Describing Torchwood as "inventive, intelligent and unpredictable"

-inventive, acting?

-intelligent, use of language and settings?

-unpredictable, levels of cringe?


if u cant tell im being sarcastic
ive stopped watching it

It's all the same company - just a logical move, as any further time on BBC3 will kill it.

Just hope they go back to the drawing board and start again - everything that's wrong with this show, and there's an awful lot wrong, needs to be addressed and corrected.

And promptly lost 60% of it's audience over the course of 3 weeks. High ratings for the first episodes proves nothing other than the marketing was a success. It's current ratings are on par with other first run shows on satellite such as "The Simpsons" or "Lost" and whilst 850,000 (and dropping) is decent ratings, its hardly enough to justify the high cost of production given the budget the channel has. Moving to BBC2 is the logical move as it's rating are enough to justify another series but not enough to justify a big percentage of BBC3's budget.
Last edited by Rooks : 12-12-2006 at 15:47

JB has hinted that Jack may be even darker when he returns to Who.

I would have thought he'll want some good answers as to why he was left behind.

The hand in the jar thing suggests a screw loose IMO.

Whilst they're at it they can close BBC3 down too.

Was I even addressing you in my statement?

COUGH

Hardly surprised by the news to be honest as they had invested too much in Torchwood for it not to go for a second run. It has some much potential which has yet to be properly realised on screen so I just hope they use this opportunity to look seriously at what worked and what didn't in series one to deliver the goods when it moves over to BBC2.

You said:


By saying "us all" it seemed you were trying to say that we'd only believed the series enjoyable because the ratings were good.

I was a bit miffed at the attempt to speak for everyone.

I would suggest that is a theory bordering on rubbish in this case, especially when it seems several BBC channels were vying for it.

Yeah, so you don't like its programming, that means that nobody else does (or can get the opportunity).

Odd decision though, I thought that BBC3 premieres were supposed to help the BBC in their quiest to improve Digital take up?

Still, glad to see it back.....if CJ is in DW then hopefully some overspill will turn up in season 2...
The one thing that needs improving IMO is strengthening the link between the two shows, cross overs of Aliens perhaps, or a big even in Who that has repercussions TW has to deal with (like the Cybermen incident keeps being mentioned in series 1, it had consequences TW had to scoop up...)

does anyone think some cast changes might benefit a second series?

I think it will need to pull its socks up more once on BBC2. It will need to perform somewhat better than the 1.x milllion it's getting at the moment. Hopefully the viewers will coalesce on the transmission dates.
Last edited by ember1 : 12-12-2006 at 17:31

Yes i do. I think in order to move it on, there will need to be changes to the cast. Who personally would you like to see the back of?!

Why would they do that? Think in context here Mossy, Torchwood had a very high profile launch and the ratings reflected that. Since then the ratings have dropped off considerable and the series has been receiving lukewarm to downright hostile reviews (did you ever here Charlie Brooker's review? Hilarious stuff). Torchwood was hot property for 3 weeks but now it's just another TV series. What would BBC1 or BBC2 see in the show that makes them so keen on getting it?

Incidentally, I'm not trying to be hostile towards Torchwood here, I'm just trying to ground people a little in reality.

Ok, I accept what you say in good faith - my comment was based on an earlier DS report:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds40659.html

That report (according to the South Wales Echo) says


Make of that what you will.

Fair enough, though that sounds like a "vested interest" report since its a report about a Welsh production in a Welsh newspaper. Local reports are always a little biased in reporting.

As for RTD pushing for a BBC1 slot.. BBC1 wouldn't touch Torchwood with a bargepole in it's current form. It would need to up it's production values, drop much of its sexual references and generally tighten up it's scripts for BBC1 to look at it.

personally they need to make changes to CJ..drop all that angst about his immortality..it's boring and is done with The Doctor in Who regarding destroying the Time Lords. I am hoping his encounter with The Doctor will sort him out and get Jack to the much more rounded character that we saw when he first appeared. all these brooding shots and naff dialogue does not serve his character well.

think they need to work on Gwen too otherwise time for a new member of Torchwood.

quite like the others but I think there will be casualties by the time the series ends.

You've been hostile from the very start.

You don't help your argument by using inaccurate figures. The latest BARB figures (week of 26/11) give an official audience of 2.29 million.

as you have been towards other FM's...........

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary...viewingsummary

Figures in 1000s

If it's to be premiered on BBC2 then BBC3 you'd expect a combined viewing of 3.5m-4.0m (not including the nth repeat on BBC3). My prediction is that more people will tune in for the BBC2 premiere than the BBC3 showing a few days later. How that total compares to this years' we'll wait and see. The thing is this: BBC2 can sometimes get better viewing figures than BBC1 - especially if the latter is showing a mediocre drama.
Last edited by ember1 : 12-12-2006 at 18:14

Mickey S?! Hostile?! You must have the wrong guy

It really would not bother me one way or another if any of the cast apart from JB did not make it to Series 2.

Even JB could be got rid off if his story has been concluded by then.

I'd actually think about adding more characters on at least a semi regular basis.

Maybe TW1 is reopened and someone from there turns up now and then.

Or the strange little man from TW2 asks them to come up and help with a case in Scotland.

Or show TW working with UNIT and introduce a UNIT liason Officer.

Or have Detective Jabe working with them now and again (or if Gwen dies at the end of Series 1 bring her in as a replacement).