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Old 08-12-2006, 12:19
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Are they friends or enemies?

Ian has a good reason to dislike Pat as much as Big Mo does, because:

(1) she was married to his father Pete (brother of Pauline)
but then cheated on him with Pete's brother Kenny;

(2) her first son David is Ian's half-brother,
but her second son Simon (a.k.a. Wicksy) had an affair with Ian's wife Cindy
and he is the natural father of Steven Beale;

(3) she took sides with Laura after Ian threw her out into the street,
thinking Laura was carrying Garry's child.

Similarly, Pat was appalled by Ian's treatment of Laura before and after she became pregnant,
and when Ian offered Pat work with his business,
she responded 'Why would I want to work for a slime-ball like you?'

But on the other hand, Pat looked after Steven when he found out Ian wasn't his real father,
and comforted Ian when Kathy died, describing her as 'a close friend'.

Then again, weren't Pat and Kathy enemies, at first, and how did THEY become friends?

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Old 08-12-2006, 13:57
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Both her sons sh*gged his wife!

The main reason Pat hung around for so long was because of her grandson, Steven.

Originally Angie and Kaff were close mates. When Angie left Kaff needed a new buddy. I seem to remember an episode where the pair of them got drunk and had to change a fuse in Pat's house.
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Old 08-12-2006, 15:58
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Originally Posted by Sinbazro_05
Both her sons shagged his wife!
OMG, that means one of Cindy's other 'men' was Ian's half-brother David -
so much for Ian's hatred of any man with the name Wicks!

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Old 08-12-2006, 16:10
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I think Pat and Ian are quite close friends as far as it goes. There is a lot of history there and Pat has been supportive to Ian with the kids prob because one of his kids, his step-spn Steven is Pat's grandson. Yes, there have been dodgy moments/circumstances, but their relatinship has a sort of family history flavour to it.
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Old 08-12-2006, 16:44
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shes been a babysitter for the kids
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Old 08-12-2006, 18:55
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I think Angie and Pat were good friends too, weren't they. I seem to recall Angie going to Pat for advice constantly.
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:15
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If David was Pete Beale's son, why did he use the surname Wicks??? Also, whilst we're on family questions, who was Donna Ludlow, she's in the Beale family tree, looks like Ian's sister. Anyone have any answers???? Thanks.
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:44
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Originally Posted by conmarcas3
If David was Pete Beale's son, why did he use the surname Wicks???
I think Brian may have adopted David, either way Brian brought David up and so he thought of him as his real dad.

Originally Posted by conmarcas3
Also, whilst we're on family questions, who was Donna Ludlow, she's in the Beale family tree, looks like Ian's sister. Anyone have any answers???? Thanks.
When Kathy was 14, she was raped. Donna was the result and she was given up for adoption.

She returned to Kathy's life in 1987 but she spiralled out of control when she got hooked on drugs. She later committed suicide in the living room of number 25.
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:51
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Thanks for the info
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Old 09-12-2006, 03:18
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Yes, I remember poor old Donna... she was a bit of a tragic character. Always thought she deserved a bit of a break, but Kathy's reaction to her was really well characterised and thought-provoking. You wouldn't get that type of depth now.
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Old 09-12-2006, 18:11
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Originally Posted by Pete Callan
I think Brian may have adopted David, either way Brian brought David up and so he thought of him as his real dad.


When Kathy was 14, she was raped. Donna was the result and she was given up for adoption.

She returned to Kathy's life in 1987 but she spiralled out of control when she got hooked on drugs. She later committed suicide in the living room of number 25.
She was a compulsive liar when she turned up. I think Ian even fancied her a little bit, before the truth came out.

Did she top herself? I thought it was just an OD, npot deliberate though.
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Old 09-12-2006, 18:39
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Originally Posted by julieannu
She was a compulsive liar when she turned up. I think Ian even fancied her a little bit, before the truth came out.

Did she top herself? I thought it was just an OD, npot deliberate though.
I always assumed it was suicide. I was glad aswell, couldn't have cared less about her to be honest.
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Old 09-12-2006, 19:13
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Because Pat cheated on Pete with his brother Kenny,
she and Kathy (Pete's second wife) were originally enemies, weren't they?
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