We watched the review last night and both agreed - in Emmas' tango we don't think she actually "danced" at all in the true sense of the word - it looked like Darren was dragging her around the floor and pushing her into position, please Emma fans DO NOT pick on me for my comments it is purely mine and the OHs' opinion
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THought Mark's Jive was well undermatked on Sat and confirmed last night. It was definitely one of the best Jives in the competition this year - even with the mistakes!

Had it come off it WOULD have been up there with Jill's - Mark and Karen to use someone else's favourite expression "really gave it their all!" I'd love to have seen the rehearsal where it did go right...

Emma - still thought her tango was good - but the rumba was bad bad bad and definitely no better (IMHO it was worse) than Louisa's - but the judges had to get her to the top of the leaderboard.

Louisa - not as bad as the judges marks would have us believe - object to Craig telling us her position in last 2 was OUR fault - who put her at the bottom of the leaderboard - us or the judges??

Matt - most consistent performance of the night - given the "j" he's had from the dire Cha Cha - well deserved to go through as does Mark

Hard to say who should have gone between Emma and Louisa - on performance in the dance off Emma was better but Louisa has been better throughout the competion.......

Given the fact that the men have started dancing from scratch - they BOTH fully deserved to get through to the final - Emma and Louisa had a big head start with their previous training at stage school - and yes I KNOW they didn't do ballroom there - but they did learn the important basics like hands, feet and posture which helped a lot!

Its only a shame that Emma didn't build on that foundation as much as she could have.....

I became even more annoyed about the 5 from Craig for Mark's jive. i know there were mistakes - but I thought it was a great performance. A 7 would have been fairer.

Apart from that my opinions didn't change.

I agree with CaroUk- I thought the jive was woefully undermarked by CRH- he always really marks Mark down if he doesn't like the dances- and yes it wasn't perfect but it had get and go and Performance with a capital P! Emmas rooooombar was over marked too to ensure top spot but I thought her Tango marks were fair.

Louisa was slightly underpar but her roommmbar was the best of the too and was overmarked and I think I am clearly the only person inthe world who thought Matt's 'party dance' was flat and boring and not much of a party! hey Ho!

No you are not, I also thought Matt's samba was really quite boring. I was so shocked when the judges praised it.

yeh I thought 5 was a daft Mark but would do u expect from Craig

other than thought still thought Louisa did a better Rhooomba than she was given credit for

Ah but they didn't want him bottom and they underscored his VW!!

Liked the jive even more!

Ah, the pieces start to come together

I liked the jive even more on a second viewing.

Me too ~ I am a Mark & Karen fan, but I wish she would shut up when they're getting their comments. She's not doing Mark any favours by repeatedly disagreeing. Zip it, lady!
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I have enjoyed Karen in both the series she has been in but she does seem to struggle with keeping it under control at the judging bit. I couldn't look on Saturday when she started as I felt the votes slipping away.
Mind you it did spur me on to put more money in the CIN bank account.
My poor husband when he sees the phone bill !!!!

I'm terribly disappointed to see Vincent and Louisa go, though I do think they were weak this week, and I also think Emma and Darren were the best (Digital Spy forum member agrees with judges - shock!).
Up until now Karen and Mark have been my second faves, and I expected to be firmly rooting for them now L&V have gone, but I can't stand Karen's insistence on having her two minutes to 'big up' her partner while the judges make their comments. I didn't hear Vincent saying 'Louisa has been lame all week and was advised against competing by her doctor', and I didn't hear Darren or Lilia droning on about how great their partners are, either. I'm predisposed to like Mark for his sheer joie de vivre when he gets it right - but Karen really puts me off.

Liked the Jive even more.

That is what is called 'being led'. A man must 'drag' and put the woman into position. The womans job is to follow those leads.

Was Emmas footwork correct as she being moved around the floor? If 'yes' then she was dancing.

If you mean by Emma not truly dancing that she was not moving around the floor and doing the moves herself you have a poor understanding of what 'to dance' means.

A woman is not dancing if she is 'anticipating' the moves and moving before the male leads her into the moves.

The worst type of 'dance' is where the woman just goes through the moves as if the partner was not there.

This tends to happen on SCD at the start with male celebs: the female pro partners have to do more work.

Towards the end of the series a male celeb can only be said to be truly dancing if he is seen to be leading the woman i.e. moving her around the dancefloor and into the correct positions. The role of the woman is to react with the correct footwork for those moves(that is not as difficult as it seems as the woman will know the library of moves and will be able to apply the correct footwork almost without thinking to the move the man puts her into).

Therefore, if you see a woman in a hold who looks to be dancing on her own and anticipating moves she is not dancing.

If you see a woman with good tension and *following* the mans lead she is dancing.

Dancing is about the man CONTROLLING the woman and the woman doing exactly what the man wants her to.

And believe me women moan like mad if you do not lead properly and hate having to anticipate and go into moves themselves as that is not dancing for them.

Oh so would I!

I actually find your post quite condescending - do pardon me for not being an "EXPERT" as you so obviously are. I was voicing MY opinions and YES I do know "how to dance" and am actually V intelligent so find your comments as highlighted quite rude
You must be an Emma fan -who despite my stating it was "just my opinion" seems to fancy having a go at me for my opinion

I am no one's fan and that comment pretty much shows the level at which you post on this site.

Presumably, the comment about Emma being dragged around the floor and your 'Emma fan' comment means you have something against Emma and possibly I nailed it with my reply.

Actually i agree , it was ok and a good effort , it wasn't a party dance at all . Very pedestrian compared to others .

I thought Matt's samba was too slow, personally

I couldn't stand Mark's jive - there were just too many mistakes and he wasn't on the balls of his feet. I also still feel his posture's funny in the ballroom

I liked L&Vs american smooth - the rumba wasn't fantastic but it wasn't a 7 either

I actually really liked Emma's tango, but hated the rumba and no way was it a 34

I have absolutely nothing against Emma - why would I, I don't know her - what I do object to is the constant praise of her (and for that matter Louisa) despite faults when the likes of Carol etc get monstered by the judges. I appreciate that the celebs know what they are in for when they sign up - but the judges do get a bit OTT on some and blindly ignore faults of others.
I feel you have got a little personal towards me (ie my - in your opinion - lack of dance knowledge etc). I understood forums to be a place where you could put your opinion and not be monstered for that. Maybe I don't have the obvious dancing skills you perport to have - but even if I did I wouldn't be quite so scathing to another poster.
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