can anyone explain why emma danced first in the dance off? on the main show louisa danced second & emma fourth. so i expected louisa to dance first in the dance off. as thats what they did on dancing on ice (itv) i am not saying it's fixed just an observation.

It's a good question, I'd like to know too.

Obviously the Panel of Judges voted for who to save in the Skate Off on DOI, which seems to be the only solution, as having a phone vote for a Dance Off was a total disaster re the phone lines.

Oh, and before anyone starts moaning about this thread and says *get over it*, we are getting over it, and moving on, by asking a question or saying when I tried to vote for Louisa in the Dance Off the phoneline was permanently blocked, it doesn't mean I'm saying it was fixed. I've read one or two nasty comments criticising me for starting that thread, so don't bother reading this one if you're going to moan.

I wonder if it was because Vincent had just performed again in the Argentine Tango.

As there was a big gap between shows and no one would be breathless there was no reason for either to go first. They could have decided to reverse the order, go randomly, go alphabetically or do the same again.The shock of being told might be greater for t the one going on first but you wouldn't think its a big factor.

We don't know if anyone voted in the second show or what the gap was in whose favour after the first so we don't even know if the sing off mattered. It shouldn't make a difference who goes last unless there is no time to vote for the second performer if you wait for them to finish. If you decide when you have heard both you need time at the end too. Going first might give your voters more time but it might also lose you votes as people remember the last peformance.

It was all a bit naff - they asked the judges at the end just to tell you the lines had closed as soon as the last one had commented which rather defeated the point of asking them.

Its a genuine issue. it happened in the 'Maria show with Abi - on next to last- 20 minutes of jammed lines. the BBC sent me a reply saying the lines would freeze if they recieved too many calls so i sent one back pointing out that this meant she could well have been first not last in the vote because her line was the one that gave up - got no second reply.

We don't know what the gap was though at the end of show one or whether Emma's line had the same problem or even if its a big or small, local or national problem. It just makes everything less certain than it should be if they don't provide the number of lines they need and a long enough time for people to call.

Could it be to allow recovery time for Vincent...who had just done an Argentine Tango?....just a thought

I can't remember the order of last night...

If it was the Sugababes THEN the A.Tango, then it was probably to allow time for Vincent. If it was the other way around then that's not really a valid reason.

Apparently Emma's line did have the same problem. I wasn't voting for Emma, I didn't vote at all in the dance off (I save all my phone credit for Mark) but my brother did and he had real difficulty getting through to vote for Emma.

I am sorry Louisa has gone, she was a high energy bundle of fun - but not my favourite.

This is quite a possibility

No they were both dressed and ready to dance at the same time- the only reason assumed in our house was that it gave the floating voters less time to vote for Louisa- sorry but I can't honestly see why else they changed the order unless there was an unseen coin flip somewhere!

Someone's always got to go first, which will give them a small advantage but cannot be avoided. What could have been avoided was the gap between the two dances when Tess went to talk to family members in the audience; they should have danced back to back. It would also have made more sense for the dance off to have been at the start of the reults show instead of over half way through, in order to give people more time to vote & to get a more accurate result.

Does anybody know teh definitive answer to this question?

only the bbc have that. & why did they have any of the dancers that could be involved in the dance off ,dancing before it. ie vincent.
having read some of the answers i think that maybe louisa was actually bottom when the lines were frozen. so she had to go second.
please note i don't have any favourites, i just lovethe show thank you for making my first post on here painless

I thought Louisa and Vincent would have danced first, as they had done so in the main competition earlier in the evening.

I can only think that it was because Vincent had done the AT beforehand, although both couples looked ready to dance at the same time.

Maybe it was alphabetical ??

I've ranted on before about BBC cock-up theory so apols for the repetition but Saturday night had more holes than a certain Swiss cheese.

BBC had promised a twist - they tried to get the couples to agree the reintroduction of a couple - rebellion in the ranks so back to the drawing board and the untwisty twist solution. I was convinced nobody would go on Saturday so I was wrong (again!) but the whole dance off was totally unconvincing.

Emma on first? Louisa getting lower public support than Emma? Was the public vote tally for the whole of the previous week, just for the Saturday night, or just for the dance off segment itself? I think the BBC owe the GBP an explanation as it is a public organisation and we are spending money voting.

Also has the BBC actually announced it's a two couple final? I know it has to be but what's happened with all the "three couples in the final" malarkey?

*applauds*

The phone in was a disaster despite ringing continuously I nor anyone I know could get through to vote for Louisa. How can you justify giving a result on such a shambles, these people have put in weeks of hard work and deserve a fair and open competition. Maybe the organisers got the result they wanted and are more than happy to leave it at that

It was a bit of a shambles. I hope they don't do it again.

Has anyone though that they dance first because they scored highest with the judges

I was under the impression (from what len said on ITT) that louisa was upset when she found out she was in the bottom two, so maybe it was decided that emma go first so lousia could pull herself together

Has it been confirmed anywhere that a couple will be leaving this Saturday? I thought I read in the description that "we find out who has reached the final" - no mention of an elimination. Does anyone know otherwise?

As for the order of the dance off, it doesn't make any sense to me. If it was based on who had the higher score to begin with then surely that should have been mentioned and the advantage acknowledged. And I bet Vincent would have been aware of the advantage of dancing first and would have insisted he didn't mind doing the two dances in quick succession.

Louisa went first earlier, so the logic is to let Emma go first in the dance-off.

Maybe all three couples will go through this week?
Last edited by Dancingles : 14-12-2006 at 23:21

Just to clarify the situation regarding the dance off last Saturday, I have just been speaking to a friend of mine who works on the Saturday show, and I in fact asked why Emma danced first. Apparently it was a purely practical decision based on where the couples were standing on the dance floor in the results sequence. To avoid couples walking in front of each other and having to cross on the dance floor, it was pre-determined that whichever couple in the dance off was furthest away from Bruce would dance first, in this case Emma. Had, for instance, Mark and Karen been dancing against Emma and Darren, Mark and Karen would have gone first, simply based on where they were standing. There is nothing more sinister to it than that. This would mean that should they ever decide on a dance off again, say in a future series, the same logic would apply, whoever the competitors were. I thought people might like to know the real reason the dancing order was changed.