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Emma "Half Naked" On Cover Of The STAR- Headline: Why She Needs YOU Tonight
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Originally Posted by moonglow:
“I can't believe the personal attacks on Emma all coming from you. I was never a big fan of hers but I will definitely be voting for her tonight, only because of all your messages I have been reading. What you don't realise is that by being really personal towards her has made me, and probably many others, want to vote for her.
And going on about this soft porn picture of her! Don't be so ridiculous. You can't see anything, just a bare back. The female professional dancers show far less every Saturday night. You don't call them porn stars.
I don't know what it is you hate so much about Emma, maybe jealousy I guess, but I hate personal attacks to the extreme that you have been doing and I think you should be ashamed of all the nasty comments you've said. If you're like this about Emma then you're obviously very bitchy about other people, including probably your friends.
So, I'm a Lilia fan, but I will be voting for Emma and Darren tonight, thanks to you lot.”
“I can't believe the personal attacks on Emma all coming from you. I was never a big fan of hers but I will definitely be voting for her tonight, only because of all your messages I have been reading. What you don't realise is that by being really personal towards her has made me, and probably many others, want to vote for her.
And going on about this soft porn picture of her! Don't be so ridiculous. You can't see anything, just a bare back. The female professional dancers show far less every Saturday night. You don't call them porn stars.
I don't know what it is you hate so much about Emma, maybe jealousy I guess, but I hate personal attacks to the extreme that you have been doing and I think you should be ashamed of all the nasty comments you've said. If you're like this about Emma then you're obviously very bitchy about other people, including probably your friends.
So, I'm a Lilia fan, but I will be voting for Emma and Darren tonight, thanks to you lot.”
go ahead and vote for her.. no offence but no-one cares bloody hell its a forum we all have opinions and we are going to share them just like you can share your opinion on how you think people are overreacting.. we can share our opinions on emma they may be personal.. tought crap
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“ The thought of Louisa doing the same is almost incestuous!
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“ The thought of Louisa doing the same is almost incestuous!
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Incestuous? How?
Her thighs seem to have lost inches and inches compared to how she looked in that dreadful paso costume last Saturday. Looked like an end of the pier magicians assistant. If she is suffering such bad nerves, suffering stress and over worked plugging her CD then maybe it would be a kindness not to vote for her and the pressure is off so she has more time for other things
*Please forgive any typos, I've broken my reading glasses and the key board is just a blur*
*Please forgive any typos, I've broken my reading glasses and the key board is just a blur*
Originally Posted by Chiaroscuro:
“Incestuous? How?”
“Incestuous? How?”
I wasn't being clear, and I think it was a bad word choice. To me, Louisa is like a little sister I never had, so if papers run provocative pictures of that nature, it would be very bad and I would be even more disgusted.
Anyway, I notice a double standard here, it seems that Mark's fans would lap it all up if it were a half-naked picture of him on the cover of the tabloid...
I've said it before. The vast majority of people on this forum who object to Emma don't actually object to her per se. They object to what they perceive is the vast amount of publicity surrounding her in proportion to the others (and much of this is not her fault but if this is her PR company I think she should fire them! They're doing her absolutely no favours!) and also what they see as overmarking (not getting into that). Their axe is with the judges, the BBC and the media. As is mine but in a different way because it's doing her no favours and I actually like Emma and would like to see her progress into the semis at least (doubt very much if that's going to happen now).
Unfortunately there are the minority who seem to think it's okay to be personal (about her personality, how genuine she is, the way she looks et al). Would those same people, hiding behind the anonymity of forum names as they can on here speak to her like that in public? Are they really so keen on being hurtful to someone whose only crime is to appear in a dance show (and be a singer from an ex-famous pop group, however bad or good they were)? If so, then I despair of this society. (But then I despaired of society a long time ago. I much prefer animals).
Criticising the dancing is fair enough - after all, that's what this forum (and others) are for but the personal attacks are a bit much (not that it's limited to this forum or even DS. Since the advent of the internet it seems it's fine to launch deeply personal attacks on people whom you don't know and with whom, if you were face to face, you wouldn't say such things - unless of course there was a gang of people all of the same mind and that kind of thing has been known to get out of hand and turn to violence
It seems that 'self-restraint' is a forgotten entity where some people are concerned. Freedom of speech is incredibly important (and I would defend to the death someone's right to say whatever they like), but where has tempering what one says in line with morals and manners gone? In fact, what has happened to manners and morals?
I think that's why I prefer animals!
It doesn't help when a small minority of Emma's fans then make blanket statements about others on this forum either! Maybe they haven't bothered to read the whole thread but have just digested those comments aimed at Emma specifically and then tarred everyone with the same brush (wow, I love a good cliche
).
And it also doesn't help Emma's cause when her fans (again a tiny minority of them) feel the need to attack other celebs or pros in defence. That just makes things ten times worse. Again, those are personal attacks which are completely unwarranted and shouldn't be tolerated.
To be honest, some of the vicious attacks on this forum on both Emma and others (although there have been far more directed toward Emma by that small minority than against Mark, Matt, Louisa and their partners), have really turned me off SCD this year. I shall be quite glad when it's over.
That can be partly attributed to the way SCD has gone about things this time and I agree that they should take a good, long look at the direction they've taken it and change it back to how it used to be next year. All the joy has been taken out of it for me (and for a lot of others, I would guess, whoever they are fans of). The constant backbiting on here and the heavy inclusion of the media (who really don't know the meaning of self-restraint but that's partly society's fault as if we didn't buy the newspapers publishing such crap then they wouldn't print it) not to mention the overkill of people publicising their albums/DVD/s etc etc etc on SCDITT has ruined the show.
I understand that the BBC are in a ratings war with ITV and The X-Factor, but lowering themselves to the lowest common denominator is not the way to go about it. Although they seem to think it is.
As I said, the vast majority of people on this forum are reasonable, polite people who are simply expressing their own frustration about the direction things have taken this year and unfortunately, Emma's treatment seems to be at the core of it; however, they're not attacking Emma herself and actually may feel a little sorry for her. And unfortunately, the tiny minority who do seem to feel it necessary to attack her personal attributes don't seem to understand the concept of plain, ordinary, common manners but defend their actions with the obligatory 'I can say what I want; it's a free forum'. I have no doubt that there'll be several messages to that effect after this (and therefore I rest my case, m'lud!)
Unfortunately there are the minority who seem to think it's okay to be personal (about her personality, how genuine she is, the way she looks et al). Would those same people, hiding behind the anonymity of forum names as they can on here speak to her like that in public? Are they really so keen on being hurtful to someone whose only crime is to appear in a dance show (and be a singer from an ex-famous pop group, however bad or good they were)? If so, then I despair of this society. (But then I despaired of society a long time ago. I much prefer animals).
Criticising the dancing is fair enough - after all, that's what this forum (and others) are for but the personal attacks are a bit much (not that it's limited to this forum or even DS. Since the advent of the internet it seems it's fine to launch deeply personal attacks on people whom you don't know and with whom, if you were face to face, you wouldn't say such things - unless of course there was a gang of people all of the same mind and that kind of thing has been known to get out of hand and turn to violence
It seems that 'self-restraint' is a forgotten entity where some people are concerned. Freedom of speech is incredibly important (and I would defend to the death someone's right to say whatever they like), but where has tempering what one says in line with morals and manners gone? In fact, what has happened to manners and morals?
I think that's why I prefer animals!
It doesn't help when a small minority of Emma's fans then make blanket statements about others on this forum either! Maybe they haven't bothered to read the whole thread but have just digested those comments aimed at Emma specifically and then tarred everyone with the same brush (wow, I love a good cliche
). And it also doesn't help Emma's cause when her fans (again a tiny minority of them) feel the need to attack other celebs or pros in defence. That just makes things ten times worse. Again, those are personal attacks which are completely unwarranted and shouldn't be tolerated.
To be honest, some of the vicious attacks on this forum on both Emma and others (although there have been far more directed toward Emma by that small minority than against Mark, Matt, Louisa and their partners), have really turned me off SCD this year. I shall be quite glad when it's over.
That can be partly attributed to the way SCD has gone about things this time and I agree that they should take a good, long look at the direction they've taken it and change it back to how it used to be next year. All the joy has been taken out of it for me (and for a lot of others, I would guess, whoever they are fans of). The constant backbiting on here and the heavy inclusion of the media (who really don't know the meaning of self-restraint but that's partly society's fault as if we didn't buy the newspapers publishing such crap then they wouldn't print it) not to mention the overkill of people publicising their albums/DVD/s etc etc etc on SCDITT has ruined the show.
I understand that the BBC are in a ratings war with ITV and The X-Factor, but lowering themselves to the lowest common denominator is not the way to go about it. Although they seem to think it is.
As I said, the vast majority of people on this forum are reasonable, polite people who are simply expressing their own frustration about the direction things have taken this year and unfortunately, Emma's treatment seems to be at the core of it; however, they're not attacking Emma herself and actually may feel a little sorry for her. And unfortunately, the tiny minority who do seem to feel it necessary to attack her personal attributes don't seem to understand the concept of plain, ordinary, common manners but defend their actions with the obligatory 'I can say what I want; it's a free forum'. I have no doubt that there'll be several messages to that effect after this (and therefore I rest my case, m'lud!)
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I wasn't being clear, and I think it was a bad word choice. To me, Louisa is like a little sister I never had, so if papers run provocative pictures of that nature, it would be very bad and I would be even more disgusted.
Anyway, I notice a double standard here, it seems that Mark's fans would lap it all up if it were a half-naked picture of him on the cover of the tabloid...”
“I wasn't being clear, and I think it was a bad word choice. To me, Louisa is like a little sister I never had, so if papers run provocative pictures of that nature, it would be very bad and I would be even more disgusted.
Anyway, I notice a double standard here, it seems that Mark's fans would lap it all up if it were a half-naked picture of him on the cover of the tabloid...
”
I like Mark but I won't call myself an out and out fan of his BUT I wouldn't mind seeing him in his "Birthday" suit
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Anyway, I notice a double standard here, it seems that Mark's fans would lap it all up if it were a half-naked picture of him on the cover of the tabloid...”
“Anyway, I notice a double standard here, it seems that Mark's fans would lap it all up if it were a half-naked picture of him on the cover of the tabloid...
”
'Scuse me but how is that a double standard since whatever his fans might wish for he wouldn't pose half-naked (unless his cricket side had just won promotion and naturally that's different and spontaneous).
Besides, I'm a little short-sighted, but even I know there's a bit of a difference between a topless man and a topless woman, but it's all irrelevent because Mark didn't pose like that anyhow.
Obviously I'd take all that back if his bottom half was the half naked bit but to be honest I'd be well past caring , particularly being short-sighted, (as I might have mentioned) I would naturally have had to have taken a closer look.
Do I make any sense my specs just steamed up?
Last edited by who me? : 09-12-2006 at 15:44
Originally Posted by pretty:
“Is she desperately trying to drum up support so she stays in tonight
http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...3515-7,00.html”
“Is she desperately trying to drum up support so she stays in tonight
http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_...3515-7,00.html”
Are we absolutely certain that it's not an oldish shot of Emma?
once again the attacks on Emma are personal and nasty. I really cant understand why some of you on here feel the need to constantly attack her, the girl has done nothing wrong. i also cant understand how some of you think you know more about dancing then the judges and the professional dancers and this gives you the right to verbally abuse these dancers as you please. Typical bullies, hid behind the computer, I wonder how vocal would you be if you came face to face with either Emma or Darren. Some of you on here give these forums a bad name.
Originally Posted by gargleroadside:
“OMG! Myleen has got 2 maggots in her ear! Was there a story about Emma? I missed it. ”
“OMG! Myleen has got 2 maggots in her ear!
Was there a story about Emma? I missed it. ”
The Myleen story is on Digital Spy now: Myleene still plagued by jungle maggots
They've also got the Emma 'story': Bunton struggles to cope with rejection
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“I wasn't being clear, and I think it was a bad word choice. To me, Louisa is like a little sister I never had, so if papers run provocative pictures of that nature, it would be very bad and I would be even more disgusted.”
“I wasn't being clear, and I think it was a bad word choice. To me, Louisa is like a little sister I never had, so if papers run provocative pictures of that nature, it would be very bad and I would be even more disgusted.”
Thanks, I see what you mean now. I think the trouble is Emma's getting blamed for this story as if she'd gone to the paper and demanded it was put in there whereas it's quite possible she had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Originally Posted by dufusmaximus:
“Are we absolutely certain that it's not an oldish shot of Emma?”
“Are we absolutely certain that it's not an oldish shot of Emma?”
I think it probably is - the tabloids always scratch bits and pieces together to make a new story. I doubt, if she'd have had anything to do with it, that she'd have allowed them to use the headline 'Cry Baby'. It's just an excuse to put two reality show 'babes' on the front.
That's tabloids for you, eh, 'in association with the Sun'?
Originally Posted by xadie:
“I think it probably is - the tabloids always scratch bits and pieces together to make a new story. I doubt, if she'd have had anything to do with it, that she'd have allowed them to use the headline 'Cry Baby'. It's just an excuse to put two reality show 'babes' on the front.
That's tabloids for you, eh, 'in association with the Sun'?”
“I think it probably is - the tabloids always scratch bits and pieces together to make a new story. I doubt, if she'd have had anything to do with it, that she'd have allowed them to use the headline 'Cry Baby'. It's just an excuse to put two reality show 'babes' on the front.
That's tabloids for you, eh, 'in association with the Sun'?”
Absolutely. I'm not an Emma fan but some forum members have really got it in for her and perhaps would do well to understand how the media works.
I do not want Emma to win but to be fair she can't do anything right alot of the time. This is the 'Star'. There is a very good chance she does not even know about this interview and that the photo is an old one.
Saying her legs are chubbier than that picture, and the like is all a bit silly.
No one knows for sure she has done this to gain votes. I don't buy into it.
More annoying is the SCD websites advert which has left off Mark and Karen but has pictures of all the other 3 couples. Now that is odd as the beeb run the show and it is their website. And is pretty bad to be honest.I'm sure fans of any of the contestants who had been left off would feel the same.
But Emma doing a scantily clad shoot today for votes in a non related tabloid? I doubt it very much.
Saying her legs are chubbier than that picture, and the like is all a bit silly.
No one knows for sure she has done this to gain votes. I don't buy into it.
More annoying is the SCD websites advert which has left off Mark and Karen but has pictures of all the other 3 couples. Now that is odd as the beeb run the show and it is their website. And is pretty bad to be honest.
I'm sure fans of any of the contestants who had been left off would feel the same.But Emma doing a scantily clad shoot today for votes in a non related tabloid? I doubt it very much.
Originally Posted by blossom123:
“ i also cant understand how some of you think you know more about dancing then the judges and the professional dancers and this gives you the right to verbally abuse these dancers as you please.”
“ i also cant understand how some of you think you know more about dancing then the judges and the professional dancers and this gives you the right to verbally abuse these dancers as you please.”
A lot of us on here have done a considerable amount of ballroom dancing - unlike 3 of the judges on the panel - unlike them we have a fair idea of how good or bad the celebs actually are - and how much their pro partner is covering up or distracting us from their mistakes.
Originally Posted by blossom123:
“ I wonder how vocal would you be if you came face to face with either Emma or Darren. Some of you on here give these forums a bad name.”
“ I wonder how vocal would you be if you came face to face with either Emma or Darren. Some of you on here give these forums a bad name.”
Personally I would LOVE to ask Emma & Darren if they REALLY think their performances were worthy of the marks they were handed by the judges (specifically the foxtrot and cha cha), and whether they honestly think that they are (on the basis of said marks) the best couple in the whole competition. I and a lot of other FMs would be very interested to hear the response.
I've never watched the programme, I only came in here because I saw the title - Emma is a hottie, perfect body, perfect face, she's getting my vote!
Originally Posted by wernroe:
“I've never watched the programme, I only came in here because I saw the title - Emma is a hottie, perfect body, perfect face, she's getting my vote!”
“I've never watched the programme, I only came in here because I saw the title - Emma is a hottie, perfect body, perfect face, she's getting my vote!”
So, is this Emma bashing in a perverted sense?
Originally Posted by gritty:
“Jenni1
My sentiments exactly. I've posted a few times criticising this series and each time I thought about posting because my only motivation is that we see SCD next year and beyond.
BBC - if ever you want a real panel, can I recommend Jenni1 is invited.”
“Jenni1
My sentiments exactly. I've posted a few times criticising this series and each time I thought about posting because my only motivation is that we see SCD next year and beyond.
BBC - if ever you want a real panel, can I recommend Jenni1 is invited.”
Awwww! That is very sweet of you 'Gritty' Thank you !
I'm afraid I'm not a trained expert in dance - but I am an avid viewer and fan of SCD from Day 1, Series 1 and love it! It really is one of the BEST shows on TV today! and I just think - the dancing & the dancers speak for its self!! together with the LIVE orchestra and LIVE singing - It's a Gem of a show!
It is a show for all concerened to be proud of - just 'iron' out the 'issues' - and it'll be grand.
Keeeeeep Dancing!
I would feel sorry for Emma if this story was posted in The Star without her input. But I am fed up with people saying that it is Emma bashing/hating to object to this story and for not voting for her.
Emma is my third favourite left. But I don't hate the person fourth in my list either.
Emma is my third favourite left. But I don't hate the person fourth in my list either.
no one here is a bully hiding behind the computer jeez some of you behave like we slag of emma because we have issues with her despite the fact that everyone says it again and again that its because many of us dont think she is as amazing as she is made out to be second of all im sure if emma had a problem with the picture when she saw the paper today she would have said something and third of all if i saw emma or darren in the street id be happy to speak to them and give them my opinion anyone calling us bullies needs to get a life.. i think its u who is way to sensitive.. if emma dances well 2nyte i would be happy to vote for her.. im backing mark and karen but the week louisa did the tango i threw a vote her way same with matt week before last
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“A lot of us on here have done a considerable amount of ballroom dancing - unlike 3 of the judges on the panel - unlike them we have a fair idea of how good or bad the celebs actually are - and how much their pro partner is covering up or distracting us from their mistakes.
Personally I would LOVE to ask Emma & Darren if they REALLY think their performances were worthy of the marks they were handed by the judges (specifically the foxtrot and cha cha), and whether they honestly think that they are (on the basis of said marks) the best couple in the whole competition. I and a lot of other FMs would be very interested to hear the response.”
“A lot of us on here have done a considerable amount of ballroom dancing - unlike 3 of the judges on the panel - unlike them we have a fair idea of how good or bad the celebs actually are - and how much their pro partner is covering up or distracting us from their mistakes.
Personally I would LOVE to ask Emma & Darren if they REALLY think their performances were worthy of the marks they were handed by the judges (specifically the foxtrot and cha cha), and whether they honestly think that they are (on the basis of said marks) the best couple in the whole competition. I and a lot of other FMs would be very interested to hear the response.”
Yep agree with both...
I haven't been doing ballroom long but I hope by this stage I know when I see bad footwork...
And I would be in the front of the line if I had a chance to talk to them... I don't hide behind my username... My name is Anna my nickname and the name most people know me as is Kaos... I'll tell her exactly what I think if I got the chance, which is as good as she might be she's overmarked, lovely person and all but sometimes comes over in the wrong light...
I've tried not to put what I think of baby spice and treat her as if she was a totally different person, doesn't mean I like her any more...
As for being jealous, being in a band for so long YES I am a bit jealous... What my band would give to get millions for what the Spice Girls did... We don't get much and we do MORE then them, its an unfair world ain't it
... What I would give to be able to mime, not to write my own music and have someone else play guitar for me... The joys of being in a girl band...
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“So, is this Emma bashing in a perverted sense?”
“So, is this Emma bashing in a perverted sense?
”
Well that's given a new (and disturbing... euw) twist to the phrase "Emma bashing"
Originally Posted by TallyHo77:
“Well that's given a new (and disturbing... euw) twist to the phrase "Emma bashing"”
“Well that's given a new (and disturbing... euw) twist to the phrase "Emma bashing"”
Nevermind. Everything is so TWISTED anyway nowadays...
I think this is fast becoming a non news. Folks, let this thread slide. It's getting boring.
I think it's a recent pic., but it's probably a publicity shot that her agency has given to the Star, maybe on condition that it's on the front cover. It's not as if she posed for them in the strictest sense.
To add to the chorus, I don't hate her either - and I don't mind anyone voting for her that likes! I just don't like being exhorted to do so by all and sundry in the media, as I have a different opinion of her performances, finding them quite plastic and joyless.
To add to the chorus, I don't hate her either - and I don't mind anyone voting for her that likes! I just don't like being exhorted to do so by all and sundry in the media, as I have a different opinion of her performances, finding them quite plastic and joyless.
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