LCD TV Mania - I've seen the light

jturner1953 · 23-11-2006, 08:54

I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years.

I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one.

Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy

than a conventional CRT of equivalent size.

So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening

.

I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria.

That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest

Enjoy YOUR day

J

tomorrow · 23-11-2006, 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jturner1953

Enjoy YOUR day

I am - believe me.

I was at my local Aldi's half an hour before opening and was one of the first people in the queue for one of those 32" TVs

Have the forethought to have enquired a couple of days ago to ensure they actually had them .....

I'm enjoying my afternoon watching a film on a huge lovely TV ...

Enjoy your work ..... I'll bet my day is better than yours (despite my start time of 6pm this evening)

Last edited by tomorrow : 23-11-2006 at 13:19.

call100 · 23-11-2006, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by jturner1953

I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years.

I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one.

Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy

than a conventional CRT of equivalent size.

So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening

.

I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria.

That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest

Enjoy YOUR day

J

And? What light did you see? Go to your local Hi Fi dealers, (Any of them) and you will hardly find any hysteria going on in the TV sections.
Not sure that the 40% figure is right. They use far less when in standbye than a CRT.
At the end of the day you either want one or not. It's not compulsory. Go on. You know you want to.....

nick h · 23-11-2006, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by jturner1953

I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years.

I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one.

Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy

than a conventional CRT of equivalent size.

So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening

.

I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria.

That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest

Enjoy YOUR day

J

you are joking

40% of next to nothing - maybe an extra lightbulb - if the running costs bother you then maybe you should question tv ownership in general!

the only hysteria seems to be on your behalf

your loss

Last edited by nick h : 23-11-2006 at 15:00.

blueboy · 23-11-2006, 14:59

I like many people have the bad habit of leaving TV`S etc in standby mode. A staggering 3W of wastage on my LCD compared to the 60w my old CRT was using.

I think someone got their facts wrong on this one. They have not given the complete picture.

Even when in use, i view it like a car. You can have a 1.1 or a 2.0 engine. Obviously the bigger the engine the bigger the cost, but a better ride no doubt. Like everything in life, you pay for what you use. You stay Mini my freind and i will stay Rolls Royce.

Your choice !

nick h · 23-11-2006, 15:08

best to leave in standbye - avoids PSU 'potential' problems

thank god he does not own a valve amp that needs up to 2hrs warm up from switch on

FlatProblem · 23-11-2006, 15:22

LCD using more power is rubbish... Though I'm not surprised if it was on the BBC.

LCD uses far LESS energy than CRT (one of the many reasons computer monitors are LCD now not CRT) for equivelant size.

I wonder if they were talking comparisons? ie, 15 years ago, the average new TV size would have been 21" CRT, and now its 32" LCD? Even so, I'd be willing to bet a 15 year old CRT uses alot more power than a 32" LCD!

meltcity · 23-11-2006, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlatProblem

LCD using more power is rubbish... Though I'm not surprised if it was on the BBC.

LCD uses far LESS energy than CRT (one of the many reasons computer monitors are LCD now not CRT) for equivelant size.

I wonder if they were talking comparisons? ie, 15 years ago, the average new TV size would have been 21" CRT, and now its 32" LCD? Even so, I'd be willing to bet a 15 year old CRT uses alot more power than a 32" LCD!

Actually the power consumption of similar sized CRT and LCD screens is about the same. Most people will be replacing their CRTs with a much larger screen, and a 40" LCD will consume about 40% more power than a 28" CRT.

I find it hard to believe that blueboy's CRT consumed 60W of power in standby - unless it was faulty. Typical power consumption for standby is <5W.

bobcar · 23-11-2006, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltcity

I find it hard to believe that blueboy's CRT consumed 60W of power in standby - unless it was faulty. Typical power consumption for standby is <5W.

He probably had one of those "instant power up" models where the heater current is maintained when in standby, very bad design.

Standby should be the same for LCD and CRT depending on how good the design is, all the TV has to do is maintain enough power to be activated by the remote control.

newton01 · 23-11-2006, 22:56

I have a 50hz 32" crt and had a 28" crt and both are 50-70watts and most of the lcd's 32" and over I have put on the meter have been over 120 watts, the plasma was 200 watts.
I used to believe the hype about the low power consumption until I read the figures and tested them with a power meter. Looks like it was just another marketing ploy.

I still have a crt and will not be getting an lcd.

steveyboybmth · 23-11-2006, 23:08

I was of the impression that a Plasma used 40% more power, but not LCD

mossy2103 · 23-11-2006, 23:22

It could be that Plasmas, with their larger screen sizes, DO use more power compared to the generally smaller LCD screens. For example, the largest LCD from Panasonic (32inch TX-32LXD500) is rated at 172W, 0.4W standby, whereas the smallest Panasonic Plasma (37inch TH-37PD60) is rated at 206W, 0.3W standby. But maybe pound for pound (or should that be inch for inch) the consumption is broadly similar.

My 32inch widescreen crt is rated 155W

Technophile · 24-11-2006, 08:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by newton01

I have a 50hz 32" crt and had a 28" crt and both are 50-70watts and most of the lcd's 32" and over I have put on the meter have been over 120 watts, the plasma was 200 watts.

That's about what I've found too. LCDs use a bit more than CRTs but you can't get big widescreen CRTs and if you could the picture would be terrible. The real culprits are plasma which are nearly double the consumption of an equivalent LCD, although they do double up as an extra radiatior.

call100 · 24-11-2006, 08:05

Well if you can afford to buy LCD then a couple of quid on the electricity bill won't make much difference. I can't say I have seen a massive leap in my bills since taking ownership.
I suggest the light going on for the OP used up far more energy.

I can't understand that he wanted one that badly he was willing to go early to get one then on some report on the radio decided that he had a lucky escape.
I think that mine was worth every penny and thoroughly enjoy it...

mossy2103 · 24-11-2006, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technophile

The real culprits are plasma which are nearly double the consumption of an equivalent LCD, although they do double up as an extra radiatior.

Not according to the rating figures supplied by Panasonic for their Viera ranges - see my post above. Plasmas are certainly NOT nearly double.

bobcar · 24-11-2006, 09:46

With LCDs the backlight must make a very large contribution to the power consumption so having that low should make a big difference. The DSP must have an effect as well but nothing you can do about that.

TMWWT · 24-11-2006, 10:18

jturner, I was very glad to read you were concerned about the environment and changed your habits as a result. That's great!

Facts about power consumption are often hard to come by. I have a power meter that cost £15 and I use it to work out the cost of running all my home gear, leaving it in standby etc. By far the biggest offenders are the kettle and the tumble drier.

Have you considered switching to a green tarrif? All your electricity will be sourced from renewables. I'm with the Scottish Power tarrif, and when I switched I actually saved money from my existing supplier. uSwitch is a good site for info on this.

Re. TV hear, I put all my gear that doesn't need to be on standby (everything other than the Sky+) on one socket, turn that off at night.

MicroSmurf · 24-11-2006, 12:03

Just looked the manuals for the power consumption of 3 of my TVs.

25" Sony CRT (17 years old) 157W
14" JVC CRT (about 5 years old) 80W
17" Relisys LCD (less than a year old) 70W

No Standby figures were given for any of them, but the LCD does use less even though compared to the 14" CRT it's minimal.

late8 · 24-11-2006, 12:40

People still don't get it... its nothing to do with there own running costs.. its the cost of the environment and demand on a national scale. 3 Million LCD TV's burning 40% more than CRT's is a hell of allot of energy.

Leaving 3Million LCD's in standby each consuming 0.1W is also a lot of waste.

mossy2103 · 24-11-2006, 17:37

I also gather that an lcd will consume the same level of power regardless as to what is displayed. A plasma's consumption varies according to the brightness of what is displayed. A low-light, dark image will result in a lower consumption than a bright image.

blueboy · 24-11-2006, 23:35

Just wondering how many of you fly regularly to your chosen holiday destination? How many of you own a large family car over for example a 1.4 engine?

The point being that in comparison to the damage to the environment they do, a 3w TV in standby mode is hardly worth mentioning. Of course everything mounts up combined but lets keep a sense of perspective.

Glenn24v · 25-11-2006, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueboy

Just wondering how many of you fly regularly to your chosen holiday destination? How many of you own a large family car over for example a 1.4 engine?

The point being that in comparison to the damage to the environment they do, a 3w TV in standby mode is hardly worth mentioning. Of course everything mounts up combined but lets keep a sense of perspective.

I have a 2.5 engine in my car. I switch everything off (except Sky boxes) at night though.

JBlink · 25-11-2006, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by late8

Leaving 3Million LCD's in standby each consuming 0.1W is also a lot of waste.

But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it.

Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week.

nick h · 25-11-2006, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBlink

But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it.

Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week.

yes like you - everything on standby - most folk are not aware of power cycling fatigue etc

funny how people complain about tv/av gear but use a tumble drier

and i drive a 4x4 -

Last edited by nick h : 25-11-2006 at 12:37.

bobcar · 25-11-2006, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBlink

But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it.

Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week.

There's no reason why LCDs should consume less in standby than CRTs. The only function in standby is to allow the Ir receiver to pick up the remote and turn the main power on, this should take the same power with any display technology.

Some CRTs leave the heater (and other circuitry) on so that the display comes up quickly after pressing the remote, I consider this very poor design and in my opinion should be banned.

It's because of people like yourself that we need some type of carbon credit card.

23-11-2006, 08:54	#1
jturner1953 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Oxfordshire Posts: 30	LCD TV Mania - I've seen the light I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years. I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one. Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy than a conventional CRT of equivalent size. So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening . I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria. That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest Enjoy YOUR day J

23-11-2006, 14:59	#5
blueboy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 2,052	I like many people have the bad habit of leaving TV`S etc in standby mode. A staggering 3W of wastage on my LCD compared to the 60w my old CRT was using. I think someone got their facts wrong on this one. They have not given the complete picture. Even when in use, i view it like a car. You can have a 1.1 or a 2.0 engine. Obviously the bigger the engine the bigger the cost, but a better ride no doubt. Like everything in life, you pay for what you use. You stay Mini my freind and i will stay Rolls Royce. Your choice ! Last edited by blueboy : 23-11-2006 at 15:00.

23-11-2006, 23:22	#12
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	It could be that Plasmas, with their larger screen sizes, DO use more power compared to the generally smaller LCD screens. For example, the largest LCD from Panasonic (32inch TX-32LXD500) is rated at 172W, 0.4W standby, whereas the smallest Panasonic Plasma (37inch TH-37PD60) is rated at 206W, 0.3W standby. But maybe pound for pound (or should that be inch for inch) the consumption is broadly similar. My 32inch widescreen crt is rated 155W Last edited by mossy2103 : 23-11-2006 at 23:23.

23-11-2006, 13:17	#2
tomorrow Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: WHATM - RIP BB Posts: 31,478	Quote: Originally Posted by jturner1953 Enjoy YOUR day I am - believe me. I was at my local Aldi's half an hour before opening and was one of the first people in the queue for one of those 32" TVs Have the forethought to have enquired a couple of days ago to ensure they actually had them ..... I'm enjoying my afternoon watching a film on a huge lovely TV ... Enjoy your work ..... I'll bet my day is better than yours (despite my start time of 6pm this evening) Last edited by tomorrow : 23-11-2006 at 13:19.

23-11-2006, 14:51	#3
call100 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,572	Quote: Originally Posted by jturner1953 I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years. I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one. Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy than a conventional CRT of equivalent size. So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening . I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria. That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest Enjoy YOUR day J And? What light did you see? Go to your local Hi Fi dealers, (Any of them) and you will hardly find any hysteria going on in the TV sections. Not sure that the 40% figure is right. They use far less when in standbye than a CRT. At the end of the day you either want one or not. It's not compulsory. Go on. You know you want to.....

23-11-2006, 14:57	#4
nick h Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 331	Quote: Originally Posted by jturner1953 I have been engulfed in this mania for the move to LCD TV. I have a perfectly good Lodos (Sainsbury) 28" CRT which has entertained me for over 2 years. I have my name down for a Technosonic from Woolies but this morning I was stupid enough to get up at 5am (listening to the depressing Ashes broadcast on FiveLiveExtra), gloss paint a door and be outside the Aldi in Banbury (20miles away) at 06:45am with the intention of buying one of their 32" Tevion TV's - stupid or what!?! I found on my arrival that they open at 09:00 and even then there was no gurantee that they would have one. Anyway after 15mins sitting in the dark empty wet'n'windy car park having envisaged queues up the YingYang, I thought this was crazy. I had just heard on Radio 5 that there are now 3,000,000 LCD TVs in use in the UK of which 500,000 were sold in October alone - AND that they consume 40% more energy than a conventional CRT of equivalent size. So rather than incur the boss's wrath for arriving at work an hour late, I drove off and was at my desk 90 minutes early and will be leaving for home 90 minutes earlier this evening . I will thoroughly research this when I am ready to buy a LCD TV and not allow myself to get rushed along on a tidal wave of what can only be described as hysteria. That's me starting the day right and getting it off my chest Enjoy YOUR day J you are joking 40% of next to nothing - maybe an extra lightbulb - if the running costs bother you then maybe you should question tv ownership in general! the only hysteria seems to be on your behalf your loss Last edited by nick h : 23-11-2006 at 15:00.

23-11-2006, 15:08	#6
nick h Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 331	best to leave in standbye - avoids PSU 'potential' problems thank god he does not own a valve amp that needs up to 2hrs warm up from switch on

23-11-2006, 15:22	#7
FlatProblem Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Harrogate, North Yorkshire Posts: 901	LCD using more power is rubbish... Though I'm not surprised if it was on the BBC. LCD uses far LESS energy than CRT (one of the many reasons computer monitors are LCD now not CRT) for equivelant size. I wonder if they were talking comparisons? ie, 15 years ago, the average new TV size would have been 21" CRT, and now its 32" LCD? Even so, I'd be willing to bet a 15 year old CRT uses alot more power than a 32" LCD!

23-11-2006, 21:45	#8
meltcity Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,770	Quote: Originally Posted by FlatProblem LCD using more power is rubbish... Though I'm not surprised if it was on the BBC. LCD uses far LESS energy than CRT (one of the many reasons computer monitors are LCD now not CRT) for equivelant size. I wonder if they were talking comparisons? ie, 15 years ago, the average new TV size would have been 21" CRT, and now its 32" LCD? Even so, I'd be willing to bet a 15 year old CRT uses alot more power than a 32" LCD! Actually the power consumption of similar sized CRT and LCD screens is about the same. Most people will be replacing their CRTs with a much larger screen, and a 40" LCD will consume about 40% more power than a 28" CRT. I find it hard to believe that blueboy's CRT consumed 60W of power in standby - unless it was faulty. Typical power consumption for standby is <5W.

23-11-2006, 22:38	#9
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by meltcity I find it hard to believe that blueboy's CRT consumed 60W of power in standby - unless it was faulty. Typical power consumption for standby is <5W. He probably had one of those "instant power up" models where the heater current is maintained when in standby, very bad design. Standby should be the same for LCD and CRT depending on how good the design is, all the TV has to do is maintain enough power to be activated by the remote control.

23-11-2006, 22:56	#10
newton01 Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21	I have a 50hz 32" crt and had a 28" crt and both are 50-70watts and most of the lcd's 32" and over I have put on the meter have been over 120 watts, the plasma was 200 watts. I used to believe the hype about the low power consumption until I read the figures and tested them with a power meter. Looks like it was just another marketing ploy. I still have a crt and will not be getting an lcd.

23-11-2006, 23:08	#11
steveyboybmth Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 3,463	I was of the impression that a Plasma used 40% more power, but not LCD

24-11-2006, 08:05	#13
Technophile Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 113	Quote: Originally Posted by newton01 I have a 50hz 32" crt and had a 28" crt and both are 50-70watts and most of the lcd's 32" and over I have put on the meter have been over 120 watts, the plasma was 200 watts. That's about what I've found too. LCDs use a bit more than CRTs but you can't get big widescreen CRTs and if you could the picture would be terrible. The real culprits are plasma which are nearly double the consumption of an equivalent LCD, although they do double up as an extra radiatior.

24-11-2006, 09:05	#15
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	Quote: Originally Posted by Technophile The real culprits are plasma which are nearly double the consumption of an equivalent LCD, although they do double up as an extra radiatior. Not according to the rating figures supplied by Panasonic for their Viera ranges - see my post above. Plasmas are certainly NOT nearly double.

24-11-2006, 09:46	#16
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	With LCDs the backlight must make a very large contribution to the power consumption so having that low should make a big difference. The DSP must have an effect as well but nothing you can do about that.

24-11-2006, 10:18	#17
TMWWT Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 439	jturner, I was very glad to read you were concerned about the environment and changed your habits as a result. That's great! Facts about power consumption are often hard to come by. I have a power meter that cost £15 and I use it to work out the cost of running all my home gear, leaving it in standby etc. By far the biggest offenders are the kettle and the tumble drier. Have you considered switching to a green tarrif? All your electricity will be sourced from renewables. I'm with the Scottish Power tarrif, and when I switched I actually saved money from my existing supplier. uSwitch is a good site for info on this. Re. TV hear, I put all my gear that doesn't need to be on standby (everything other than the Sky+) on one socket, turn that off at night.

24-11-2006, 12:03	#18
MicroSmurf Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Peterborough Posts: 1,177	Just looked the manuals for the power consumption of 3 of my TVs. 25" Sony CRT (17 years old) 157W 14" JVC CRT (about 5 years old) 80W 17" Relisys LCD (less than a year old) 70W No Standby figures were given for any of them, but the LCD does use less even though compared to the 14" CRT it's minimal.

24-11-2006, 12:40	#19
late8 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,052	People still don't get it... its nothing to do with there own running costs.. its the cost of the environment and demand on a national scale. 3 Million LCD TV's burning 40% more than CRT's is a hell of allot of energy. Leaving 3Million LCD's in standby each consuming 0.1W is also a lot of waste.

24-11-2006, 17:37	#20
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	I also gather that an lcd will consume the same level of power regardless as to what is displayed. A plasma's consumption varies according to the brightness of what is displayed. A low-light, dark image will result in a lower consumption than a bright image.

24-11-2006, 23:35	#21
blueboy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 2,052	Just wondering how many of you fly regularly to your chosen holiday destination? How many of you own a large family car over for example a 1.4 engine? The point being that in comparison to the damage to the environment they do, a 3w TV in standby mode is hardly worth mentioning. Of course everything mounts up combined but lets keep a sense of perspective.

25-11-2006, 09:53	#22
Glenn24v Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: services off Posts: 1,235	Quote: Originally Posted by blueboy Just wondering how many of you fly regularly to your chosen holiday destination? How many of you own a large family car over for example a 1.4 engine? The point being that in comparison to the damage to the environment they do, a 3w TV in standby mode is hardly worth mentioning. Of course everything mounts up combined but lets keep a sense of perspective. I have a 2.5 engine in my car. I switch everything off (except Sky boxes) at night though.

25-11-2006, 11:57	#23
JBlink Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 2,926	Quote: Originally Posted by late8 Leaving 3Million LCD's in standby each consuming 0.1W is also a lot of waste. But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it. Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week.

25-11-2006, 12:32	#24
nick h Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 331	Quote: Originally Posted by JBlink But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it. Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week. yes like you - everything on standby - most folk are not aware of power cycling fatigue etc funny how people complain about tv/av gear but use a tumble drier and i drive a 4x4 - Last edited by nick h : 25-11-2006 at 12:37.

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LCD TV Mania - I've seen the light

25-11-2006, 14:12	#25
bobcar Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14,718	Quote: Originally Posted by JBlink But not as much as 3 million CRTs in standby. On the assumption you are not going to change the habits of a lunchtime, it would make sense to switch to LCDs. Mine uses around 80% of the power of its predecessor CRT in use and around 10% in standby. Not that that was the reason for buying it. Oh, 2.0 Diesel, 1.8 petrol, 1.4 petrol. Everything left on standby to minimise power cycling fatigue (or can't be arsed to switch off on the button on the box) and average one flight a week. There's no reason why LCDs should consume less in standby than CRTs. The only function in standby is to allow the Ir receiver to pick up the remote and turn the main power on, this should take the same power with any display technology. Some CRTs leave the heater (and other circuitry) on so that the display comes up quickly after pressing the remote, I consider this very poor design and in my opinion should be banned. It's because of people like yourself that we need some type of carbon credit card.