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Old 02-01-2007, 21:05
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Originally Posted by iloveeastenders
If Corrie or EastEnders dont beat it before April then it will be the most watched show this year, as corrie normal get its highest rated episode in Feb or March and for the last 2 of 3 years EastEnders has had its first episode of the year to be its highest rated episode.
Next week Corrie should overtake Enders, what with the Charlie / Tracy showdown. Expect about 11.5million viewers.

Enders always takes over Corrie at Xmas and generally the first week of the New Year, but come next Monday, Corrie will be in poll position again and probs for the rest of the year!
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Old 02-01-2007, 21:29
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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123
But - Christmas period aside - it now routinely pulls an audience of less than 10m viewers, and this is in the depths of winter. Over recent weeks, it has been getting 7-8m viewers for some episodes, and these aren't even in the face of much competition from ITV1. Coronation St has now opened up a convincing lead, and still pulls >10m viewers for most if not all of its weekly episodes, sometimes 11-12m.

Unless the BBC can arrest the decline and make EastEnders a programme people want to watch again, I would be surprised if it has reached 10m viewers on more than a handful of occasions by the end of this year. And it will no doubt be trounced by 1 hr Emmerdales again this year. And probably sink to new ratings depths over the summer.

Whenever I see it, it is a bleak, humourless, miserable show. It is more realistic than Coro St, but at least that has some gritty northern humour and likeable characters, and I can see why people choose to spend half an hour a night with that.
Well, the average rating for Coronation Street 2006 up to w/e 10/12/2006 is 10.15 million, Eastenders is 9.16 million; a different of 0.99 million.

This is for the first showing only, the data came from BARB.
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:01
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Originally Posted by ronant
When did i say it was the clear winner? Firstly i would say that CS is rarely 1.5m ahead of EE on first showing, more like 1 million, but varies a lot.
Take Monday 4th December

EastEnders 9.8m
Coronaton Street 11.1m

Tuesday 5th
Eastenders 9.2m

Wednesday 6th
Coronation St 10.3m

Thursday
Eastenders 8.6m

Friday
Coronation St 10.3m

So somedays it 1.1m, somedays 2m. The average gap would be 1.5m

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Old 02-01-2007, 22:03
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
Take Monday 4th December

EastEnders 9.8m
Coronaton Street 11.1m

Tuesday 5th
Eastenders 9.2m

Wednesday 6th
Coronation St
Well look at iloveeastenders' stats taken from BARB. Corrie is on average 0.99m ahead on first showing, so i was 0.01m out!

So to be honest a bit of a pointless post you've just made - as what you said was disproved in the previous post!

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Old 02-01-2007, 22:14
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Originally Posted by ronant
Well look at iloveeastenders' stats taken from BARB. Corrie is on average 0.99m ahead on first showing, so i was 0.01m out!
That is true but if you take a close look at the rating, it is bad news for Eastenders.

Average rating for 1st quarter of 2006:

EastEnders
10.76 million

Coronation Street
11.24 million

Different
0.49 million

Average rating for 2nd quarter of 2006:

EastEnders
9.09 million

Coronation Street
9.57 million

Different
0.66 million

Average rating for 3rd quarter of 2006:

EastEnders
7.97 million

Coronation Street
9.26 million

Different
1.29 million

Average rating for 4th quarter of 2006 (up to 10/12/06 so will change):

EastEnders
9.03 million

Coronation Street
10.59 million

Different
1.56 million

BUT overall
there is a 0.99 million different for the whole year.

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Old 02-01-2007, 22:17
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Originally Posted by iloveeastenders
Average rating for 4th quarter of 2006 (up to 10/12/06 so will change):

Different
1.56 million
So the trend is widening in favour of CS. Do you have any reliable stats on the omnibus showing over the Q?
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:18
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Originally Posted by ronant

So to be honest a bit of a pointless post you've just made - as what you said was disproved in the previous post!
Not quite
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:21
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Originally Posted by GeorgeS
So the trend is widening in favour of CS. Do you have any reliable stats on the omnibus showing over the Q?
Well if the gap is 1.56m, i'm sure that EE still overtakes it after the omnibus/BBC3 repeat. Anyway this discussion should really be in the Soap Ratings Thread...
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:47
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I dont imagine the BBC are all that bothered about Coronation Street being a million or so ahead of EastEnders with regard to weekday episodes. At the end of the day EE gets high ratings by todays standards, provides a leg up to other shows, and helps bulk up primetime share. I would say its still doing an invaluable job even if its not quite the event it used to.
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Old 02-01-2007, 22:54
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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123
True, but it wasn't always thus - within recent memory, we got regular 30 mins episodes of each, and as recently as the 80s, if Christmas Day fell on a day a particular soap didn't transmit, it didn't get shown (eg, Christmas Day a Tuesday - no Corrie, etc)
That all changed on Christmas Day 1986 when Michael Grade put EastEnders on Christmas Day. It was the first time a soap had transmitted on Christmas Day and it coincided with Den serving Angie divorce papers. When 30 million people tuned in making it the most watched soap episode in British TV history even to this day ITV started putting their soaps on too.
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Old 08-01-2007, 23:21
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I see the first official Christmas ratings are now up on BARB, for the week ending 24/12.

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary...klyterrestrial

Strictly Come Dancing pulled 10.64m and 12.11m for its final - the first instalment is really quite staggering for a 5.40pm-6.55pm Saturday slot in this day and age. What would it have got in a primetime slot?

The results show came reasonably close to Coro St and EastEnders in the overall Top 10 for 2006.

EastEnders continued its poor pre-Christmas showing, failing to get to 10m all week and hitting a low of 8.3m, whilst Coro St powered ahead with 10m-11.4m audiences, dropping to 8.44m on Christmas Eve.

Richard Hammond's TV re-appearance helped Jonathan Ross pull a fantastic late night audience of 5.5m - I'd guess his highest ratings since Madonna a couple of years back.

Overall, not a brilliant week for BBC1 - but it was the most uninspiring pre-Christmas schedule I can ever remember. That said, they still pulled a 23.4% share against ITV1's pitiful 17.4%. BBCs1 & 2 managed to get a greater combined share than ITV1, CH4 and Five put together.

Good figures for Channel 4 - nice to see the Father Ted Christmas Special still pulling 2.2m on its 11th successive annual showing!
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Old 11-01-2007, 23:08
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I know Ronant has already put the Christmas week top programmes up in the general ratings thread, but for completeness, the official BARB top 30s are here:

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewingsummary...klyterrestrial

BARB evidently still looking for the Scottish viewers of Pirates of the Caribbean!

Nothing particularly surprising - I think we all knew what to expect. (I hadn't expected Last of the Summer Wine to sneak into the BBC1 top 30 though - sign of the times that you can get into the BBC1 top 30 shows in Christmas week with just 4.9m viewers - it would have been around 8m I guess 10 years ago)

Most surprising ratings of the week? A Christmas Day morning repeat of Friends, shown at 10.20am, pulling 1.26m and being the 28th most-watched CH4 programme that week! Presumably people got up, opened their presents, and switched on the box to see what was on - and found a Friends repeat the best on offer. Depressing on so many levels...
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Old 11-01-2007, 23:24
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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123
Most surprising ratings of the week? A Christmas Day morning repeat of Friends, shown at 10.20am, pulling 1.26m and being the 28th most-watched CH4 programme that week! Presumably people got up, opened their presents, and switched on the box to see what was on - and found a Friends repeat the best on offer. Depressing on so many levels...
Well this is what the competition got.... (These are overnights)

BBC1: Joy to the World 600,000 (7.0%)
BBC2: Castle in the Country 1.0m (10.8%)
ITV1: Christmas Cooks 1.3m (14.2%)
FIVE: Britain's Finest Gardens 300,000

Dont really know why im posting the ratings for shows at 10.30 on Christmas Day now but maybe someone finds them interesting
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Old 11-01-2007, 23:31
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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123
sign of the times that you can get into the BBC1 top 30 shows in Christmas week with just 4.9m viewers - it would have been around 8m I guess 10 years ago)
Oldest Christmas ratings on BARB's website are from 1998, when 7.35m was the 30th place, although that was only the week to 27th, as Christmas to New Year was split between two "ratings weeks".

Only 8 years ago, the BBC1 top 30 was:

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1 EASTENDERS (FRI/SUN) 22.14 15.04 7.10
2 EASTENDERS (TUE/SUN) 19.42 15.05 4.36
3 EASTENDERS (THU/SUN) 17.50 12.52 4.98
4 EASTENDERS (MON/SUN) 17.10 13.54 3.56
5 EASTENDERS (FRI/SUN) 16.15 10.81 5.34
6 MEN BEHAVING BADLY (FRI 2152) 14.91
7 MEN BEHAVING BADLY (SAT 2136) 13.40
8 THEY THINK ITS/OVER (FRI 2237) 12.31
9 CASUALTY (SAT 2004) 12.08
10 BEFORE THEY/FAMOUS (FRI 2101) 11.93
11 MRS BROWN (SUN 2041) 11.53
12 AIRPORT AT CHRISTMAS (TUE 2000) 11.12
13 THIS IS YOUR LIFE (SUN 2001) 10.66
14 NEIGHBOURS (MON 1340/1736) 10.40 3.50 6.90
15 FRENCH/SAUNDERS/SPCL (SAT 2218) 10.30
16 NEIGHBOURS (WED 1341/1737) 10.18 3.71 6.48
17 JONATHAN CREEK (THU 2130) 9.86
18 SPEED - FILM (TUE 2134) 9.80
19 NEIGHBOURS (TUE 1341/1737) 9.59 3.43 6.16
20 NEIGHBOURS (THU 1311/1717) 9.34 3.89 5.45
21 BABE (FILM) (FRI 1903) 9.26
22 AUNTIE'S NEW BLOOMER (FRI 1758) 9.08
23 ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (SUN 1816) 8.98
24 ANIMAL HOSPITAL (THU 2000) 8.83
25 BIRDS OF A FEATHER (THU 2030) 8.74
26 CHANGING ROOMS/XMAS (FRI 1833) 8.50
27 NAT LOTTERY DRAW (SAT 1944) 8.46
28 BRING/SUNSHINE/ERIC (WED 2134) 8.15
29 MYSTERIES/C.VORDERMN (TUE 2030) 7.85
30 SONGS OF PRAISE (SUN 1741) 7.35

Would be interesting to see the ratings from 10 years earlier. I have a vague recollection of BBC1 once getting 30 audiences over 10m in one week at Christmas, and I think ITV1 managed that sometimes during the rest of the year.

Amazing how audiences have declined in such a short period.
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Old 11-01-2007, 23:35
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Originally Posted by ronant
Dont really know why im posting the ratings for shows at 10.30 on Christmas Day now but maybe someone finds them interesting
I do! You're probably not surprised by that.

Probably wasn't that unusual an audience, it just stood out in the Ch4 top 30 - the only programme at that time of day that featured all week.
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Old 12-11-2011, 21:05
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I wonder what'll happen this xmas
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Old 13-11-2011, 13:36
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Oldest Christmas ratings on BARB's website are from 1998, when 7.35m was the 30th place, although that was only the week to 27th, as Christmas to New Year was split between two "ratings weeks".

Only 8 years ago, the BBC1 top 30 was:

millions
1 EASTENDERS (FRI/SUN) 22.14 15.04 7.10
2 EASTENDERS (TUE/SUN) 19.42 15.05 4.36
3 EASTENDERS (THU/SUN) 17.50 12.52 4.98
4 EASTENDERS (MON/SUN) 17.10 13.54 3.56
5 EASTENDERS (FRI/SUN) 16.15 10.81 5.34
6 MEN BEHAVING BADLY (FRI 2152) 14.91
7 MEN BEHAVING BADLY (SAT 2136) 13.40
8 THEY THINK ITS/OVER (FRI 2237) 12.31
9 CASUALTY (SAT 2004) 12.08
10 BEFORE THEY/FAMOUS (FRI 2101) 11.93
11 MRS BROWN (SUN 2041) 11.53
12 AIRPORT AT CHRISTMAS (TUE 2000) 11.12
13 THIS IS YOUR LIFE (SUN 2001) 10.66
14 NEIGHBOURS (MON 1340/1736) 10.40 3.50 6.90
15 FRENCH/SAUNDERS/SPCL (SAT 2218) 10.30
16 NEIGHBOURS (WED 1341/1737) 10.18 3.71 6.48
17 JONATHAN CREEK (THU 2130) 9.86
18 SPEED - FILM (TUE 2134) 9.80
19 NEIGHBOURS (TUE 1341/1737) 9.59 3.43 6.16
20 NEIGHBOURS (THU 1311/1717) 9.34 3.89 5.45
21 BABE (FILM) (FRI 1903) 9.26
22 AUNTIE'S NEW BLOOMER (FRI 1758) 9.08
23 ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (SUN 1816) 8.98
24 ANIMAL HOSPITAL (THU 2000) 8.83
25 BIRDS OF A FEATHER (THU 2030) 8.74
26 CHANGING ROOMS/XMAS (FRI 1833) 8.50
27 NAT LOTTERY DRAW (SAT 1944) 8.46
28 BRING/SUNSHINE/ERIC (WED 2134) 8.15
29 MYSTERIES/C.VORDERMN (TUE 2030) 7.85
30 SONGS OF PRAISE (SUN 1741) 7.35

Would be interesting to see the ratings from 10 years earlier. I have a vague recollection of BBC1 once getting 30 audiences over 10m in one week at Christmas, and I think ITV1 managed that sometimes during the rest of the year.

Amazing how audiences have declined in such a short period.
And yet we already had a very similar multi-channel TV system back then and ITV's advertising revenue had collapsed a few years earlier.

The change in ratings just happens to 'coincide' with Mark Thompson becoming Director General of the BBC. He's had a policy of 'event' programming- of having money and attention focused on a particular programme and then having schedule fillers put around it, rather than having a series of reasonably funded (depending upon their programme type) and promoted programmes in a 'menu', as was the case until then. It's been a disaster, in ratings terms, and for the audience, who have been starved of frontline entertainment, but Thompson seems to have been a master at managing low expectations.

If you take out the soap operas (including the hospital soaps)- the audience for which has dropped significantly since then (probably due to overexposure)- you'll see that the ratings are on a near par with today's top performers (eg comedy specials, Strictly Come Dancing, New Tricks, Doctor Who).

The audience is still there if the programmes are provided.
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Old 13-11-2011, 14:20
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Of course, the ratings listed are from 1998 and not 2003 as specified, but the point still holds true; the 'event' programming policy was developed from when the BBC's channels were increased in 1998, but it's only been official policy under the present DG.
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