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HDMI Cables - Don't Know Which!
I'm thinking of buying the Samsung DVD-HD860 sometime next year, and it's quite a big upgrade for me (having only just gone HD!). Not like ye olde days where I could just pop down Argos and get any old SCART lead, I now have to thoroughly research all of the innards and cables and so on...
So, can anyone tell me where to get a cheapish HDMI cable to connect this player to my TV? Would anyone recommend using a different cable? If so, what, and where could I find one of them? I want to get the best quality out of it, as well as futureproofing it so I don't have to shell out for anything else in years to come. To throw a complete spanner in the works ( ), is there anyone who'd advise against the Samsung DVD-HD860 for any reason?Thanks! |
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it comes with a perfectly decent cable. I can't tell the difference between it and the one telewest provides free and a £80 cable I stupidly bought
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The key is the fact that it is a DIGITAL interconnect. The only requirement of a digital cable is that the ones and zeros in the source reach the destination without getting garbled.
Any competently designed cable using the correct impedance wiring and properly terminated should do the job. So with that in mind it matters not one jot that the cable cost a quid or a million quid there will be no difference at all between the two.
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Originally Posted by chrisjr
Any competently designed cable using the correct impedance wiring and properly terminated should do the job. So with that in mind it matters not one jot that the cable cost a quid or a million quid
there will be no difference at all between the two.Mmmmmmmm, I'd beg to differ |
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Mmmmmmmm, I'd beg to differ
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Mmmmmmmm, I'd beg to differ
A cable can affect the characteristics of this squarewave in a number of ways. The resistance, inductance and capacitance of the cable can modify the shape of the wave form. It can cause "ringing" - where you see spikes along what should be a smooth top line on an oscilloscope. You can get reflections of the signal in the cable. All of these can blur the distinction between a one and a zero or affect the relative timing of the digital bits. All of which can make the error correction circuits work hard to reconstruct the original data stream. But provided the effects of cable imperfections are minimised then you will get out of the cable exactly what went in at the other end. And that can and often is totally independent of the cost of the cable. And if two cables produce exactly the same sequence of ones and zeros then they will look and sound (as appropriate) exactly the same. |
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I'm thinking of buying the Samsung DVD-HD860 sometime next year, and it's quite a big upgrade for me (having only just gone HD!).
To throw a complete spanner in the works ( ), is there anyone who'd advise against the Samsung DVD-HD860 for any reason?Thanks! Last edited by JonUK : 02-12-2006 at 13:41. |
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Mmmmmmmm, I'd beg to differ
The Lidl lead will do just fine - as well as anything else can. |
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It depends on whether you want 'Real HD' or just an upscaling standard def DVD player, which is what the Samsung DVD-HD860 is.
Say I bought Movie A on DVD and played it on an upscaling DVD player, then say I bought Movie A on HD-DVD and played it on a HD-DVD Player. Would it look any different or better? The item descriptions I've read seem to say that it wouldn't be... |
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I have a Denon upscaling player (£800) and a Toshiba A1 HD-DVD (£400) player and there is a huge difference on my Toshiba 37" LCD. Comparing the DVD's and HD-DVD's of Serenity and Batman Begins the HD-DVD's are CLEAR winners!!
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Ah. So are upscaling DVD players really worth it?
There's no way I can afford a HD-DVD player. |
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Do tell why. Because whatever you say is going to be wrong
However I do take the point that in digital cables the effect of better cable is less noticable than using good analogue cables on analogue sources such using good interconnects etc on audio systems. But as Chrisjr says; Quote:
provided the effects of cable imperfections are minimised then you will get out of the cable exactly what went in at the other end. And that can and often is totally independent of the cost of the cable.
Therefore I still advocate that a decent cable cable (the freebies with equipment generally aren't) will enhance any transfer of data, but I can't agree that quality is independant of cost.
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I got one of these on Friday and it is superb quality. 2m gold plated-What more could you ask for? By the way kndusr19,welcome to the forum! |
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I got one of these on Friday and it is superb quality. 2m gold plated-What more could you ask for?
By the way kndusr19,welcome to the forum! I have been thinking of jumping on the HD bandwagon, but still didn't think that buying my first HD item would be the cable! ......so I gave it a miss this time.
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), is there anyone who'd advise against the Samsung DVD-HD860 for any reason?
there will be no difference at all between the two.
