Come on Emma!! Here's hoping for a great performance. Please stay in!! My tickets arrived for next week and i'd be so gutted if I didn't get to see her!

But you're not known as "Baby" are you?

In the music industry it's all about teens and twenties with "girl singers "and there's another one along every minute.
A thirty year old with a thick waist and a limited range isn't going to make much progress in a career now, are they?

Hate to say it but people like Robbie Williams were around and they're still surviving so why can't she? I could name quite a few older singers that have survived the pop industry changin, Geogre Michael for example.
Although I do agree with the age thing I was trying to make a point about you don't have to be young to sell records

How do you know I'm not called "Baby"?

However, I agree that the singles charts are mostly dominated by youngsters but most money in the music business is made from albums, DVDs, concerts, etc. Age is not a barrier there and compared to many raking in huge sales Emma is still a baby.

She's an OK dancer - but nowhere near as good as her marks would have you believe.

She has potential but needs to get in the rehearsal room and work on technique (not on smiling nicely at the judges).

She's being paid at least £25000 for 3 month's part time work (don't know about anyone else - but that's a YEAR'S full time work for me....) so GET YOUR FINGER OUT AND GET WORKING EMMA! All of the other's aren't exactly sitting on their backsides all week and still manage to put in more hours than she does.

Erm lack of talent maybe

I don't have any faves at present and I generally vote for what has really moved me. Emma hasn't and the reason why I think is that once she appeared in the bottom 2 she is now desperately trying to cling on with extra lessons. Where was the commitment before? I know we have had charity stuff, but quieter weeks for her should have meant more rehersal time, and she hasn't attempted that.

She looks like the olympic women snowboarder who showboated near the end fell over and only got silver. If she comes back from this setback and lasts for more than 1 more week I may feel tempted i.e triumph over adversity, but she has to prove a lot not just to me but to Darren who i feel she has let down shamefully.

There really is no need for that. You may not like her and you may dislike her dancing but I do think that is a bit uncalled for. She earned lots of money in the Spice Girls and whatever she does now, she does because she wants to. Her last album did quite well, with 4 top 20 hits and even the cover of Downtown ,which as a fan of hers i'm not keen on, is no2 so far on sales this week which is the highest placement for the official CIN single for years. She's not the greatest singer in the world but for a pop perfomer she's not bad in the grand scheme of things compared to performers like Rachel Stevens etc.

I appreciate your opinion but it is really easy to start getting personal about all celebrities.

I wish Emma all the luck in the world, hope she puts in a blinding performance this week and proves her dance critics wrong. I don't think the greatest dance in the world would sway the opinions those who feel it necessary to post purile comments about her , but hey- i doubt she loses any sleep over them!

Go Emma and sexy Darren!!!!! I really want them to win!!!! Their samba was super!!!! Keep up the good work.

I'm sorry but there's one thing that you can do on a message board is get "personal" about a person in the public eye if you want to, if it is your opinion.
My comments were in no way abusive, so I can't see a problem and the moderators won't see one either.

It also isn't for anyone on here to tell me or you, that you shouldn't.
If I were getting "personal" about you, that would be an entirely different matter.
I'm amazed at how many people on this board fail to see this.
Some seem to think it's some sort of "fan club."

Well if no one calls you "Baby" I will if that's what you want. Anything to please a lady.

By the way, try "Googling" "Emma Bunton Concert tickets."


The only thing that comes up is a "free" concert, in 2004 &5 where she was just one of many on the bill. So hardly in demand is she?
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For a start she hasn't released anything for a couple of years so that probably explains the lack of touring.


I completely apologise I as you can see I am new to the board and don't understand how it works. Everyone has their right to an opinion and I respect that. I'd prefer to to just talk about the dances and their personalties re Strictly and if I just want to read people criticising celebrities I go on one of the celeb gossip threads who do it much better.
As I said each to their own though.

I, personally would LOVE to see Emma reach the final, I think her and her partner Darren have done consistently good routines. The performance level is always really high and the choreography is superb!

I have no idea what she has done to come up with as much criticism as she has faced from here on the people. I know murderers who've had more support! All I can think is poor her if she reads this, she deserves some support so I'm behind her and Darren!

Amy I agree with what you have just said. Almost all the criticism on this forum has been towards Emma, I think during SCD she has had one bad week which was last week and to be honest it wasnt that bad and certainly didnt deserve to be in the bottom 2, but instantly thats another chance to have a go at her. I would personally love her and Matt Dawson to be in the final because I think they are both Fantastic and working hard and I am sure that Emma has put in a lot more training time this week so give her a break. Emma and Darren have my support

The only trend in music is that people don't last long - as shown by the long list of female singers who have one good album and no more . Emma has far more endurance than most.

The found out argument makes no sense. They are all found out for something. Louisa has poor weeks and really good weeks. Claire according to Len is pulled around by Brendan, 4 judges tell us that nearly all of Carol's detail is wrong in some dances and she is still fighting the smiley smiley fake Carol impression with limited success. Mark is OK when he connects with a dance but not when he doesn't and he is stalling. Matt is technically better but he is essentially still as robotic as a synchronised swimmer and he is carried by his partner too. Emma's feet may make mistakes but she compensates for it by getting more right than most elsewhere.

The sympathy vote argument also fails the logic test - she obviously didn't have one or she wouldn't have ended in teh bottom two after dancing better than at least 3 people. Lots of people obviously didn't vote for Peter either. The sympathy vote in this SCD exists but it follows whoever is criticised by the judges unless they are female and usually in favour with the judges. This week the dullards who vote anti-judge seem to have joined in the pro-Mark vote and forgotten Peter.

Apart from a few OAPs with aching joints I don't see anyone voting for the most arthritic contrestant - by that logic we would see legless people in the final and I don't think even the SCD voters would do anything that silly.

The mindless vote may swing behind someone who is a sportsman or it may just look for another hunky male but thats not a new problem. Much of Peter's vote was anti-judge so it may help someone like Carol or Matt if he reverts to form - Brendan seems not to attract it reliably for some strange reason. Unless the judges correct Matts marks or Mark breaks a leg or the desperate housewife vote collapses , Emma is essentially competing with Louisa, Carol and Claire for the last place in the last 3.

The problem with opinions is that everyone has them but in reality some are based on decidedly dicey psychological and logical grounds. If someone produces a logical souffle chances are someone else will stick a finger in it and if its just a statement of opinion its not actually very interesting as you can find someone who believes anything.

Emma seems to attract bizarre arguments. She is trying to boost her career is one - they all are - is the obvious response. Another one is that the judges like her and want her to stay - what else would judges want if they thought she was one of the best two dancers there? The argument just reveals the psychology of the person making it.

My favourite though is the Emma can dance already because she danced with the Spice Girls argument. Apart from assuming ballroom is the same as Spice girls dancing this is a logical absurdity. The fact is that if you watch any Spice Girl (or S Club) concert, everyone in the audience from 5 to 50 can do the same moves almost exactly. By this logic we would have to exclude practically every sighted female in the country under a certain age. Thats before you exclude anyone who did dance at school ( most girls since the 1980s I should think) anyone who did any dance at drama school on their way to becoming an actress or any singer who ever danced. They would have no female celebs at all on SCD if they applied this illogic. At some point the logic behind the opinion is just so plain illogical that you have to dismiss the opinion too.

If life ended at 30 we would really be in trouble as people would be dying after working less than a decade and having to fit children in too. Tell Madonna that you are over the hill at 30. Emma is probably Ok. She sings sweetly enough with enough interpretation to go down with different age groups, the Spice fans who were not fickle and jumped for the next dad will age with her and the Spice girls will still be being played, like Abba ,to remind people of her when many of the come and go artistes have gone.

what do u mean she nearly went? was she in the bottom 2?

i would love to see her make a comeback, i think she will work really hard this week and shock everyone with an amazing dance, does anyone know what she is dancing. i hate the emma bashing its sooo unfair. there are other less technical celebs out there

Did you not see it?? Yes she was in the bottom 2

i didnt see it either. but did she deserve to be in the bottom 2?????

Yes

She turned in a woeful performance in the ChaCha - and was also overmarked by the judges (well one in particular).

Lack of preparation was very evident....

NO she absolutely did not deserve to be in the bottom 2 at all. she was overmarked by only 1 judge he should of giver her a 7 or 8 It was a good performance just deffo not her best lack of training.

so compared to marks dance how was it???

Compared to Marks's Rhumba on Saturday of Cha, Cha, Cha?

I don't see how it can be compared to the Rhumba but in Comparison to the Cha, Cha, Cha I much preferred Mark's there seemed a lot more movement!

Worse - she shimmied a lot, did a lot of posing and stroked herself a lot with Darren dancing around her.....

Think of a combination of Claire the week she did the Salsa and Georgina's Rumba and you get the idea.....

Mark at least danced.....