[Freeview Person]

Why are some of the big manufacturers taking out big adverts in newspapers debunking plamsa 'myths'?

They are saying that both LCD and Plasma should last equally as long a lifespan.

But it remains true that everytime I have spoken to sales staff in stores, they claim Plasma picture quality deteriorates over the years (typically 5), and also, you get 'screen burn' because of the unavoidable channel DOGs.

The only 'negative' I have so far heard about LCDs in comparison is that the blacks are not as black.

so who is telling the truth?

[Jarrak]

It's no surprise that the higher profit margin Plasma manufacturers are on the offensive with marketing spin (genuine or not) in an effort to educate the public to the benefits.
LCD has really swept the board in the low to mid range market thanks mostly to it's price and the R&D done by the big boys which is now filtering down from the "high end" LCD products. Simply put the comarable low volume Plasma manufacturing existed because the profit margins were there but if they can not maintain market share then they are going to fall by the wayside especially with SED on the horizon expected to offer much cheaper 50" type panels.

There are plenty of "issues" with LCD technology but are being over looked since LCD is not a premium product thanks to it's price and market saturation, there are positives to Plasma and LCD but the average customer is looking at a price point and Plasma doesn't get a look in.

The Plasma manufactuers are not lying but like all marketing you need to know all the facts and retailers will always talk up a product you are interested in by talking down another

[LordXenon]

It's the burn in issue that puts people off plasma's mainly.

Larger sized Plasma's are alot cheaper than similar or smaller sized LCD's.

You could get a Panasonic 42" Plasma for under £2000.

[bronson]

You can get a 42" panasonic plasma for £999 which is far superior in picture quality to 42" lcds.

[mossy2103]

Regarding burn-in - from a number of forums posts on DS and AVForums, burn-in is only a temporary thing anyway, and it disappears if you then display a changing image.

[Clem]

Let's not forget LCD's two big issues - poor black levels and motion smear. I've seen both these issues, especially the motion smear, on the latest Sony W & X series LCD panels, but I don't see it on my plasma.

Plasma screen burn is certainly an issue, but right now I'm being drawn to RP technology. The latest Sony 55 and 70-inch models look ready good, and get round the LCD and plasma issues, assuming that you have space for such kit .....


Clem

[bobcar]

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Originally Posted by Clem

but right now I'm being drawn to RP technology. The latest Sony 55 and 70-inch models look ready good, and get round the LCD and plasma issues, assuming that you have space for such kit .....


Clem

RP looks pretty good especially for the price. Everything has a drawback though and for RP it's having to regularly replace the (expensive) bulbs, this can make them more expensive than panels in the long term.

[Dino]

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Originally Posted by mossy2103

Regarding burn-in - from a number of forums posts on DS and AVForums, burn-in is only a temporary thing anyway, and it disappears if you then display a changing image.

Depends how bad the burn in is. It can quite quickly become irreversible. The plasma manufacturers are doing this because LCD may not give you a better picture quality but as a general consumer product is the safer option. With LCD's and CRT's you can be quite careless, however you have to be that little bit more careful with a Plasma.

I work in digital advertising and we use a variety of screens, mostly plasma. They look great, I must admit, but everyone that works in our company including myself have and / or will be getting LCD's.

[bobcar]

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[Insaneperson]

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Originally Posted by Jarrak

It's no surprise that the higher profit margin Plasma manufacturers are on the offensive with marketing spin (genuine or not) in an effort to educate the public to the benefits.
LCD has really swept the board in the low to mid range market thanks mostly to it's price and the R&D done by the big boys which is now filtering down from the "high end" LCD products. Simply put the comarable low volume Plasma manufacturing existed because the profit margins were there but if they can not maintain market share then they are going to fall by the wayside especially with SED on the horizon expected to offer much cheaper 50" type panels.

There are plenty of "issues" with LCD technology but are being over looked since LCD is not a premium product thanks to it's price and market saturation, there are positives to Plasma and LCD but the average customer is looking at a price point and Plasma doesn't get a look in.

The Plasma manufactuers are not lying but like all marketing you need to know all the facts and retailers will always talk up a product you are interested in by talking down another

I have been hearing about SED for ages, when will it be arriving then?

[Jarrak]

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Originally Posted by Insaneperson

I have been hearing about SED for ages, when will it be arriving then?

Toshiba and Canon had versions running at a consumer show earlier this year, it was a tightly controlled demo so hard to judge exactly how the display works in real world enviroments but the reports were very favourable.

The first models are expected to ship to Japan and the US late 2007 and then only in the larger more profitable sizes. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the EU didn't see any until a second generation was rolled out in 2008.
Launch dates can not really be relied on though until Tosh or Canon make a public statement along with pricing