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Old 20-11-2006, 16:19
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Here are the scores since the beginning of the contest showing that Emma has the best overall score to date.

............................................................................Total
Emma and Darren….30…36…34…30…33…33……...196
Mark and Karen……..27…33…36…35…32…27……...190
Louisa and Vince……35…32…29…26…36…28……...186

Matt and Lillia…..……37…34…25…28…30…19….….173
Carol and Matt……...30…27…29…29…27…25……..167
Claire and Bren..……29…32…21…24…22…21……..149
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:21
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And that's the very reason why she's last in the public vote, simply because she doesn't deserve it.
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:21
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I thought Emma and Darren had 30 on Saturday, still makes them top but

edit oops sorry i see you started off with week 7
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:25
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The 9 she got on Saturday was ridiculous and obviously designed to keep her high enough up the board to keep her in. 7s across the board would have been fairer. I'm not saying she deserves to be out, I just don't think she's better than a number of the other contestants.
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:25
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Originally Posted by luckyforest
And that's the very reason why she's last in the public vote, simply because she doesn't deserve it.
Here, here.

In launching this thread you're absolutely beggin' for another Bunton Bashing if you ask me.
A deaf man with bad eyesight could see her scores so far have been all over the place and have had absolutely no relation to anything remotely connected to dancing ability (that 'Bruno-lingo' enough for ya :yawn: )
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:26
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hhhhhmm, best overall score doesn't necessarily correlate with best overall dancer though, does it? Especially not when you've got an over-excited Bruno handing out points like sweeties ...
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:31
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bruno's judging is downright corrupt. He is almost single-handedly responsible for turning the public against Zoe Ball last year with his overmarking. And I swear himself and Len must be getting SCD confused with DWTS where they hand out perfect 10 scores for every other dance
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Old 20-11-2006, 16:33
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Originally Posted by dancingbearbear
hhhhhmm, best overall score doesn't necessarily correlate with best overall dancer though, does it? Especially not when you've got an over-excited Bruno handing out points like sweeties ...
Completely agree!
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:08
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The three couples I wanna see go in the next three weeks are... Emma and Darren, Louisa and Vincent and Matt and Lilia.

I find myself disliking them - they may be good dancers but are lacking in something. For me Carol and Matt are the underdogs, Claire and Brendan are fun and Mark and Karen nail it every week and don't seem cocky about it like Emma and Louisa do. Matt just irratates me as he has no personlity whats so ever.

The scores are biased anyway. Arlene gives scores just for who turns her on the most. Whereas Craig lusts after Emma as does Bruno over Louisa
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:10
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Agree.

Emma is a very poor dancer. Her footwork is awful and she seems to expect to be kept in because she was a spice girl.

She knows how to smile and pose for the camera but the dancing is the worst of the lot who are left in.

perhaps now she will work a bit harder. I expect the judges, Len and Bruno in particular, will try to put her at the top again to keep her safe as that appears to be what the BBC want. Hope the public vote goes the right way though.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:12
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Originally Posted by Jackster31
Here, here.

In launching this thread you're absolutely beggin' for another Bunton Bashing if you ask me.
A deaf man with bad eyesight could see her scores so far have been all over the place and have had absolutely no relation to anything remotely connected to dancing ability (that 'Bruno-lingo' enough for ya :yawn: )
I don't really mind Jackster...I am not an Emma fan. It is interesting however to see the total scores awarded for each of the dancers and to see who is improving etc.

I rather think that Mark and Karen were underscored on Sat. and overall he is much better and more consistent than the others. Louisa has had ONE good dance but very overrated scores every week, so I fail to see her attraction. Emma's moves are always better than Louisa's.

Matt (recently) has been the improver but Carol has steadily been improving her moves every week since the start. The judges over award good scores if you improve and are not themselves consistent. On balance, the best overall dancer left in the competition is Mark.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:15
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Originally Posted by yohinnchild

Whereas Craig lusts after Emma as does Bruno over Louisa



Erm they're both gay
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:17
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Love Mark and Karen, but don't think they were undermarked last week. Also, don't think Matt and Carol have been overmarked with their improvement. Dances where they've received good marks have been good dances and deserving of their scores. She might not have sold her Cha Cha, but believe me, there was enough technical stuff in there to completely deserve that 30 and those comments.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:18
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I don't think Emma is a 'poor dancer' at all.

She's certainly not the best we've ever seen, but she is at least on a par with any of the remaining contestants.

I wouldn't consider Louisa to be any better. Most of them have had a combination of good/not so good performances.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:24
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do you know what I am very upset, I always thought this forum was a nice and friendly one, but all over the weekend all I have seen is a bunch of comments panning Emma for no reason.

I'll tell you something, it's not her fault the judges mark her highly, she is a great dancer, not brilliant, but she isn't as bad as you bitchy and unecessary comments state. She still deserves to be in the competition as she is the most consistent competitor overall as the statistics state.

So if you've finished, positive comments only please, winter is depressing enough!!!
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:30
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I think you need to look up the word forum.
It isn't a place for positive comments only
Emma has the potential to be fantastic but she didn't practise enough last week and it showed up big time.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:31
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Originally Posted by cazzyd
do you know what I am very upset, I always thought this forum was a nice and friendly one, but all over the weekend all I have seen is a bunch of comments panning Emma for no reason.

I'll tell you something, it's not her fault the judges mark her highly, she is a great dancer, not brilliant, but she isn't as bad as you bitchy and unecessary comments state. She still deserves to be in the competition as she is the most consistent competitor overall as the statistics state.

So if you've finished, positive comments only please, winter is depressing enough!!!
I agree with this - but not with the comment that she is the most consistent - IMO that accolade goes to Mark - who has taken a lot of stick on other threads, including Emma's.

Strange how the anti Mark fans can dish it out - but can't take it
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:32
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Originally Posted by bb4pro
I think you need to look up the word forum.
It isn't a place for positive comments only
Emma has the potential to be fantastic but she didn't practise enough last week and it showed up big time.
yes I know what you are saying but there is no need to keep constantly slating her for no reason

and also the reason they didn't practice enough is because Emma was busy promoting a single for quite an important thing, er CHARITY
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:35
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Maybe she was ...but it was her choice to not train as much and it showed and she ended up in the bottom two because of it.
The others all have commitments too.
Carol did 3 massive CHARITY events last week but was she moaning and groaning about lack of training time?
All of the others have their own stuff to do but they actually commit themselves to their training.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:42
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Originally Posted by bb4pro
Maybe she was ...but it was her choice to not train as much and it showed and she ended up in the bottom two because of it.
The others all have commitments too.
Carol did 3 massive CHARITY events last week but was she moaning and groaning about lack of training time?
All of the others have their own stuff to do but they actually commit themselves to their training.

to be honest, i don't think commitment has anything to do with it, so she didn't train as much big deal, and yes Carole was moaning she didn't get the dance she really struggled, Emma and Darren's dance was equally as good if not better than Carole and Matthew, it so warranted the thirty and did not deserve to be in the bottom two.

I really can't slate anyone of the dancers because they are all equally as good, but out of all the couples the weakest four even did not include Emma and Darren, not even the judges scores showed that and on the whole (despite bruno's ridiculous nine) the scores were true to the dance.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:44
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Well you should be blaming the public then who were the ones who put her in the bottom two.
I never said Carole moaned about not getting the dance. I said she didn't moan about her lack of training time.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:46
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Originally Posted by podge1
I agree with this - but not with the comment that she is the most consistent - IMO that accolade goes to Mark - who has taken a lot of stick on other threads, including Emma's.

Strange how the anti Mark fans can dish it out - but can't take it

Actually I am pro Mark, I love him, but I just didn't like his dance on saturday!!!
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:46
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Originally Posted by cazzyd
, it so warranted the thirty

I really can't slate anyone of the dancers because they are all equally as good, but out of all the couples the weakest four even did not include Emma and Darren, not even the judges scores showed that and on the whole (despite bruno's ridiculous nine) the scores were true to the dance.
1. Questionable

2. The judges scores never reflect her true performance - and IMO opinion that was true on Saturday.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:49
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Originally Posted by cazzyd
Actually I am pro Mark, I love him, but I just didn't like his dance on saturday!!!
Even his most ardent fans agree that Saturday was his least convincing performance - but it certainly didn't deserve the ridiculously low mark Craig handed out.
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Old 20-11-2006, 17:49
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Originally Posted by cazzyd
to be honest, i don't think commitment has anything to do with it, so she didn't train as much big deal, and yes Carole was moaning she didn't get the dance she really struggled, Emma and Darren's dance was equally as good if not better than Carole and Matthew, it so warranted the thirty and did not deserve to be in the bottom two.

I really can't slate anyone of the dancers because they are all equally as good, but out of all the couples the weakest four even did not include Emma and Darren, not even the judges scores showed that and on the whole (despite bruno's ridiculous nine) the scores were true to the dance.
But that's a contradiction in itself really because if Bruno hadn't given Emma 'that ridiculous nine' and had kept inline with the other judges then Emma would have been bottom 3.
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