Jeez, I wasn't being mean at all. I was saying why do we have to be mean about other contestants to defend Emma?

Sheesh! I personally think it's very rude to tell someone to leave a thread. I don't mind Emma at all, by the way. But I do think the Claire bashing is just as bad as the Emma bashing and it doesn't solve anything.


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Emma was lucky to have survived against Peter. If she'd left tonight, I wouldn't have shed a tear almost purely because of the overmaking she's enjoyed throughout the series from the judges. Bruno's 9 was out of order and she paid for that by being in the bottom 2

Well I disgree about them being worse. Tbh both couples were a little average tonight. It was only with the judges vote that Emma and Darren were higher

I think it was the right result re Peter leaving with regards dancing ability but part of me did want Emma to go. I just don't feel she's committed as much to the programme as Peter. I find him and Erin more entertaining. So it was quite exciting having Emma in the bottom two.

I do like Darren and as a person I like Emma but as a couple I just can't warm to them I'm afraid.

How very dare you. This isb a forum for people to post opinions. Many opinions differ. I happen to think Emma does come across as smug as well as deeply bland. The Spice girls have nothing to do with this comp. Grow up.

The comments about overmarking just suggest some people are mathematically challenged . Bruno's 9 made no difference to the outcome. Peter had to beat four other people in the public poll to put Emma in danger. The decisive factor was the judges dumping Mark in the bottom two and saying nice things about Peter which meant the save anyone at the bottom however bad vote jumped into action behind Mark and finally, belatedly, deserted Peter. The judges finally found a way to get them to waste their votes and not kick out another good dancer by saving the worst dancer. Bruno just got too worried by the threat that the childish anti-judge vote would put one of the top dancers in danger.

The only significant overmarking was Matt who still looks like a robot - now with an added smiley expression - whilst his partner puts in the moves around him. Thats almost certainly because they don't want a walkover for Mark and because as Mark started at a high level he has no story to win with. They probably like the idea of Matt with a dark horse story. Otherwise the marking is spot on - Mark is stalling and his marks accurately reflect that he isn't improving. The most exciting dancer - when she is on - remains Louisa and her marks reflect that in her good weeks. Emma predictably had a weaker week when she was tied up doing other things - she needs to put the work in and hope she can stay in teh first two and get to the final inspite of the voters who back the poorest dancers and the desperate housewife vote that will flood in for Mark and Matt or the older women. The competitive final is going to be between three of Emma, Louisa, Mark and Matt. The problem is if they can get there and if they can get there without Mark being the obvious winner or Matt becoming an incredible one.

Say if Bruno had marked Emma 7, in line with the other judges, she would have finished 5th representing 3 points,
<instead of 5pts> and with the combined public votes she would have ended up in bottom place with less points than Peter.

Surely Brunos 9 made a huge difference?

I love these superior posters who accuse the rest of us of being "mathematically challenged".
Last year I was accused of being "stupid" in this forum by someone similar.

They seem to think that only *their* views matter and are informed, and we're all talking total poppycock! Puh! :yawn:

For your information, the *experts* on digi said that it was a great dance:

Camilla: "He has a great top line", and nothing but praise from Philip:"He's leading very well".

It was the best dance this week and was marked first by the Judges, so what's wrong with that?

I agree, she's annoying. There's a lot she can learn from Clare, Peter or Mark, who never complain and just get on and work hard.

After listening to the red button commentary for a few weeks I realise that they very very rarely criticise any couple. They didn't even say anything negative about Peter's samba last week. I'm disappointed with the red button commentary as I was hoping they could be more like the gymnastic commentary, who would acutely point out the good and the bad of each rountine. But if it's just all praises and no criticism, then I don't see the point of having them, they are supposed to inform the audience with their professional knowledge.

what did the red button say about Mark and Karen, plz?

How bizarre! I dunno what you were listening to, but Anton clearly laughed at Peter's Samba, and Philip said that Erin climbing the stairs and clapping while Peter just walked about mid-dance "would be thought of as timewasting by the Judges".

They almost comment on every single step, and talk about the technicalities, it's very informative. Whilst the likes of Nicole Cutler was complimentary about every celeb in a kind way, Philip is always there to notice any failings and point them out - politely.

Also last week Anton criticised Mark's stiff, wooden upper body in the hold of his AS, whilst Arlene gave him a 9, so I'd say the digi commentary is very worthwhile, provided ofcourse you actually listen.

From memory, they reflected my views that it was alot better than the Judges thought!

Camilla liked his lines very much, when he held a position, she thought it was "beautiful" and Philip said his timing was excellent throughout. I was quite surprised the Judges slated it completely. Okay his hips weren't as fluid as Colin's last year, but I felt there was alot more choreo in this dance. Erin's Latin routines tend to be very simple affairs.

Ah, danke!

You're welcome! Luckily it's available on Freeview, cos that's all I've got!

I also feel that the judges aren't doing Emma ANY favours by being sooo over the top about her. So much so she is beginning to believe in her own "ability" and making some stupid comments (ie the judges can see we put our all into it). I know I am going to get a bashing from the Emma-ites for saying this, but she DID deserve her comments from the judges (and I exclude Brunos comment) alas had that performance and those comments been turned in by, say, Matt and Lilia or Carol and Matt the scores wouldn't have even been as high as a seven!!!!!

I was hoping she would go. There's something about her that makes me want to throw something at the TV she is so irritating.

Hear Hear

She is not my favourite, but it would have been just wrong, if she had gone last night, when she is a better dancer than most of the others.

I think Bruno's 9 was pretty much responsible for Emma being in the bottom two, a completely ridiculous overmark. However, she's not my favourite, but it would have been a shame to loose her (or Mark) on one sub standard dance, as happened to Ray, after she's been pretty consistant thoughout (as Mark has). Peter, although a lovely bloke, was clearly below the standard set by the others, and has been in previous weeks, it really was time for him to go.

We've already lost two potential finalists after one average dance, I'd have hated to loose another last night (either Mark or Emma) because of one performance. They both do need to hit the heights again next week though.

Totally agree A Krycek, good post!

If Emma wants to blow their socks off she will have to put the hours into the practice room.

I don't know how many people watch ITT in comparison to SCD but she has been saying she only had 12 hours of practice time now I know she's busy with the single but others will see it as she can't be bothered.

I'd love to know the overall viewers voting figures that sort of info would have me rubbing my hands together in glee!

Ditto. It's a conversation forum. I am not going to trawl through your previous posts to find out 'who you are'. I asked the question. You replied explaining your voting eloquently apart from the last sentence.

Don't take it so personally!

Agree with you completely, Emma is a good dancer, just not as good as her hype and in that sense it would have been a shame, on a personality level though, I wouldn't have missed either her or the persistant fawning over her I don't actually think Mark deserved the panning he got though, although it was lacking in true raunch.
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It so did, it proves that the public at home are tiring of it. And your first point about maths makes no logical sense either.