Scott is a strong person... he may be seemingly self deluded about a lot of things, but he is/was a strong character surely?

Ok, let me try and understand this. When you wrote:


did you mean to equate "mental" strength with strength of "character"? I don't believe Scott is mentally strong even though he may be a strong character. I believe he puts on a front but his mask slipped many a time in that jungle!

*whispers* I think you mean vulnerable sweetie

I think viewers actually tend to regard mentally weak male contestants with contempt to be honest. Look how many people are saying Scott is 'not a man' for example. It doesn't appear to have anything to do with his sexuality but rather that he is percieved as weak.

GET GRACE OUT! GET GRACE OUT!

Oops sorry, wrong show, old habits die hard!

GET PHINA OUT! GET PHINA OUT!

I feel better now I've got that off my chest!

PS. In Phina's case, for 'strong' read 'selfish'.
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How exactly did Scott demonstrate this strength of character, then? In failing two trials at the first hurdle? I've know amoebae with more backbone than Scott, and they're much less bitchy as well.

Yes I'll agree with that, Scott is a total invertebrate... no spine whatsoever!

Generally, I agree with your comments, although I wouldn't describe this behaviour as overcompensation. It depends on your place in this society. However, to the indigenous population this is interpreted as cocky, overbearing, pushy, aggressive, etc. We keep saying we're all the same, but we're not.

That's an attitude that annoys me. Sorry. They're older, and they're using their feminity in different ways. I'm tired of the idea that women in reality shows have to fit a "woman's woman" stereotype to avoid being disliked.

Well, wait a minute. I think I'm with SWW here.

Sure, Scott failed trials and indeed didn't make much of an effort. But when he'd had enough, he stopped. He didn't turn it into a big drama.

There's a lot of pressure on the celebs to do the trials. In a way, the whole show is based on the premise that celebs will be so "desperate" to further or revive their careers that they'll eat bugs or worse to do it.

Scott stayed true to himself. (I'm glad he's out, though.)

I'm on the same wavelength as you and SWW here.

If Scott had one redeeming quality it was the fact that he was going to do his thing and not cave into what was expected of him. So in that respect, he's truer to himself than most of the others. And like you, I'm glad he's out, but that's because of his less redeeming qualities.

"Scott stayed true to himself" indeed! This is why he was gutted he got voted out even after finding out the reasons for his unpopularity and to add insult to his injury, he lost out to Lauren (a fat person) in their "vote off"
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Could you please express that point with less irony and sarcasm so that I can tell what you're trying to say (rather than what you're not)?

That is the point I was trying to make! Apologies if you don't understand it.

Losing out to a fat person! The ultimate shame for Scott. Very funny.

How he could think he's vile behaviour/personality would endear him to the voting public is completely beyond me . Perhaps, he thought he could be the "Nikki Grahame" of the jungle

I don't think a deluded coward can be described as having a strong personality!

Your right about him being deluded and even a coward in the most part of his personality. However, where he differed from the others..and showed strength was that he didn't seem to care what the public thought of him and stuck to his beliefs....regardless of public opinion.

But does this make him a "strong" character? I think not!

The fact that he's deluded rules out any chance of him being a strong character in my opinion.

What it showed me (in regards the tasks) was that he was true to himself and didn't bother his shirt about trying to impress anybody. I liked that quality about him.

Deluded in other aspects.....yes probably..in fact, definitely

You could look at Scott like that, or you could look at him another way....his head is so far up his own jacksie that he can't see that he's a prat.

Yes you could say that

I'm in no way a fan but admired him sticking by his own set of principles..even if he was an ass.

That's all part of his delusion

Do you think he actually has any principles other than self promotion?

I don't think so, he backed out of two trials within minutes, knowing that he would go back to camp, lie, play the injured party and the others would pat him on the back. Scott's the sort of person that quickly assesses those around him, and knows how much he can manipulate them for his own ends, and his own comfort.

Nothing principled about him, he's simply self serving IMO.

I wholeheartedly agree with this post!

Self promotion? Definitely.

Believed his own hype? Yes

Stuck to his principles about not doing certain tasks if it didn't suit him instead of currying favour or the sympathy vote from the public? Yes again.

Nobody is black and white and I see shades of grey in all of them. It's just that we like or dislike some of them more than others. Scott wasn't likeable at all, but it doesn't mean he's got no redeeming qualites whatsoever.

He went into the Jungle on a show called IACGMOOH...which was against trades description on his part as he hardly qualifies as a sleb, but that apart...trials and the doing of, are part of the show...in fact a major, integral part of the show....shape up or ship out, and bu**er your principles.....entertain me or ship out...which he has thank goodness.

I'm sure his mother loves him....which is lucky for him I'd say.