had to admire his showmanship and sheer enjoyment of his job, and he has released some memorable material - especially impressive considering most peoples' prognosis after he 'left' Take That. I think fair play to the bloke. Inevitably the zeitgeist passes an artist, I guess that's kind of happening with RW now - but and I expect 148,000 albums sold in today's market is pretty good business. And from what I do know of his music, he is reasonably adventurous in his releases.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,226
|
He's the fastest selling platinum artist this year. Yeah, he's REALLY struggling.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#12 |
|
Banned User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,953
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosis
He's the fastest selling platinum artist this year. Yeah, he's REALLY struggling.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#13 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hull
Posts: 3,331
|
I think the album will continue to do OK-if not selling in the same quantities as previous efforts. The album itself is a grower-better than many reviews have suggested.
|
|
|
|
|
#14 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,226
|
Positive. I checked the site of the IFPI, which says:
November 8, 2006 This month sees Robbie Williams' Rudebox become the fastest selling Platinum Europe album so far this year. Can't see that it would be lying. |
|
|
|
|
|
#15 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,157
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosis
Positive. I checked the site of the IFPI, which says:
November 8, 2006 This month sees Robbie Williams' Rudebox become the fastest selling Platinum Europe album so far this year. Can't see that it would be lying. |
|
|
|
|
|
#16 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,694
|
I couldn't give a flying **** what it is selling. It doesn't make it a bad album because of what it sells. Lots of my favourite albums have sold sod all but they are still brilliant. I personally love the album. I will admit i was waning with him with his recent albums as it was becoming a bit too repetitive and i'm glad he's taken a chance with this album. I'm sure once the xmas sales have passed that the album will have sold a healthy amount here and wordlwide. Long may his experimentation continue i say.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#17 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,114
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Drums
Think the clue "Europe" is a give away, it gives no indication at all of the UK market.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#18 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Road To Nowhere
Posts: 1,445
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychosis
He's the fastest selling platinum artist this year. Yeah, he's REALLY struggling.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#19 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Road To Nowhere
Posts: 1,445
|
I just can't see the album picking up any new fans. Lots of artists' sales increase as more singles are released (Killers, Keane, etc) so the album becomes a very high seller over a long period of time.
The Robbie album has peaked already with his loyal fanbase buying the album and everybody else not really caring. |
|
|
|
|
|
#20 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 17,226
|
I never said he was the fastest selling album in the UK
Please, people, stop trying to use figures to refute the point I never made. The title was Robbie Williams album struggling. I simply pointed out that it's not. One market is not struggling. And by the way, he may have fell SEVEN places but there were six or seven new entries above him, so that's hardly cut and dry. |
|
|
|
|
|
#21 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,137
|
Not surprising really, his latest one is rubbish compared to his other ones.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#22 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Manchester
Posts: 362
|
I'm a fan of Williams and I think its understandable that Rudebox did worse than Intensive Care - its a change of direction, Intensive Care came after his biggest period without an album of new material and there was virtually no promotion. Considering that, he's not done too badly.
However, he should be doing better considering the size of his deal. For EMI to really get their money's worth he would need to break America and he's said a number of times that he just can't be arsed to do that. How many albums does he have left on his current deal? It wouldn't surprise me to see the next one veering off even more musically - and either being hugely succesfull or doing quite poorly. I don't think you can deny that EMI paid over the odds for him though and that's coming from quite a big Robbie Williams fan. |
|
|
|
|
|
#23 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lost
Posts: 43,383
|
Personally I think he should be respected to trying new things, but of course the danger of doing that is you are going to make the odd mistake.
Of course he could be like the gran's favourite Westlife who release the same song over and over again. Well it sounds like they do anyway. You can tell those guys are only in it to pay their mortgages, anyone with any real interest in music would have left that group long ago. |
|
|
|
|
|
#24 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,157
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamBobGeldof
Does it matter how he does in the UK? As long as the album is selling well overall it's a success. Fastest selling platinum album in Europe this year is a major achievement. Good on him.
You can't just twist the argument because you don't like the facts. |
|
|
|
|
|
#25 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 150
|
Can you really rely on the Charts as an indicator of how well an Album is doing considering that most people now buy their albums from CDwow & play.com. As far as I know these sales are not included in the chart calculation . Nowadays an album or single stays at the top of the charts for a very short period - changing every 5 minutes as far as I can see.
I think after playing to nearly 3 million people this year Robbie Williams has given very good value to EMI & I am sure they have very little to complain about . |
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:57.



