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Jan's got Phina sussed!
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pretty
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by Starlet:
“It's my opinion, not a definitive fact...I thought the way she was in that chest task with the boys was atrocious, but as the threads about it at the time indicated I was about the only person who was on Scott's side in it.

For me, threatening to beat up an OAP, regardless of how flippant the comment was meant to be and how much provocation there was is disgusting behaviour...as is biting and scratching someone for the sake of some cheese.

If those are the sort of things she does and says on camera for cheese and because someone annoys her I dread to think what she's like in private, she just comes across as aggressive, unpleasant and angry to me.”

According to her sister, the Phina in the jungle is thesame Phina out of the jungle!
♣ Moya
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by Hepzibah:
“Carol Thatcher is middle class - but still a damn sight "posher" than JL - and if Iremember correctly, she was rather popular......”

Carol Thatcher & Jenny Bond showed how older women should behave.
yellowlabbie
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by aliasjones:
“Carol Thatcher & Jenny Bond showed how older women should behave.”

They showed how all women should behave.
Hepzibah
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by aliasjones:
“Carol Thatcher & Jenny Bond showed how older women should behave.”

Oh, I LOVED Jennie Bond - she was so brave with those rats - I take my hat off to her, I'd never have managed it. Shame there isn't a Jennie type in camp now.
autumn
22-11-2006
Just because someone is aged does not mean that they automatically command respect. Respect is due when it is earned. Jan does not care about respecting anyone, as long as she gets what she desires. She is the ultimate Mistress of Manipulation.
LindyLupin
22-11-2006
Jan is her own worst enemy. She has the scary emotional paranoia, convinced everyone's conspiring against her, and goes on and on at them to provoke a reaction. Then she is satisfied she was right and can say told you so!!!
Hepzibah
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by LindyLupin:
“Jan is her own worst enemy. She has the scary emotional paranoia, convinced everyone's conspiring against her, and goes on and on at them to provoke a reaction. Then she is satisfied she was right and can say told you so!!!”

Spot on. And that ruins it for everyone, but most of all for herself. She really is her own worst enemy.
pretty
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I certainly agree that you should never talk to an OAP that way, I have always thought Phina was aggressive from the beginning, she really does not have a very Christian attitude.”

Since you keep harping on about her Christianity, can you tell us what you think is the right attitude for a Christian?

Phina is the only woman in there that gives Jan a lot of attention and it's clear to me that they'd made up their differences by their reaction towards each other when Ant and Dec went into camp to give the name of the celeb doing the BTT.
she-hulk
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by Hepzibah:
“Spot on. And that ruins it for everyone, but most of all for herself. She really is her own worst enemy.”

And now no male audience for her pathetic tears! Times are hard!!
autumn
22-11-2006
Get off the OAP thing! Pensioner is the last thing I think of when is see Jan (or Faith). It's just an excuse.
Dan Fortesque
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“They showed how all women should behave.”

Lol, I don't think people were meant to behave in the same cloned manner.
♣ Moya
22-11-2006
It was also interesting that we were shown footage of the men musing about Jan & not only about how she was getting on, but how you should handle her.
Very telling I thought.
Lola Barthes
22-11-2006
Jan has nobody sussed - least of all herself
gizmocrystal
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by autumn:
“Just because someone is aged does not mean that they automatically command respect. Respect is due when it is earned. Jan does not care about respecting anyone, as long as she gets what she desires. She is the ultimate Mistress of Manipulation.”

Absolutley....... People dont get perfect with age, if you were nasty when you were young,middle age, you are not going to turn into a saint just because you are older.

I think violence of any sort is bad to anyone of any age, but im sure phina wouldnt beat her up, she was just at her wits end.

I have said some nasty things in the heat of the moment and i wouldnt dream of hurting a fly........
yellowlabbie
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by pretty:
“Since you keep harping on about her Christianity, can you tell us what you think is the right attitude for a Christian?

Phina is the only woman in there that gives Jan a lot of attention and it's clear to me that they'd made up their differences by their reaction towards each other when Ant and Dec went into camp to give the name of the celeb doing the BTT.”

I wasn't aware that I was harping on about her Christianity but it is not very nice to threaten someone with violence, Christian or no Christian.
Dan Fortesque
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by mrkieron:
“I didn't get that I thought she was just saying that Phina was more in tune with people than she was”

I'm not a fan of Jan's but I thought that too, and she thought Phina would be more popular with the public.
Last edited by Sleepy Hollow : 22-11-2006 at 23:26
pretty
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by aliasjones:
“It was also interesting that we were shown footage of the men musing about Jan & not only about how she was getting on, but how you should handle her.
Very telling I thought.”

Indeed it was!
she-hulk
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I wasn't aware that I was harping on about her Christianity but it is not very nice to threaten someone with violence, Christian or no Christian.”

Heat of the moment methinks...... Could that be remotely possible?
Hepzibah
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by she-hulk:
“And now no male audience for her pathetic tears! Times are hard!!”

The sad thing is, that it's true as well as funny!!!
pretty
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I wasn't aware that I was harping on about her Christianity but it is not very nice to threaten someone with violence, Christian or no Christian.”

Well exactly!
yellowlabbie
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by she-hulk:
“Heat of the moment methinks...... Could that be remotely possible? ”

Maybe, but it still doesn't excuse it.
slappers r us
22-11-2006
I would rather have someone shouting at me than using emotional blackmail to get their own way

Jan passive agressive
Hepzibah
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe, but it still doesn't excuse it.”

I'm inclined to excuse Phina because Jan made her do it, lol
tomorrow
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by sixtieschick:
“if they were like jan .........YES.............age has nothing to do with it
she would have been a horror in her teens twenties thirties fourties fifties and now in her sixties
she is a vile woman...."you made me swear" ...the lady veneer slipped well and truly there didn't it”

So that justifies physical violence?

Not in my book it doesn't.

No matter how annoying a person is, why should some people want to resort to violence?

Says more about the people who condone it ....
Fayecorgasm
22-11-2006
Originally Posted by Hepzibah:
“I'm inclined to excuse Phina because Jan made her do it, lol ”

fucaccio now look what you made me do
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