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DTS or DD5.1 on a VCD?
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
I have a DVD player that can handle Dolby Digital 5.1 sound and it can also play VCD's. Is there any way of getting MPEG files that have 5.1 sound on them so that i can kinda test my player and tweak it to suit. Is there any MPEG files on the net that i can download which have 5.1 so i could just burn it to a CDRW to test my audio setup.
Dan27
20-01-2003
Im not too sure but go and have a look at www.vcdhelp.com if you havent already
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
i dont think its possible for vcds to have 5.1 sound, although i may be wrong and i'd also be interested if anyone knows

p.s. Gamestation are giving out free xbox dvds which have a 5.1 demo on them so that may be of some help
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
I dont know if this is the same for all DVD players, but i can put MPEG files straight onto a CDRW then my DVD player will present me with a 2 pane file navigator where i can select any MPEG or MP3 that i have on the disc.

So are there any ways i can capture 5.1 sound onto a CD for testing on my player?
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
not sure if this'll work but i just found some audio files that say will output 5.1...

http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

im gonna go try them in a minute
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
woo well i just tried out the first house music one and yes it does work and show up as dts, although the actual music is a bit..well..crap

Gonna try out the tex one now or whatever its called

tex one doesnt seem to work just get a load of garbage...
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Exulus
tex one doesnt seem to work just get a load of garbage... ”

Ouch, yes. and i had my headphones on when i played it. I got the shock of my life. :'(
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
the strange thing is, is that all the sound files when played on a computer come up as garbage, but when put on cd and played int he dvd player the music one worked fine, yet the tex one didnt
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Exulus
the strange thing is, is that all the sound files when played on a computer come up as garbage, but when put on cd and played int he dvd player the music one worked fine, yet the tex one didnt ”

Can DVD players play WAV files? I thought it had to be MP1,2,3?
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by TheCableGuy
Can DVD players play WAV files? I thought it had to be MP1,2,3? ”

Whoops, i should have read the instructions:

Quote:
“Download && unzip files
burn WAV-files as Audio-CD ("Red Book")
Play in DTS-/DD-System (CD-Player with digital out connected to digital DTS/DD AV-Receiver)
Have Fun ”


[edit]

I have done this but i still hear 'white noise' kinda sounds.
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
have you tried the other samples? The 1st music one worked for me, havent tried the others yet.
TheCableGuy
20-01-2003
I think i have found something that has pictures aswell as sound. You may recall there are Dolby digital trailers at the cinema, and on some DVD's - i have found an FTP that has loads of these trailers in VOB files, which i think my player should be able to play because VOB files are DVD files (i think thats right.

If you want to take a peek the site is [b]here
Milky Joe
20-01-2003
cool cheers i'll try em out, i found some on digital digest as well i'll post the link in a sec, although i think it might only work if you use dvd discs, not sure though.

Oh and also..

woah you gotta check out the voodoo tracks, they are fantastic. Its DTS as well. They are track 2 and track 3.

You hear all the tribesmen shouting around you then the bass does this weird deepening effect and you sorta feel it through the seat and then this cool drum sequence comes in with loads of weird sounds rushing around you. I was listening to it in total darkness as well which was even better.

edit - just tried the vob files, doesnt work You'll need a proper dvd disc writer to do that...still though i might go on a search for more audio files as those voodoo tribe ones are just f**king insane
TheCableGuy
23-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Exulus
cool cheers i'll try em out, i found some on digital digest as well i'll post the link in a sec, although i think it might only work if you use dvd discs, not sure though. ”

I decided to burn a few VOB files to a CDrw and they work on my DVD player They sound brilliant. Now im searching for some longer VOB files.
Milky Joe
23-01-2003
really? how did you do it? Just put em straight onto cdr? I heard you had to make a VIDEO_TS directory or something..
TheCableGuy
23-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Exulus
really? how did you do it? Just put em straight onto cdr? I heard you had to make a VIDEO_TS directory or something.. ”

It seems my player can play any MPEG's burnt to disk (both CDR and CDRW which is a bonus). I first tried making a VCD with Easy CD Creator, but unfortunatly when i put the disc into the player is spun around for a while and said someting like "Disc unknown". I was a bit anoyed that my player couldnt play VCD's because i thought it was a basic function on most players.

When the player gave me the error it took me to a Windows Explorer type setup, with one pane showing me the folders on the disc, and the other showing whats in the folders.

I moved around the folders and found a DAT file which had a little VCD logo on it, so i highlighted this file and pressed play - sure enough Avril Lavigne popped up on the screen (thats what i had burned to the disc.

I then went back to the PC and copied the DAT file back to HDD and erased the disc. I then created two folders AUDIO and VIDEO. I popped about 6 MP3's in the audio folder and put the DAT file in the video folder along with the original MPEG version of the music video.

When i went to the player again it played the DAT file perfectly, then i went back to the menu and saw that the original MPEG file also has a VCD logo, so i played this - it was exactly the same video that played perfectly.

I now have about 6 music video's in MPEG format on the disc and i can play them all.

When i found these Dolby Digital trailers i saw that they were in VOB format. I guessed that if my player can play DVD's that have these files then surely they will also work on a CDRW. And once again i found that the Dolby video had the VCD logo and played beautifly (it gave me a fright because it was the first file on the disc that made all my speakers come to life.

Im quite chuffed with this machine. Its a cheapo Bush player that was on offer for £99 just after crimbo.

I thought that perhaps i can now get a TV card and record programmes straight to MPEG then watch them on the DVD player, as long as the files are no longer than 700MB that is.
Milky Joe
23-01-2003
ok cool i might try that later although i have a feeling it may not work Cheers for the info though.

I borrowed my physics teacher's surround fascinationg cd yesterday and copied it and thats pretty cool.

Its basically a test cd which does the white noises (although its only pro logic, made in 1995) to test all your speakers are hooked up correctly.

Then you get some pretty cool tracks such as being in the middle of a force 9 gale, an earthquake, a t-rex, and a western shootem up. Theres also some cheesy crazy msuic mixed especially for surround. Pretty cool though
TheCableGuy
23-01-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Exulus
...Then you get some pretty cool tracks such as being in the middle of a force 9 gale, an earthquake, a t-rex, and a western shootem up. Theres also some cheesy crazy msuic mixed especially for surround. Pretty cool though ”

Sounds good. My Dad saw me playing the Dolby Digital trailer and he was amazed by the sound. He told me that when he was a kid his experience of surround sound was stereo with the sound of a train going from the left channel to the righ channel. It shows how fast technology evolves doesnt it.
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