Originally Posted by faded:
“http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2006320767,00.html
heres a more in-depth one”
“http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2006320767,00.html
heres a more in-depth one”
Thats the one faded
NTA...Nikki Thread of Appreciation (Merged)
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Originally Posted by JANEM8888:
“Thats the one faded”
“Thats the one faded”
I remember scanning that article a while back, as I still have the newspaper
You can understand now why Nikki started having tantrums as she was being forced to do things she didnt want to and getting into a state and they had to sedate her.They cant sedate her now!!It mentions the fits as well.Thats the scar on her tummy .It was caused by her ripping out her tubes.She also still drinks all that water and that could be why she holds such a fuss about it as well as the germ thing.I wish more people had read this when they were calling her everything.I wish Petes friends had read this as well .It would have explained a lot to them about her behaviour.I wonder if Pete actually knows all the details as well.We dont Know how much of her story he actually knows.Maybe we should put it on the BNNP site as Pete fans are quick enough to draw attention to tourettes all the time.eg the programme the other night
nobody mentioned the anorexia one on the other channel an hour earlier
nobody mentioned the anorexia one on the other channel an hour earlier
I was wondering too Jane how much Pete really knows about anorexia - he probably hasn't read all the stories as we know he doesn't read!!!
I know Nikki told them in the house about it all but its not the same as reading about it. It explains why she is so vulnerable as a person - how every day must be a constant battle to eat or not eat - hence the obssession with exercise and eating with a teaspoon. Pete accepted those as part of what Nikki is - but I do wonder whether he really understood why.
Given time perhaps he might have been more understanding and treated the break up better - but events intervened - not least in the person of Gemma. Not that I blame her for this.
I've always thought that Pete sort of gets away with things because he has TS which is obvious - anorexia isn't - and so Nikki just gets seen as a tantrum throwing diva
I know Nikki told them in the house about it all but its not the same as reading about it. It explains why she is so vulnerable as a person - how every day must be a constant battle to eat or not eat - hence the obssession with exercise and eating with a teaspoon. Pete accepted those as part of what Nikki is - but I do wonder whether he really understood why.
Given time perhaps he might have been more understanding and treated the break up better - but events intervened - not least in the person of Gemma. Not that I blame her for this.
I've always thought that Pete sort of gets away with things because he has TS which is obvious - anorexia isn't - and so Nikki just gets seen as a tantrum throwing diva
Originally Posted by havergal:
“I was wondering too Jane how much Pete really knows about anorexia - he probably hasn't read all the stories as we know he doesn't read!!!
I know Nikki told them in the house about it all but its not the same as reading about it. It explains why she is so vulnerable as a person - how every day must be a constant battle to eat or not eat - hence the obssession with exercise and eating with a teaspoon. Pete accepted those as part of what Nikki is - but I do wonder whether he really understood why.
Given time perhaps he might have been more understanding and treated the break up better - but events intervened - not least in the person of Gemma. Not that I blame her for this.
I've always thought that Pete sort of gets away with things because he has TS which is obvious - anorexia isn't - and so Nikki just gets seen as a tantrum throwing diva”
“I was wondering too Jane how much Pete really knows about anorexia - he probably hasn't read all the stories as we know he doesn't read!!!
I know Nikki told them in the house about it all but its not the same as reading about it. It explains why she is so vulnerable as a person - how every day must be a constant battle to eat or not eat - hence the obssession with exercise and eating with a teaspoon. Pete accepted those as part of what Nikki is - but I do wonder whether he really understood why.
Given time perhaps he might have been more understanding and treated the break up better - but events intervened - not least in the person of Gemma. Not that I blame her for this.
I've always thought that Pete sort of gets away with things because he has TS which is obvious - anorexia isn't - and so Nikki just gets seen as a tantrum throwing diva”
you are right and if they changed places would Nikki not have won BB by a mile!!
Did the other HMs know about nikkis past
i know she told lisa because in week 2 nikki said she wasnt hungry or something and lisa went mental with her and she sounded genuinly upset about it
i know she told lisa because in week 2 nikki said she wasnt hungry or something and lisa went mental with her and she sounded genuinly upset about it
Originally Posted by JANEM8888:
“You can understand now why Nikki started having tantrums as she was being forced to do things she didnt want to and getting into a state and they had to sedate her.They cant sedate her now!!It mentions the fits as well.Thats the scar on her tummy .It was caused by her ripping out her tubes.She also still drinks all that water and that could be why she holds such a fuss about it as well as the germ thing.I wish more people had read this when they were calling her everything.I wish Petes friends had read this as well .It would have explained a lot to them about her behaviour.I wonder if Pete actually knows all the details as well.We dont Know how much of her story he actually knows.Maybe we should put it on the BNNP site as Pete fans are quick enough to draw attention to tourettes all the time.eg the programme the other night
nobody mentioned the anorexia one on the other channel an hour earlier”
“You can understand now why Nikki started having tantrums as she was being forced to do things she didnt want to and getting into a state and they had to sedate her.They cant sedate her now!!It mentions the fits as well.Thats the scar on her tummy .It was caused by her ripping out her tubes.She also still drinks all that water and that could be why she holds such a fuss about it as well as the germ thing.I wish more people had read this when they were calling her everything.I wish Petes friends had read this as well .It would have explained a lot to them about her behaviour.I wonder if Pete actually knows all the details as well.We dont Know how much of her story he actually knows.Maybe we should put it on the BNNP site as Pete fans are quick enough to draw attention to tourettes all the time.eg the programme the other night
nobody mentioned the anorexia one on the other channel an hour earlier”
IMO Jane, Tourettes has been more prominent because Pete made a point about raising TS awareness. With Nikki imo never really wanted to highlight the anorexia other than the odd comment. She may find it too traumatic to be interviewed on TV etc about it. Anorexics fight a daily battle and are very prone to daily routines and idiosyncrises to keep their anorexic tendencies at bay.
Originally Posted by missglitter:
“I can't speak for Nikki, but I can offer a little bit of insight to the illness, from my own long struggle with it. All I can say is that during my recovery, I have been incredibly childish, selfish and aggressive. Anorexia effectively stunts your maturity at the age it starts, and when you stop using anorexia as a coping method you sort of return to the age you were when it began - even if you are now an adult. You sort of have to do your growing up all over again because you never learned how to deal with life properly because you were so focused on maintaining your eating disorder. I'm not making excuses for Nikki, but I'm just saying that I really recognise many aspects of her behaviour with my own experience and fellow sufferer's actions as well, and it does seem fairly typical of someone who has suffered from an eating disorder in the past.”
“I can't speak for Nikki, but I can offer a little bit of insight to the illness, from my own long struggle with it. All I can say is that during my recovery, I have been incredibly childish, selfish and aggressive. Anorexia effectively stunts your maturity at the age it starts, and when you stop using anorexia as a coping method you sort of return to the age you were when it began - even if you are now an adult. You sort of have to do your growing up all over again because you never learned how to deal with life properly because you were so focused on maintaining your eating disorder. I'm not making excuses for Nikki, but I'm just saying that I really recognise many aspects of her behaviour with my own experience and fellow sufferer's actions as well, and it does seem fairly typical of someone who has suffered from an eating disorder in the past.”
Originally Posted by catspaw:
“Added to which anorexia and OCD are addictive illnesses just like alcholism or drug dependency; sufferers are never genuinely cured, but have to learn to control their addictions. Hence the ritualistic and strictly adhered to eating habits, the need to drink water from a specific glass and in a specific way and so on. The chances are that, if Nikki didn't follow the very strict routine she's carved out for herself, she'd relapse. Addicts of any kind also tend to have incredibly low self-esteem, and need to indulge their needs or find something else to feel the 'gap' simply to feel less bad about themselves. And, if things go off track, all hell can break loose.
I feel desperately sorry for Nikki. I don't think it's all an act in the true sense of the word. I think it's evidence that the illness is still with her mentally, even if it's no longer apparent physically - she may have learnt to eat and not to wash her hands every 5 minutes, but the psychological facets of the illness are still very much there.”
“Added to which anorexia and OCD are addictive illnesses just like alcholism or drug dependency; sufferers are never genuinely cured, but have to learn to control their addictions. Hence the ritualistic and strictly adhered to eating habits, the need to drink water from a specific glass and in a specific way and so on. The chances are that, if Nikki didn't follow the very strict routine she's carved out for herself, she'd relapse. Addicts of any kind also tend to have incredibly low self-esteem, and need to indulge their needs or find something else to feel the 'gap' simply to feel less bad about themselves. And, if things go off track, all hell can break loose.
I feel desperately sorry for Nikki. I don't think it's all an act in the true sense of the word. I think it's evidence that the illness is still with her mentally, even if it's no longer apparent physically - she may have learnt to eat and not to wash her hands every 5 minutes, but the psychological facets of the illness are still very much there.”
i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot
Originally Posted by faded:
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
thanks for those - they were interesting - and as nota says - its a daily battle
wish more people knew about this before slagging off Nikki - she's a brave girl
Originally Posted by faded:
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
Thanks faded......and to Missglitter and Catspaw
The posts really bring home the reality of anorexia and peoples coping mechanisms.
Originally Posted by faded:
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
“i found these old posts and found them quite interesting and explained alot”
Thanks for these faded
these are very interesting.I think unless you have experienced anoerexia or bullemia first hand or been close to someone with it, it is never understood fully.
It is a terrible illness and as the posters said part of it is always with you.
People that criticise and have no understanding towards suffering of this, really should look at the full picture before doing so. Mental illnesses are just as serious and can be life threatening as much as physical illnesses
Originally Posted by shopoholic:
“Thanks for these faded these are very interesting.
I think unless you have experienced anoerexia or bullemia first hand or been close to someone with it, it is never understood fully.
It is a terrible illness and as the posters said part of it is always with you.
People that criticise and have no understanding towards suffering of this, really should look at the full picture before doing so. Mental illnesses are just as serious and can be life threatening as much as physical illnesses”
“Thanks for these faded
these are very interesting.I think unless you have experienced anoerexia or bullemia first hand or been close to someone with it, it is never understood fully.
It is a terrible illness and as the posters said part of it is always with you.
People that criticise and have no understanding towards suffering of this, really should look at the full picture before doing so. Mental illnesses are just as serious and can be life threatening as much as physical illnesses
”
Hi Shopo, you are so right. Most mental illnesses have no outwardly gestures that onlookers can see and this is probably why to answer Janes query about why Nikki's is mainly ignored and Pete's is not.
Pete's gestures and speech are there to see and as such questions are asked. With Nikki, unless you were told of her eating disorder and ocd's you question her behaviour, not why she behaves that way. If you catch my drift....
Originally Posted by Notaword:
“IMO Jane, Tourettes has been more prominent because Pete made a point about raising TS awareness. With Nikki imo never really wanted to highlight the anorexia other than the odd comment. She may find it too traumatic to be interviewed on TV etc about it. Anorexics fight a daily battle and are very prone to daily routines and idiosyncrises to keep their anorexic tendencies at bay.”
“IMO Jane, Tourettes has been more prominent because Pete made a point about raising TS awareness. With Nikki imo never really wanted to highlight the anorexia other than the odd comment. She may find it too traumatic to be interviewed on TV etc about it. Anorexics fight a daily battle and are very prone to daily routines and idiosyncrises to keep their anorexic tendencies at bay.”
I think this is the point - Pete wanted to raise awareness of TS and has done a great job IMO. He wanted to do it because people don't understand it and are criticised for their swearing etc. He has to live with it ever day which is dreadful - but nikki and othere anorexics have to live with anorexia every day as well - its less obvious and equally misunderstood - and is no less difficult to live with. And in fact is more common even when its not as bad as in Nikki's case
Originally Posted by Notaword:
“Hi Shopo, you are so right. Most mental illnesses have no outwardly gestures that onlookers can see and this is probably why to answer Janes query about why Nikki's is mainly ignored and Pete's is not.
Pete's gestures and speech are there to see and as such questions are asked. With Nikki, unless you were told of her eating disorder and ocd's you question her behaviour, not why she behaves that way. If you catch my drift....”
“Hi Shopo, you are so right. Most mental illnesses have no outwardly gestures that onlookers can see and this is probably why to answer Janes query about why Nikki's is mainly ignored and Pete's is not.
Pete's gestures and speech are there to see and as such questions are asked. With Nikki, unless you were told of her eating disorder and ocd's you question her behaviour, not why she behaves that way. If you catch my drift....”
Yes indeed nota - which is basically what I was trying to say above
Originally Posted by Notaword:
“Hi Shopo, you are so right. Most mental illnesses have no outwardly gestures that onlookers can see and this is probably why to answer Janes query about why Nikki's is mainly ignored and Pete's is not.
Pete's gestures and speech are there to see and as such questions are asked. With Nikki, unless you were told of her eating disorder and ocd's you question her behaviour, not why she behaves that way. If you catch my drift....”
“Hi Shopo, you are so right. Most mental illnesses have no outwardly gestures that onlookers can see and this is probably why to answer Janes query about why Nikki's is mainly ignored and Pete's is not.
Pete's gestures and speech are there to see and as such questions are asked. With Nikki, unless you were told of her eating disorder and ocd's you question her behaviour, not why she behaves that way. If you catch my drift....”
Yes i totally know what you mean
Originally Posted by faded:
“Did the other HMs know about nikkis past
i know she told lisa because in week 2 nikki said she wasnt hungry or something and lisa went mental with her and she sounded genuinly upset about it”
“Did the other HMs know about nikkis past
i know she told lisa because in week 2 nikki said she wasnt hungry or something and lisa went mental with her and she sounded genuinly upset about it”
By the time she had the argument with Mikey about the drink, Lea knew, you can tell because of the things she says when she's doing her ranting
. If you can, have a look on youtube, theres an unedited one, its dead obvious.
Re Nikki's story
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.
Originally Posted by the bart:
“Re Nikki's story
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.”
“Re Nikki's story
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.”
I agree Bart. I watched that programme too
There are many reasons eating disorders start and sometimes its because of something someone has said to the person.
a little comment can affect the rest of someones life
Originally Posted by the bart:
“Re Nikki's story
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.”
“Re Nikki's story
This story is so harrowing and upsetting. I watched the program on tv last week about anorexia, which was upsetting enough. I knew at the time that in Nikki's case it was more serious, but just how much I really hadn't realised. What she's gone through is horrendous. How her parents coped I can't imagine. I'm so very proud of Nikki that she has managed to turn things round.
Maybe on a selfish note, I think all the people who helped Nikki deserve a great deal of thanks, if it wasn't for them Nikki would not have been here to entertain me all summer and beyond.”
She wouldn't want attention drawn to it though, I think thats why she comments on it but doesn't linger on it loads, our Sarah doesn't really like talking about a lot. She'll tell me, or others if she's in the mood, but if she's struggling a bit, she won't say a word.
Anyone who gets out of the worst of such a horrible thing deserve praise though
Originally Posted by Keepin' It Real:
“She wouldn't want attention drawn to it though, I think thats why she comments on it but doesn't linger on it loads, our Sarah doesn't really like talking about a lot. She'll tell me, or others if she's in the mood, but if she's struggling a bit, she won't say a word.
Anyone who gets out of the worst of such a horrible thing deserve praise though”
“She wouldn't want attention drawn to it though, I think thats why she comments on it but doesn't linger on it loads, our Sarah doesn't really like talking about a lot. She'll tell me, or others if she's in the mood, but if she's struggling a bit, she won't say a word.
Anyone who gets out of the worst of such a horrible thing deserve praise though”
I agree with you KIR..................your Sarah taught me so much when she came on bnnp. The insight into her eating disorder helped with my understanding. She was very brave to talk so openly to all us biddy's.
Poor ole Nikki, what a harrowing time that was for her and her family. She's been so brave. Thats why i think shes been so appreciative of all thats happened to her since, she was so humble at the NTAs on accepting her award, also on This Morning when she said omigod, look i'm on This Morning, or words to that effect. Thank God she survived so we are able to appreciate the Fabulousness that is Nikki Grahame.....
Illness is a terrible thing which also affects the mind
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
Originally Posted by shopoholic:
“
“
Illness is a terrible thing which also affects the mind
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
”
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
Thats very true Shop.....thanks!
I wonder how Nikki dealt/is dealing with all the criticism since appearing on bb....i hope shes dealing with it ok
Originally Posted by shopoholic:
“
“
Illness is a terrible thing which also affects the mind
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
”
Often something can be said which is very unkind
Think of what your saying and how others may feel
Could be the start of something bad -
like skipping to many meals
Nikki and many others have suffered a heck of a lot
Because its not always mentioned it is too often forgot
Nice one shopo.......>< >< ><
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